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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:42:46 AM EDT
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Why would this need a poll?
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:43:32 AM EDT
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If you are going to have a poll for this at least have maybe as an option!
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:45:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:46:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou should use a picture of Tina Fey for your avatar. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:47:01 AM EDT
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Why would this need a poll? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1647818_Extreme_Antisemitism_taking_hold_in_Europe_again__Jews_flee_to_Israel.html&page=4 One of our Swedish members is convinced that Sweden "borders" Russia because Kaliningrad is 200 miles across the Baltic from the nearest point in Sweden. I think this is even more preposterous than Palin claiming that Russia is in her backyard. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:47:59 AM EDT
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Why would this need a poll? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1647818_Extreme_Antisemitism_taking_hold_in_Europe_again__Jews_flee_to_Israel.html&page=4 One of our Swedish members is convinced that Sweden "borders" Russia because Kaliningrad is 200 miles across the Baltic from the nearest point in Sweden. I think this is even more preposterous than Palin claiming that Russian is in her backyard. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:48:20 AM EDT
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They share a Maritime border.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:48:54 AM EDT
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They share a Maritime border. dbrowne doesn't recognize maritime borders.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:49:24 AM EDT
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 Maps.....how the fuck do they work ? |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:50:11 AM EDT
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Why would this need a poll? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1647818_Extreme_Antisemitism_taking_hold_in_Europe_again__Jews_flee_to_Israel.html&page=4 One of our Swedish members is convinced that Sweden "borders" Russia because Kaliningrad is 200 miles across the Baltic from the nearest point in Sweden. I think this is even more preposterous than Palin claiming that Russian is in her backyard. http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo306/eviegray/windowlicker.jpg |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:50:26 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1647818_Extreme_Antisemitism_taking_hold_in_Europe_again__Jews_flee_to_Israel.html&page=4 One of our Swedish members is convinced that Sweden "borders" Russia because Kaliningrad is 200 miles across the Baltic from the nearest point in Sweden. I think this is even more preposterous than Palin claiming that Russia is in her backyard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would this need a poll? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1647818_Extreme_Antisemitism_taking_hold_in_Europe_again__Jews_flee_to_Israel.html&page=4 One of our Swedish members is convinced that Sweden "borders" Russia because Kaliningrad is 200 miles across the Baltic from the nearest point in Sweden. I think this is even more preposterous than Palin claiming that Russia is in her backyard. Oh. Well in the context of that discussion and in support of the point he (I think) was trying to make, it kind of does. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:50:40 AM EDT
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Why would this need a poll? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1647818_Extreme_Antisemitism_taking_hold_in_Europe_again__Jews_flee_to_Israel.html&page=4 One of our Swedish members is convinced that Sweden "borders" Russia because Kaliningrad is 200 miles across the Baltic from the nearest point in Sweden. I think this is even more preposterous than Palin claiming that Russian is in her backyard. http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo306/eviegray/windowlicker.jpg http://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c1c2fcc0065f972d85fe89621bdef9ad?convert_to_webp=true He's still better than your King. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:50:43 AM EDT
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Why would this need a poll? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1647818_Extreme_Antisemitism_taking_hold_in_Europe_again__Jews_flee_to_Israel.html&page=4 One of our Swedish members is convinced that Sweden "borders" Russia because Kaliningrad is 200 miles across the Baltic from the nearest point in Sweden. I think this is even more preposterous than Palin claiming that Russian is in her backyard. http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo306/eviegray/windowlicker.jpg http://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c1c2fcc0065f972d85fe89621bdef9ad?convert_to_webp=true Who is that? |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:51:05 AM EDT
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Please try to keep the personal attacks at the level of friendly bickering and good-natured ribbing.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:51:11 AM EDT
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He's still better than your King. No argument there. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:51:35 AM EDT
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Why would this need a poll? Because I suggested it, that's why. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:52:36 AM EDT
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Yes Martime border. So he's right.
But no on land border. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:53:31 AM EDT
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I don't know. I'm torn. I like both posters.
So they're both right. That's how it works, right? |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:53:34 AM EDT
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This is one of the most absurd arguments in the history of GD. Do we have any flat earthers here as well?
