Breaking: Concern Kalshnikov added to Sanctions List (Updated 7/17)

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Posted: 7/16/2014 1:25:28 PM EDT

Well guys, it has happened...

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20140716.aspx

http://modernrifleman.net/2014/07/16/concern-kalashnikov-izhmash-added-to-russian-sanctions-list/

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:26:23 PM EDT

[#1]

We knew it was coming.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:26:39 PM EDT

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Well guys, it has happened...

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20140716.aspx

http://modernrifleman.net/2014/07/16/concern-kalashnikov-izhmash-added-to-russian-sanctions-list/

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Glad I bought those two Veprs in the last few months....yeah, they're Molot, but same thing is going to happen.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:27:26 PM EDT

[#3]

NECKBEARD time at Atlantic Firearms!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:31:31 PM EDT

[#4]

Doing everything they can to ban any imports possible,

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:34:26 PM EDT

[#5]

I have my Saiga AK but that still sucks

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:34:33 PM EDT

[#6]

Those motherfuckers....

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:34:57 PM EDT

[#7]

I'm going to buy an AK this weekend.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:36:43 PM EDT

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KALASHNIKOV CONCERN (a.k.a. CONCERN KALASHNIKOV; a.k.a. IZHEVSKIY
MASHINOSTROITEL'NYI ZAVOD OAO; f.k.a. IZHMASH R&D CENTER; f.k.a. JSC
NPO IZHMASH; f.k.a. NPO IZHMASH OAO; a.k.a. OJSC CONCERN KALASHNIKOV;
f.k.a. OJSC IZHMASH; f.k.a. SCIENTIFIC PRODUCTION ASSOCIATION IZHMASH
JOINT STOCK COMPANY), 3, Derjabin Pr., Izhevsk, Udmurt Republic 426006,
Russia; Registration ID 1111832003018 [UKRAINE2].

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:36:59 PM EDT

[#9]

Woo hoo! Anyone who wants this- 10 bajillion dollars!

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:37:09 PM EDT

[#10]

PEAK VERP's!!!11

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:38:12 PM EDT

[#11]

I'm never gonna get that Krink or classic AK, am I?

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:39:58 PM EDT

[#12]

Guessing I won't buy a Saiga anytime soon...or ever now.

Thanks Obama.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:39:58 PM EDT

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It ok, just pick one up via mexico.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:41:44 PM EDT

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FBHO

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:41:54 PM EDT

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I'm fucked if they go after Russian ammo. The only reason I can afford to shoot is because of crappy steel case Wolf.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:42:10 PM EDT

[#16]

I'm not an AK guy but I believe everyone should have one.

What does this mean for my WASR?

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:43:21 PM EDT

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It is probably worth a lot more as people will be going nuts looking for AKs.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:43:49 PM EDT

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All of a sudden, my POS Romanian I picked up for $300 back in 08 that I never shoot, seems like a steal.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:43:57 PM EDT

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Its probably going to happen.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:44:10 PM EDT

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Wolf doesn't get all of their ammo from Russia. When the sanctions were announced Wolf said that in the event of an import ban from Russia they would step up manufacture in other countries.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:45:01 PM EDT

[#21]

My dream of owning a square back 16" 54R Vepr is dead.

edit: Nevermind. Different company.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:46:19 PM EDT

[#22]

Well I guess that means that my SGL31-95 just went way up in value.

Fuck Obama. Hopefully the next go around we'll get a president in office who will ease up on import restrictions on firearms. I remember that Newt Gingrich's platform stated that if it was legal to manufacture in the US, he wanted to make it legal to import.......

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:53:01 PM EDT

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Guess my $200 still in the box straight cut MAK 90 just went up in value.

Seriously though, I'm betting you are going to see a whole lot of other gun stuff kept out of the US in the next few months.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:54:39 PM EDT

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I'm never gonna get that Krink or classic AK, am I?

It ok, just pick one up via mexico.

No joke.

I could have done it, too.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:56:54 PM EDT

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Im glad I never fired mine.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:57:33 PM EDT

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In related news.. Walmart's sale of garbage cans have plummeted.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:58:00 PM EDT

[#27]

Just go to Eastern Ukraine,Russian Kalashnikovs grow on trees there.

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:58:05 PM EDT

[#28]

So trashcan sales are gonna go down?

