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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:29:07 AM EDT
My daughter and I was chatting this morning. She was annoyed at a party last night. Two guys her age were hitting on her. One was invading her space, being very abrupt (drunkish) so she pushed him back and told him to chill, he called her a bitch and left. The second guy scoops in and tells her she's an 8 looks wise, but her personality makes her a 7. This was his opening line.
 I told her the two were trolling for sex and their words were their bait. Help a nice girl understand guys a little. BTW she told troll #2 to FO. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:30:36 AM EDT
[#1]
Isn't what number 2 said one of those stupid things mentioned on those dumbass pickup websites?
ETA: They were just looking to get laid. That's what parties are for these days anyway. If they get rejected enough they'll be forced to change their ways but I'm sure some dumbshit will fuck them anyway. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:30:51 AM EDT
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What... you have a 23 yo daughter/ , i thought you were 23
 
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:32:06 AM EDT
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Rejection makes some men hostile. It's as simple as that.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:32:17 AM EDT
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Men at that age are all about the ass. Most of them are not very smart about their approach either.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:32:18 AM EDT
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Alcohol does stupid things to men!
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:32:20 AM EDT
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Help a nice girl understand guys a little. We are pigs. We think only about sex and food (alcohol is included under food). Those two guys sounded like Grade A assholes and it sounds like she handled herself well. 
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:32:38 AM EDT
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Doesn't sound like she needs any help.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:32:40 AM EDT
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Men aren't her friends no mater what they say, they all want to fuck her so trolling for sex is a given.. If she keeps that in mind she'll be okay.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:32:54 AM EDT
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Rejection makes some men hostile. It's as simple as that. It's also a sign of immaturity. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:33:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rejection makes some immature men hostile. It's as simple as that. Enhanced it for you. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:33:31 AM EDT
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Rejection makes some men hostile. It's as simple as that. This. Good for her to tell them to FO |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:34:25 AM EDT
[#12]
Pics?
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:36:02 AM EDT
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My daughter and I was chatting this morning. She was annoyed at a party last night. Two guys her age were hitting on her. One was invading her space, being very abrupt (drunkish) so she pushed him back and told him to chill, he called her a bitch and left. The second guy scoops in and tells her she's an 8 looks wise, but her personality makes her a 7. This was his opening line.
I told her the two were trolling for sex and their words were their bait. Help a nice girl understand guys a little. BTW she told troll #2 to FO. Read a book called "The Gift of Fear". It is centric to your question and deals a lot with female/male interaction and the psychology behind verbal clues. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:36:48 AM EDT
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Pics? This right here is all you need to know.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:37:48 AM EDT
[#15]
Doesn't sound like she needs advice.
Lines are dumb, she should never give a guy the time of day that tries some stupid polished bullshit line, especially if it berates. Any guy that doesn't understand personal space or subtlety deserves a kick in the nuts. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:37:51 AM EDT
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Some girls make themselves unattractive for occasions like this.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:38:24 AM EDT
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Enhanced it for you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rejection makes some immature men hostile. It's as simple as that. Enhanced it for you. 
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:38:37 AM EDT
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23 y/o boys are just that, boys.
She is college aged and the vast majority of penis owners in that range see her as nothing more than a conquest. If she is looking for a hookup, life is good. If she is looking for a relationship based on love, trust, and mutual interests she is going to be disappointed greatly with her generation. How to deal with boys is pretty simple. Steer clear of douchey trendfags and look for someone with a plan. I would suggest that she date casually for the next 4-6 years and solidify what her wants and needs are. If she can make it that long without having a kid, the world of more mature guys who have cast off boyish things will be her oyster. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:38:48 AM EDT
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She's not gonna find "nice guys" at a house party. Drop her off at a D&D tournament and go home with the guy wearing the best stormtrooper costume.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:38:59 AM EDT
[#20]
Sounds like she's already got it figured out.
You should be way more concerned if she falls for these lines. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:39:24 AM EDT
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My daughter and I was chatting this morning. She was annoyed at a party last night. Two guys her age were hitting on her. One was invading her space, being very abrupt (drunkish) so she pushed him back and told him to chill, he called her a bitch and left. The second guy scoops in and tells her she's an 8 looks wise, but her personality makes her a 7. This was his opening line.