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:00:07 AM EDT
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So the US "borders" Russia too.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:01:54 AM EDT
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So the US "borders" Russia too. Yes. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:05:28 AM EDT
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This is one of the most absurd arguments in the history of GD. Do we have any flat earthers here as well? It's just a difference in perception - not some horrible example of lack of education or intelligence. When MOST people - especially in a huge land-mass like the U.S. - think of the word "border" they often think of a land border, and so the idea that France and Britain "border" each other is a bizarre concept to many, and Sweden/Russia seems even more far-fetched. It's also pretty "easy" for Americans to think about borders, because they border Canada and Mexico, and are across the water from Russia up in the frozen north somewhere. Boom. Super-simple and easy, so there's not really any need to think about a more nuanced definition. It doesn't mean they are crazy or stupid - it's just a different perception, or something that people haven't really thought carefully about. Think about it this way - this thread may help "correct" (from your perspective) how people think about borders. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:06:00 AM EDT
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This is one of the most absurd arguments in the history of GD. Do we have any flat earthers here as well? **cough** scoreboard **cough* |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:06:48 AM EDT
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It's just a difference in perception - not some horrible example of lack of education or intelligence. When MOST people - especially in a huge land-mass like the U.S. - think of the word "border" they often think of a land border, and so the idea that France and Britain "border" each other is a bizarre concept to many, and Sweden/Russia seems even more far-fetched. It's also pretty "easy" for Americans to think about borders, because they border Canada and Mexico, and are across the water from Russia up in the frozen north somewhere. Boom. Super-simple and easy, so there's not really any need to think about a more nuanced definition. It doesn't mean they are crazy or stupid - it's just a different perception, or something that people haven't really thought carefully about. Think about it this way - this thread may help "correct" (from your perspective) how people think about borders.
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This is one of the most absurd arguments in the history of GD. Do we have any flat earthers here as well? It's just a difference in perception - not some horrible example of lack of education or intelligence. When MOST people - especially in a huge land-mass like the U.S. - think of the word "border" they often think of a land border, and so the idea that France and Britain "border" each other is a bizarre concept to many, and Sweden/Russia seems even more far-fetched. It's also pretty "easy" for Americans to think about borders, because they border Canada and Mexico, and are across the water from Russia up in the frozen north somewhere. Boom. Super-simple and easy, so there's not really any need to think about a more nuanced definition. It doesn't mean they are crazy or stupid - it's just a different perception, or something that people haven't really thought carefully about. Think about it this way - this thread may help "correct" (from your perspective) how people think about borders.
But some here seem to persist in their ignorance. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:07:58 AM EDT
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Why would this need a poll? Because D Brown is trying to prove a point. Maritime Borders The answer for his benefit is YES For example, from a strategic standpoint the UK has long considered that it has a border with France even though it is separated by the English Channel - it is something we have fought over and have fortified for centuries. Having a border close to any potential enemy cannot be dismissed just because there is a short stretch of water between the two land masses. This has been the case since the dawn of maritime history. Some people don't have a lot of experience of the strategic recognition required where borders are separated by only a small strip of water. Many people see a border as only relating to directly adjoining land masses If you apply the logic that a border can only exists where there is direct land contact then potentially it could be claimed Kentucky has no borders with West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois or Missouri by virtue of the Ohio River and the Mississippi River.....which is clearly not the case. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:09:34 AM EDT
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It's just a difference in perception - not some horrible example of lack of education or intelligence. When MOST people - especially in a huge land-mass like the U.S. - think of the word "border" they often think of a land border, and so the idea that France and Britain "border" each other is a bizarre concept to many, and Sweden/Russia seems even more far-fetched. It's also pretty "easy" for Americans to think about borders, because they border Canada and Mexico, and are across the water from Russia up in the frozen north somewhere. Boom. Super-simple and easy, so there's not really any need to think about a more nuanced definition. It doesn't mean they are crazy or stupid - it's just a different perception, or something that people haven't really thought carefully about. Think about it this way - this thread may help "correct" (from your perspective) how people think about borders.
