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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:09:32 PM EDT
Link: http://runnersbreakfast.com/2014/04/24/boston-marathoners-discover-bib-fraud-in-race-photos/ Bunch of no honor/ no integrity cheats. |
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I don't get it, why would someone go through the trouble and why does anyone really care? Its not like any of them won.
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Is the BM not open to anyone who wants to run it? You have to qualify for it. Its THE marathon to run according to my girlfriend. She hopes to qualify one day. She's running her first this year. That's pretty fucking low. |
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Pardon my ignorance. Why would you need to make a fake bib? Are there only a certain amount of spots available or something?
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I don't get it, why would someone go through the trouble and why does anyone really care? Its not like any of them won. View Quote Too many people messes with your time. And getting to run it is a big deal, so people actually did the work to qualify really hate cheaters. Think of it like how legal immigrants view illegal immigrants. |
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They got their awesome new facebook profile picture and that is what is important here. Let them brag about being super athletes. Why does it matter? (Assuming that they didn't claim to have won or receive a prize.)
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Only a certain amount of spots open, biggest marathon in country, highly desire able to many runners just to run in the race.
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For now, she says she wants to find out who they are,and hopefully get them banned from future races. View Quote I don't think that's going to stop them |
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Quoted: Running the Boston Marathon is pretty much the pinnacle for serious runners. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I don't get it, why would someone go through the trouble and why does anyone really care? Its not like any of them won. Running the Boston Marathon is pretty much the pinnacle for serious runners. |
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I don't really get the outrage. What does it mess up? You might see a different person in the online photos when you search by bib number, but it won't mess up the times or race stats because it should all be done by chip timing.
It's not a good thing to do by any means, but what's the real problem here, I'm genuinely curious? |
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Is the BM not open to anyone who wants to run it? View Quote No. The BM is an elite running event... just qualifying is an achievement. ETA: at my age, I'd have to run a major marathon at a roughly 7-min-mile split (through the whole course) to qualify. That's fast as sh*t... that would be 96th percentile on the Army PFT 2-mile run... but for a 26-mile distance.) I will NEVER qualify for the BM... and I'm a life-long runner. |
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For now, she says she wants to find out who they are,and hopefully get them banned from future races. I don't think that's going to stop them They will make it a felony. That'll fix 'em! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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For now, she says she wants to find out who they are,and hopefully get them banned from future races. I don't think that's going to stop them They don't seem to be rule followers. |
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Aren't race times recorded by RFID chip? Even if there are imposters, only the real person with the chip will be on record.
Imagine running into one of these folks with the same number as you… awkward.
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I don't really get the outrage. What does it mess up? You might see a different person in the online photos when you search by bib number, but it won't mess up the times or race stats because it should all be done by chip timing. It's not a good thing to do by any means, but what's the real problem here, I'm genuinely curious? View Quote Nothing you are saying is wrong...but it's more about the principle of it. Look at it like this...imagine there was a shooting competition that was only able to be attended if you qualified through other competitions to get there...and this competition was the one that all the best shooters in the world went to. Jerry Miculek and the like...just being able to go and shoot with them is the dream of everybody who ever shoots competition...to be able to be on that stage, and to be good enough to be there takes immense dedication and training...and you finally made it. You years of hard work paid off...then some dude throws on a smith and Wesson jersey, prints out a fake name tag, and goes and does it by cheating the system. That's pretty much what happened. Maybe not the best comparison as that would be almost impossible to get away with, but it is the best example I can think of that people on a shooting forum might be able to empathize with. |
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Bandits happen in practically every marathon. I understand why organizers/participants want to curb the activity but the moral outrage is a bit much.