I told her the two were trolling for sex and their words were their bait. Help a nice girl understand guys a little. BTW she told troll #2 to FO. We are pigs. All we think about 24/7 is sex. We might be good to you and we might be amazing bfs, but we just need that daily fill and that's what keeps us going. If you are easy and no work we will surely fuck you, but after that you don't exist cuz you were just a bump in the road and have no respect for yourself or from most of us. The ONLY guys that are you "friends" are the ones that want to fuck or at the very least WOULD fuck you, but they don't have the balls to say it or go for it. That is subject to change depending on age and maturity, but at that age is a sure thing. I will say though that women in their late 20ies and early 30ies want and need sex as much as a 16 year old boy....at least from what I've experienced. "Enough" is not a word to them. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:40:50 AM EDT
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Help a nice girl understand guys a little. She wont find quality men at parties on Thursday nights. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:40:57 AM EDT
[#23]
Hell, I'd like to figure out women. She should have figured it out by now guys are easy, they want in her pants.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:40:57 AM EDT
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And this is why when I was in my late 30s (36-38) I was getting early to mid 20s hitting on me when I went out with friends...
I didn't act like a boor to them, was confident, and had my own money, etc. As an aside, I lived for a while post-divorce with a friend of mine who was in his early 30s, who had his running group friends over for parties all the time. I've always looked much younger than I am, so I fit in very easily. I'm remarried now, of course, but it was a fun couple of years. Fit runner women enjoy sacktime. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:41:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Read a book called "The Gift of Fear". It is centric to your question and deals a lot with female/male interaction and the psychology behind verbal clues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My daughter and I was chatting this morning. She was annoyed at a party last night. Two guys her age were hitting on her. One was invading her space, being very abrupt (drunkish) so she pushed him back and told him to chill, he called her a bitch and left. The second guy scoops in and tells her she's an 8 looks wise, but her personality makes her a 7. This was his opening line. I told her the two were trolling for sex and their words were their bait. Help a nice girl understand guys a little. BTW she told troll #2 to FO. Read a book called "The Gift of Fear". It is centric to your question and deals a lot with female/male interaction and the psychology behind verbal clues. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:41:12 AM EDT
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If she wants to narrow down the field a bit, tell her to look for a guy at least 25, college degree and employed.
For everyone else, knee to the groin. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:42:06 AM EDT
[#27]
Tell her to date on of her "friends". I am sure she has friend zoned a few great guys with bright futures that would treat her like a queen.
She is going to wade thru a lot of crap to find a nice guy at a party/bar. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:42:37 AM EDT
[#28]
Sounds like more drama than I care to ever get involved with.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:42:45 AM EDT
[#29]
Seems to me she's probably not dealing with men, she's dealing with prolonged adolescents. If so, her best COA is to try and be where they are not.
Parties were kinda fun when I was a kid/teen. When I started growing up, I discovered that I'd rather spend my time doing other things; and as I pursued those other things I found myself getting to meet and know better people of kindred spirit. My wife is a long-time friend who came from that pool of people. I could have saved myself a bit of grief if I'd grown up a little sooner. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:43:03 AM EDT
[#30]
first guy doesn't handle rejection well
2nd guy is doing the push pull thing both want in her pants |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:44:01 AM EDT
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My daughter and I was chatting this morning. She was annoyed at a party last night. Two guys her age were hitting on her. One was invading her space, being very abrupt (drunkish) so she pushed him back and told him to chill, he called her a bitch and left. The second guy scoops in and tells her she's an 8 looks wise, but her personality makes her a 7. This was his opening line.
I told her the two were trolling for sex and their words were their bait. Help a nice girl understand guys a little. BTW she told troll #2 to FO. Lots of dudes out there try that sort of pickup-artist bullshit. They try it because it works. If a dude goes to a party where there are 100 girls, he'll give all 100 of them a run. At least one of them is bound to be DTF, and he wants to find her. So he'll try the PUA bullshit until it works. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:44:07 AM EDT
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My daughter and I was chatting this morning. She was annoyed at a party last night. Two guys her age were hitting on her. One was invading her space, being very abrupt (drunkish) so she pushed him back and told him to chill, he called her a bitch and left. The second guy scoops in and tells her she's an 8 looks wise, but her personality makes her a 7. This was his opening line.