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This is one of the most absurd arguments in the history of GD. Do we have any flat earthers here as well? It's just a difference in perception - not some horrible example of lack of education or intelligence. When MOST people - especially in a huge land-mass like the U.S. - think of the word "border" they often think of a land border, and so the idea that France and Britain "border" each other is a bizarre concept to many, and Sweden/Russia seems even more far-fetched. It's also pretty "easy" for Americans to think about borders, because they border Canada and Mexico, and are across the water from Russia up in the frozen north somewhere. Boom. Super-simple and easy, so there's not really any need to think about a more nuanced definition. It doesn't mean they are crazy or stupid - it's just a different perception, or something that people haven't really thought carefully about. Think about it this way - this thread may help "correct" (from your perspective) how people think about borders.
Good post.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:10:10 AM EDT
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Because D Brown is trying to prove a point. Maritime Borders The answer for his benefit is YES For example, from a strategic standpoint the UK has long considered that it has a border with France even though it is separated by the English Channel - it is something we have fought over and have fortified for centuries. Having a border close to any potential enemy cannot be dismissed just because there is a short stretch of water between the two land masses. This has been the case since the dawn of maritime history. Some people don't have a lot of experience of the strategic recognition required where borders are separated by only a small strip of water. Many people see a border as only relating to directly adjoining land masses If you apply the logic that a border can only exists where there is direct land contact then potentially it could be claimed Kentucky has no borders with West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois or Missouri by virtue of the Ohio River and the Mississippi River.....which is clearly not the case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would this need a poll? Because D Brown is trying to prove a point. Maritime Borders The answer for his benefit is YES For example, from a strategic standpoint the UK has long considered that it has a border with France even though it is separated by the English Channel - it is something we have fought over and have fortified for centuries. Having a border close to any potential enemy cannot be dismissed just because there is a short stretch of water between the two land masses. This has been the case since the dawn of maritime history. Some people don't have a lot of experience of the strategic recognition required where borders are separated by only a small strip of water. Many people see a border as only relating to directly adjoining land masses If you apply the logic that a border can only exists where there is direct land contact then potentially it could be claimed Kentucky has no borders with West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois or Missouri by virtue of the Ohio River and the Mississippi River.....which is clearly not the case. Mere strategic importance and/or proximity does not equal "border." What you keep referring to as "maritime borders" aren't "borders." They're maritime boundaries established by treaties, generally for economic or resource management purposes. They're not "borders" in any meaningful sense of the word. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:10:58 AM EDT
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This is one of the most absurd arguments in the history of GD. Do we have any flat earthers here as well? It's just a difference in perception - not some horrible example of lack of education or intelligence. When MOST people - especially in a huge land-mass like the U.S. - think of the word "border" they often think of a land border, and so the idea that France and Britain "border" each other is a bizarre concept to many, and Sweden/Russia seems even more far-fetched. It's also pretty "easy" for Americans to think about borders, because they border Canada and Mexico, and are across the water from Russia up in the frozen north somewhere. Boom. Super-simple and easy, so there's not really any need to think about a more nuanced definition. It doesn't mean they are crazy or stupid - it's just a different perception, or something that people haven't really thought carefully about. Think about it this way - this thread may help "correct" (from your perspective) how people think about borders.
But some here seem to persist in their ignorance. 