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I JUST WENT TO GO WIPE MY ASS TO MAKE SURE I DIDNT GIVE A SHIT. TOILET PAPER IS CLEAN, I WAS RIGHT NO SHITS
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Nothing you are saying is wrong...but it's more about the principle of it. Look at it like this...imagine there was a shooting competition that was only able to be attended if you qualified through other competitions to get there...and this competition was the one that all the best shooters in the world went to. Jerry Miculek and the like...just being able to go and shoot with them is the dream of everybody who ever shoots competition...to be able to be on that stage, and to be good enough to be there takes immense dedication and training...and you finally made it. You years of hard work paid off...then some dude throws on a smith and Wesson jersey, prints out a fake name tag, and goes and does it by cheating the system. That's pretty much what happened. Maybe not the best comparison as that would be almost impossible to get away with, but it is the best example I can think of that people on a shooting forum might be able to empathize with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't really get the outrage. What does it mess up? You might see a different person in the online photos when you search by bib number, but it won't mess up the times or race stats because it should all be done by chip timing. It's not a good thing to do by any means, but what's the real problem here, I'm genuinely curious? Nothing you are saying is wrong...but it's more about the principle of it. Look at it like this...imagine there was a shooting competition that was only able to be attended if you qualified through other competitions to get there...and this competition was the one that all the best shooters in the world went to. Jerry Miculek and the like...just being able to go and shoot with them is the dream of everybody who ever shoots competition...to be able to be on that stage, and to be good enough to be there takes immense dedication and training...and you finally made it. You years of hard work paid off...then some dude throws on a smith and Wesson jersey, prints out a fake name tag, and goes and does it by cheating the system. That's pretty much what happened. Maybe not the best comparison as that would be almost impossible to get away with, but it is the best example I can think of that people on a shooting forum might be able to empathize with. Sure if 15,000 people were in the competition. |
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No. The BM is an elite running event... just qualifying is an achievement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is the BM not open to anyone who wants to run it? No. The BM is an elite running event... just qualifying is an achievement. 36,000 participated. About 9,000 of them did it for charity. Not all are "elite." |
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Too many people messes with your time. And getting to run it is a big deal, so people actually did the work to qualify really hate cheaters. Think of it like how legal immigrants view illegal immigrants. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't get it, why would someone go through the trouble and why does anyone really care? Its not like any of them won. Too many people messes with your time. And getting to run it is a big deal, so people actually did the work to qualify really hate cheaters. Think of it like how legal immigrants view illegal immigrants. People run bandit all the time. Who gives a fuck? They don't get a swag bag...they just run the course. They have health issues and they'll pay the same price for the ambulance ride as the guy who spent $100+ to get a free tech shirt and piece of paper with a number on it. The II analogy doesn't work. |
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36,000 participated. About 9,000 of them did it for charity. Not all are "elite." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is the BM not open to anyone who wants to run it? No. The BM is an elite running event... just qualifying is an achievement. 36,000 participated. About 9,000 of them did it for charity. Not all are "elite." How old are you? At my age, I'd have to run a qualifying marathon in the three-hour range in order to qualify for the BM on time. I'm not talking about people running for charity, or with some other admission criteria... I'm talking about simply making it on your times. The BM is not an entry-level running event. Trust me on this one. |
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Well, bibs for Marathons do get bought and sold... I would not be surprised at all if there was an individual(s) out there making counterfeit bibs, putting up on craigslist they can't make it to the race and then selling "their" bib. Unsuspecting person buys it, and then there they are.
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36,000 participated. About 9,000 of them did it for charity. Not all are "elite." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is the BM not open to anyone who wants to run it? No. The BM is an elite running event... just qualifying is an achievement. 36,000 participated. About 9,000 of them did it for charity. Not all are "elite." http://www.marathonguide.com/news/regfeatures/BostonQualifying.cfm I am a pretty avid runner, and I would never even attempt to qualify for it. |
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I had to wait an extra cycle at a red light today because a guy wasn't paying attention. I care 1,000 times more about that than I do about this.
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Too many people messes with your time. And getting to run it is a big deal, so people actually did the work to qualify really hate cheaters. Think of it like how legal immigrants view illegal immigrants. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't get it, why would someone go through the trouble and why does anyone really care? Its not like any of them won. Too many people messes with your time. And getting to run it is a big deal, so people actually did the work to qualify really hate cheaters. Think of it like how legal immigrants view illegal immigrants. I don't see legal immigrants doing much about the illegal ones. Just like I don't see the "good muslims" doing much about the terrorist muslims. |
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I don't get it, why would someone go through the trouble and why does anyone really care? Its not like any of them won. View Quote Why would you care if someone put on a military uniform, a few ribbons, and maybe a patch or two and claimed they served? Just because it isn't you're cup of tea doesn't make the act of being a dirtbag fraud any less. |
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Its THE marathon to run according to my girlfriend. She hopes to qualify one day. She's running her first this year. That's pretty fucking low. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is the BM not open to anyone who wants to run it? You have to qualify for it. Its THE marathon to run according to my girlfriend. She hopes to qualify one day. She's running her first this year. That's pretty fucking low. Unless she can make the PERFECT sammich, fold shirts in 3 seconds, and change a diaper and send an email at the same time, she should focus her time elsewhere! |
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BM has always had a bunch of bandits. The course runs through two or three college campuses. Everyone has the day off for Patriots day, so some folks just get caught up and jump in. It's always been that way. The first question I got from the locals was "Did you finish?" I was like yeah, why would I not finish? A lot of them just think it's cool to run some of it and high five along the course route. I was told that estimates as high as 20K bandits run a portion or all of it. Printing your own bib is just wrong, The weren't wearing a chip so they didn't get an official time, but it screws up your photo search and what not.
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