I told her the two were trolling for sex and their words were their bait. Help a nice girl understand guys a little. BTW she told troll #2 to FO. That's a complisult, a standard PUA gambit that I've seen advocated many times by the boys here. It's nothing new and your daughter handled it prefectly. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:44:33 AM EDT
[#33]
Sounds like she did OK.
She should never be ashamed to tell an immature idiot asshole that he's an immature idiot asshole. Those guys are a waste of her time (and probably dangerous too because they have no social boundaries). |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:44:43 AM EDT
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We are pigs. We think only about sex and food (alcohol is included under food). Those two guys sounded like Grade A assholes and it sounds like she handled herself well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Help a nice girl understand guys a little. We are pigs. We think only about sex and food (alcohol is included under food). Those two guys sounded like Grade A assholes and it sounds like she handled herself well. This. And pics of daughter, oink! |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:44:57 AM EDT
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Pics? Well??
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:45:11 AM EDT
[#36]
My advice? Tell her to avoid drunks in general, and especially drunk college boys.
Trust me. I'm an indian, I know drunks. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:45:34 AM EDT
[#37]
Sounds as though she handled it well. As a dad of two teen girls I fear what she experienced for my girls. Find a place that teaches Krav Maga and buy her some lessons, just in case her words don't get the point across.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:46:33 AM EDT
[#38]
House parties are a lousy place to find nice dudes.
And to be perfectly blunt, I never went to one looking for a "nice girl", either. She sounds like she handled herself well, though. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:46:48 AM EDT
[#39]
I pray and ask God every night before I go to bed that I don't have any daughters.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:47:32 AM EDT
[#40]
People are dicks, welcome to reality.
That said, nothing wrong with responsible casual sex. Get as much of it as you want while you still can, because you're not going to be pissing coca cola and shitting rainbows all your life. You got a very small window |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:47:33 AM EDT
[#41]
I'm 23.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:47:46 AM EDT
[#42]
Generaly speaking, she should be looking for a good father figure family type of man who can take care of himself, with no drnikin/drugs habits, who either works full time or studies full time. Anything less is an absolute waste of time for a woman.
Never lower the standards when it comes to that. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:48:01 AM EDT
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That's a complisult, a standard PUA gambit that I've seen advocated many times by the boys here. It's nothing new and your daughter handled it prefectly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My daughter and I was chatting this morning. She was annoyed at a party last night. Two guys her age were hitting on her. One was invading her space, being very abrupt (drunkish) so she pushed him back and told him to chill, he called her a bitch and left. The second guy scoops in and tells her she's an 8 looks wise, but her personality makes her a 7. This was his opening line.
I told her the two were trolling for sex and their words were their bait. Help a nice girl understand guys a little. BTW she told troll #2 to FO. That's a complisult, a standard PUA gambit that I've seen advocated many times by the boys here. It's nothing new and your daughter handled it prefectly. It plays on insecurites quite well...and will work sometimes....especially if done playfully. it's like saying "nice top, is that your mothers?" gets them off balance (usually with a smile) and the conversation just got sparked up |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:48:29 AM EDT
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Well?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pics? Well??
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:48:54 AM EDT
[#45]
Not all of us are like that.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:49:07 AM EDT
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House parties are a lousy place to find nice dudes. And to be perfectly blunt, I never went to one looking for a "nice girl", either. BINGO!!! It's hookup central. The dudes there are looking to score. Most of the girls could at least be talked into it, with how much talking it will take often being correlated strongly to how much exposed flesh they're sporting. Plus, there's alcohol. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:49:35 AM EDT
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Men at that age are all about the ass. Most of them are not very smart about their approach either. Don't rope all of us young guys in together some of us are very smart about our approach. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:49:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:50:05 AM EDT
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She's not gonna find "nice guys" at a house party. Drop her off at a D&D tournament and go home with the guy wearing the best stormtrooper costume. This. Or have her go to a 3 gun match. I am sure everyone there will act mature if a piece of ass is actually at a gun range We all have good people skills since we spend 23 hours in mom's basement online and only get out to shoot guns The answer is easy....have her hang out in a different area with a different crowd If she hangs out with investment bankers she may find her treatment and their response is a little different then under 25 boys in a house party Play stupid games win dumb prizes |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:51:21 AM EDT
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She did fine.
Get her some pepper spray for the really insistent ones. If Rape is on the menu, nothing else will do except 9mm to the face. That's how you deal with (rude) "men" However a real man will never give her problems like you describe. |
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