I genuinely do not think of it as ignorance. I think that Denmark "borders" only one country - Germany. If we include maritime borders, THEN Denmark "borders" many countries, including Canada, Sweden, Norway, and likely Poland and Russia (because of the island of Bornholm). BOTH are legitimate ways of thinking about the concept of "borders" in my opinion. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:11:01 AM EDT
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Mere strategic importance and/or proximity does not equal "border." What you keep referring to as "maritime borders" aren't "borders." They're maritime boundaries established by treaties, generally for economic or resource management purposes. They're not "borders" in any meaningful sense of the word. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would this need a poll? Because D Brown is trying to prove a point. Maritime Borders The answer for his benefit is YES For example, from a strategic standpoint the UK has long considered that it has a border with France even though it is separated by the English Channel - it is something we have fought over and have fortified for centuries. Having a border close to any potential enemy cannot be dismissed just because there is a short stretch of water between the two land masses. This has been the case since the dawn of maritime history. Some people don't have a lot of experience of the strategic recognition required where borders are separated by only a small strip of water. Many people see a border as only relating to directly adjoining land masses If you apply the logic that a border can only exists where there is direct land contact then potentially it could be claimed Kentucky has no borders with West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois or Missouri by virtue of the Ohio River and the Mississippi River.....which is clearly not the case. Mere strategic importance and/or proximity does not equal "border." What you keep referring to as "maritime borders" aren't "borders." They're maritime boundaries established by treaties, generally for economic or resource management purposes. They're not "borders" in any meaningful sense of the word. Perhaps you need to consult a dictionary? 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:11:39 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=66661 I genuinely do not think of it as ignorance. I think that Denmark "borders" only one country - Germany. If we include maritime borders, THEN Denmark "borders" many countries, including Canada, Sweden, Norway, and likely Poland and Russia (because of the island of Bornholm). BOTH are legitimate ways of thinking about the concept of "borders" in my opinion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is one of the most absurd arguments in the history of GD. Do we have any flat earthers here as well? It's just a difference in perception - not some horrible example of lack of education or intelligence. When MOST people - especially in a huge land-mass like the U.S. - think of the word "border" they often think of a land border, and so the idea that France and Britain "border" each other is a bizarre concept to many, and Sweden/Russia seems even more far-fetched. It's also pretty "easy" for Americans to think about borders, because they border Canada and Mexico, and are across the water from Russia up in the frozen north somewhere. Boom. Super-simple and easy, so there's not really any need to think about a more nuanced definition. It doesn't mean they are crazy or stupid - it's just a different perception, or something that people haven't really thought carefully about. Think about it this way - this thread may help "correct" (from your perspective) how people think about borders.
But some here seem to persist in their ignorance. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=66661 I genuinely do not think of it as ignorance. I think that Denmark "borders" only one country - Germany. If we include maritime borders, THEN Denmark "borders" many countries, including Canada, Sweden, Norway, and likely Poland and Russia (because of the island of Bornholm). BOTH are legitimate ways of thinking about the concept of "borders" in my opinion. Only one is legally legitimate. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:12:29 AM EDT
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Mere strategic importance and/or proximity does not equal "border." What you keep referring to as "maritime borders" aren't "borders." They're maritime boundaries established by treaties, generally for economic or resource management purposes. They're not "borders" in any meaningful sense of the word. Perhaps you need to consult a dictionary? Survey says, by a steady 2:1 margin, that YOU need to consult a dictionary. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:13:02 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1647818_Extreme_Antisemitism_taking_hold_in_Europe_again__Jews_flee_to_Israel.html&page=4 One of our Swedish members is convinced that Sweden "borders" Russia because Kaliningrad is 200 miles across the Baltic from the nearest point in Sweden. I think this is even more preposterous than Palin claiming that Russia is in her backyard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would this need a poll? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1647818_Extreme_Antisemitism_taking_hold_in_Europe_again__Jews_flee_to_Israel.html&page=4 One of our Swedish members is convinced that Sweden "borders" Russia because Kaliningrad is 200 miles across the Baltic from the nearest point in Sweden. I think this is even more preposterous than Palin claiming that Russia is in her backyard. Do Tina Fey and Sarah Palin share a border? |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:13:25 AM EDT
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Mere strategic importance and/or proximity does not equal "border." What you keep referring to as "maritime borders" aren't "borders." They're maritime boundaries established by treaties, generally for economic or resource management purposes. They're not "borders" in any meaningful sense of the word. Perhaps you need to consult a dictionary? Survey says, by a steady 2:1 margin, that YOU need to consult a dictionary. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/border |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:13:27 AM EDT
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This is one of the most absurd arguments in the history of GD. Do we have any flat earthers here as well? It's just a difference in perception - not some horrible example of lack of education or intelligence. When MOST people - especially in a huge land-mass like the U.S. - think of the word "border" they often think of a land border, and so the idea that France and Britain "border" each other is a bizarre concept to many, and Sweden/Russia seems even more far-fetched. It's also pretty "easy" for Americans to think about borders, because they border Canada and Mexico, and are across the water from Russia up in the frozen north somewhere. Boom. Super-simple and easy, so there's not really any need to think about a more nuanced definition. It doesn't mean they are crazy or stupid - it's just a different perception, or something that people haven't really thought carefully about. Think about it this way - this thread may help "correct" (from your perspective) how people think about borders.