Posted: 7/16/2014 1:59:48 PM EDT

[#29]

NOOOOOOOOO! i still haven't started my AK collection..

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:01:21 PM EDT

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I would consider it a certainty that it will happen. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:01:53 PM EDT

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I'm surprised, was kind of expecting the AK to be added to the US Flag soon.

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:02:54 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/16/2014 2:03:00 PM EDT

[#33]

I've been going to buy one for years, never got around to it. Retarded me

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:04:59 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/16/2014 2:08:00 PM EDT

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374. If I own a Kalashnikov product, is that product blocked by sanctions? Am I able to resell a Kalashnikov product at a gun show or other secondary market?

If a U.S. person is in possession of a Kalashnikov Concern product that was bought and fully paid for prior to the date of designation (i.e., no payment remains due to Kalashnikov Concern), then that product is not blocked and OFAC sanctions would not prohibit the U.S. person from keeping or selling the product in the secondary market, so long as Kalashnikov Concern has no interest in the transaction. New transactions by U.S. persons with Kalashnikov Concern are prohibited, however, and any property in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest is blocked pursuant to OFAC’s designation of Kalashnikov Concern on July 16, 2014. If a U.S. person has an inventory of Kalashnikov Concern products in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest (for example, the products are not fully paid for or are being sold on consignment), we advise that U.S. person to contact OFAC for further guidance on handling of the inventory. [7-16-2014]

375. If I have Kalashnikov products in my inventory, can I sell them?

If a U.S. person has an inventory of Kalashnikov Concern products in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest (for example, the products are not fully paid for or are being sold on consignment), we advise that U.S. person to contact OFAC for further guidance on handling of the inventory. [7-16-2014]

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Posted: 7/16/2014 2:08:33 PM EDT

[#36]

Fine with me. Buy American!

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:09:17 PM EDT

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Bless your heart...

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:13:32 PM EDT

[#38]

Now watch Arsenal jack up their prices.

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:15:07 PM EDT

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374. If I own a Kalashnikov product, is that product blocked by sanctions? Am I able to resell a Kalashnikov product at a gun show or other secondary market?

If a U.S. person is in possession of a Kalashnikov Concern product that was bought and fully paid for prior to the date of designation (i.e., no payment remains due to Kalashnikov Concern), then that product is not blocked and OFAC sanctions would not prohibit the U.S. person from keeping or selling the product in the secondary market, so long as Kalashnikov Concern has no interest in the transaction. New transactions by U.S. persons with Kalashnikov Concern are prohibited, however, and any property in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest is blocked pursuant to OFAC’s designation of Kalashnikov Concern on July 16, 2014. If a U.S. person has an inventory of Kalashnikov Concern products in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest (for example, the products are not fully paid for or are being sold on consignment), we advise that U.S. person to contact OFAC for further guidance on handling of the inventory. [7-16-2014]

375. If I have Kalashnikov products in my inventory, can I sell them?

If a U.S. person has an inventory of Kalashnikov Concern products in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest (for example, the products are not fully paid for or are being sold on consignment), we advise that U.S. person to contact OFAC for further guidance on handling of the inventory. [7-16-2014]

So basically, gun dealers should be fine, but distributors might be fucked.

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:15:26 PM EDT

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The CA 39 has had mixed reviews. Some people love them some not so much. They do have chrome lined barrels now and milled receivers and you can get them with wood furniture, and you can get US made 7.62x39 ammo now too but it all costs a lot more.

I am just glad I got mine from IZHMASH already.

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:16:17 PM EDT

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LOL. While I normally share your sentiment about buying US made products, the issue is this administration's underhanded attempt at ass-fucking gun owners which just-so-happens to spill poopy corn-laden semen all over American manufacturers in the process.

And fuck freedom right?

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:16:57 PM EDT

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Who do they buy their parts from?

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:17:02 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/16/2014 2:18:30 PM EDT

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There's always one guy...

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:20:00 PM EDT

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It was only a matter of when, not if this would happen.

I am just waiting IWI to be on a sanctions list for Israel bombing Gaza, it's coming!

Posted: 7/16/2014 2:20:35 PM EDT

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This actually will hurt the Kalashnikov holdings too. Sales to the US market is a good sized chunk of their business now. They sell very few AK 47's anymore in bulk to any military's. They pretty much get some police contracts and whatnot inside Russia and some other places, but they do a decent clip of their overall sales now to the civilian market here.