But some here seem to persist in their ignorance. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=66661 I genuinely do not think of it as ignorance. I think that Denmark "borders" only one country - Germany. If we include maritime borders, THEN Denmark "borders" many countries, including Canada, Sweden, Norway, and likely Poland and Russia (because of the island of Bornholm). BOTH are legitimate ways of thinking about the concept of "borders" in my opinion. Only one is legally legitimate. Is my 1875 Martini-Henry (that I will be shooting tomorrow) a firearm? Legally - where I live - the answer is NO. Yet, I believe it is a firearm.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:14:16 AM EDT
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In... because I think a simple geography question just might turn into a 30+ page soup sandwich.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:15:00 AM EDT
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Why would this need a poll? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1647818_Extreme_Antisemitism_taking_hold_in_Europe_again__Jews_flee_to_Israel.html&page=4 One of our Swedish members is convinced that Sweden "borders" Russia because Kaliningrad is 200 miles across the Baltic from the nearest point in Sweden. I think this is even more preposterous than Palin claiming that Russia is in her backyard. Oh. Well in the context of that discussion and in support of the point he (I think) was trying to make, it kind of does. I gotta say yes. Just like Japan borders China. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:15:06 AM EDT
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In... because I think a simple geography question just might turn into a 30+ page soup sandwich. This thread is great.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:15:08 AM EDT
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Is my 1875 Martini-Henry (that I will be shooting tomorrow) a firearm? Legally - where I live - the answer is NO. Yet, I believe it is a firearm. In most of the World, and by historical precedent, it is. Just like maritime borders exist. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:15:15 AM EDT
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Maritime borders do not count.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:15:23 AM EDT
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When Putin takes Finland back into the loving arms of Mother Russia, Sweden will have a land border too.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:15:55 AM EDT
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Does the U.S. border Cuba?
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:16:08 AM EDT
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Please try to keep the personal attacks at the level of friendly bickering and good-natured ribbing. Are you really from Canada? |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:16:13 AM EDT
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Maritime borders do not count. You should call the US State Department. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:16:18 AM EDT
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This is one of the most absurd arguments in the history of GD. Do we have any flat earthers here as well? It's just a difference in perception - not some horrible example of lack of education or intelligence. When MOST people - especially in a huge land-mass like the U.S. - think of the word "border" they often think of a land border, and so the idea that France and Britain "border" each other is a bizarre concept to many, and Sweden/Russia seems even more far-fetched. It's also pretty "easy" for Americans to think about borders, because they border Canada and Mexico, and are across the water from Russia up in the frozen north somewhere. Boom. Super-simple and easy, so there's not really any need to think about a more nuanced definition. It doesn't mean they are crazy or stupid - it's just a different perception, or something that people haven't really thought carefully about. Think about it this way - this thread may help "correct" (from your perspective) how people think about borders.
Good post. Explained that way, I'm in agreement with you fellers. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:16:23 AM EDT
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Does the U.S. border Cuba? Yes. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:17:05 AM EDT
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Does the U.S. border Cuba? Yes. Does the U.S. border Japan? |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:17:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:20:11 AM EDT
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Does the U.S. border Cuba? Yes. Does the U.S. border Japan? No, the distance is too great. So how close is close enough? See, this is the problem with your theory that "maritime boundaries" are the same thing as "borders." Maritime boundaries are man-made, legal constructs that vary in their extent from 3 miles or less out to 200 or more miles, depending on their purposes and the agreement of the countries. Trying to use them as a definition of "border" is a complete clusterfuck. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:21:50 AM EDT
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Does The Pope shit in the woods ?
Poll Inbound |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:22:17 AM EDT
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Mere strategic importance and/or proximity does not equal "border." What you keep referring to as "maritime borders" aren't "borders." They're maritime boundaries established by treaties, generally for economic or resource management purposes. They're not "borders" in any meaningful sense of the word. Perhaps you need to consult a dictionary? Survey says, by a steady 2:1 margin, that YOU need to consult a dictionary. Surveys means shit. Facts be facts my friend. 
This was the premise of the original thread where "surveys showed" not a great deal of truth. If I did a survey on ARFCOM on whether people thought Obama was bad for America I'm pretty sure that I would get a 100% agreement that he is a bloody nightmare. If I then turned around and said 100% of Americans think that Obama is bad for America then I would be factually incorrect.
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