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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:03:22 AM EDT
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Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:05:19 AM EDT
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at 53 I doubt he was outside playing airsoft, so i'm going to go with suicide by cop.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:05:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:06:23 AM EDT
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Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot. Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:07:48 AM EDT
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If it looked real, good shoot. Since I have an airsoft gun that looks exactly like my glock, I'm going with it looked real and good shoot.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:08:55 AM EDT
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Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot. Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. How is it illegal? You can't really charge a dead person. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:11:34 AM EDT
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How is it illegal? You can't really charge a dead person. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot. Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. How is it illegal? You can't really charge a dead person. Maybe he's talking religiously? I dunno |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:11:46 AM EDT
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How is it illegal? You can't really charge a dead person. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot. Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. How is it illegal? You can't really charge a dead person. I'm sure the federal government would try to charge a dead person.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:13:42 AM EDT
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What a dumbass, good shoot.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:14:51 AM EDT
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JBT's should have known it was a fake gun.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:15:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:15:36 AM EDT
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Sad story for the guy that decided he wanted to die and for the officers involved.
Suicide is a bad enough, forcing someone else to carry it out goes beyond selfish. (I know, if someone is at that point they don't care about how it will effect others, regardless another reminder of what LEO's face on a daily basis.) |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:15:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure the federal government would try to charge a dead person. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot. Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. How is it illegal? You can't really charge a dead person. I'm sure the federal government would try to charge a dead person. The IRS will just fine the surviving family members.  |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:16:42 AM EDT
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Maybe he was trying to gain entrance to Valhalla.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:18:40 AM EDT
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Good shoot
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:19:02 AM EDT
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Selfish bastard. Hate it for the cop(s).
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:20:13 AM EDT
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CMP should have given him his garand!
ETA: sucks for the cops. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:28:42 AM EDT
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JBT's should have known it was a fake gun. My sarcasm meter must need calibration this week. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:29:19 AM EDT
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My sarcasm meter must need calibration this week. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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JBT's should have known it was a fake gun. My sarcasm meter must need calibration this week. Take it in for service. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:31:55 AM EDT
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JBT's should have known it was a fake gun. Should have shot it out of his hand. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:32:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:34:06 AM EDT
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I feel bad for cops who have to shoot people who do shit like that.
Good shoot though.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:34:33 AM EDT
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I'm sure the federal government would try to charge a dead person. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot. Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. How is it illegal? You can't really charge a dead person. I'm sure the federal government would try to charge a dead person. Nah - they'll just give him a new voter ID. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:35:20 AM EDT
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Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot. Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. Attempted suicide is illegal in most states, nothing illegal about suicide, who are you going to charge if successful? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:15:50 AM EDT
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If it looked real, good shoot. Since I have an airsoft gun that looks exactly like my glock, I'm going with it looked real and good shoot. How does one really define "looked real"? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:18:51 AM EDT
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As a poster here in GD once told me, the police shouldn't be allowed to shoot at someone unless they shot at the police first.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:33:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:40:20 AM EDT
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at 53 I doubt he was outside playing airsoft, so i'm going to go with suicide by cop. If that was the case then yes, suicide by cop. Sad, but some people will blame the cop for this....and not realize that it can sometimes be extremely difficult for the cop to deal with such a tragedy. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:42:37 AM EDT
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Jennifer Anniston has her own police force? kewl.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:42:51 AM EDT
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Do Airsofters open carry now?
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:45:51 AM EDT
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How does one really define "looked real"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it looked real, good shoot. Since I have an airsoft gun that looks exactly like my glock, I'm going with it looked real and good shoot. How does one really define "looked real"? Some airsoft guns are clear plastic with orange tips and all that jazz. That's probably what he means. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:53:29 AM EDT
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Selfish bastard. Hate it for the cop(s). This. The caller ID'ed himself as "Frank", the dead man is also Frank. Co-incidence? Doubt it. FWIW, I've got an airsoft 1911 that looks very realistic except for an orange barrel extension that protrudes about 1" from the slide. Paint that black, or just saw it off, it becomes hard to tell from more than a few feet away that it's a toy. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:55:00 AM EDT
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damn, i saw the article pop up with the Anniston star, but they had no comments from the police yet. I guess this is why.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:56:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure the federal government would try to charge a dead person. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot. Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. How is it illegal? You can't really charge a dead person. I'm sure the federal government would try to charge a dead person. Life Insurance. You cannot collect Life insurance on someone who died committing a certain level of crime. Usually a "Felony". Chances are the guy wants his family to get the insurance so he couldn't suicide himself officially, and thought accidental suicide by cop without doing a real crime, and bingo, family gets paid and he doesn't have to live. My thoughts at least.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:57:02 AM EDT
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Some airsoft guns are clear plastic with orange tips and all that jazz. That's probably what he means. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it looked real, good shoot. Since I have an airsoft gun that looks exactly like my glock, I'm going with it looked real and good shoot. How does one really define "looked real"? Some airsoft guns are clear plastic with orange tips and all that jazz. That's probably what he means. Police have shot people over wallets, cellphones, spoons, anything and everything. The only requirement is that said object was perceived by the police as a weapon or capable of being used as one. What it actually is has no bearing on the situation at hand, and almost no value afterwards either. QI makes it so that any mistake is forgivable. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:58:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:04:45 AM EDT
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This. The caller ID'ed himself as "Frank", the dead man is also Frank. Co-incidence? Doubt it. FWIW, I've got an airsoft 1911 that looks very realistic except for an orange barrel extension that protrudes about 1" from the slide. Paint that black, or just saw it off, it becomes hard to tell from more than a few feet away that it's a toy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Selfish bastard. Hate it for the cop(s). This. The caller ID'ed himself as "Frank", the dead man is also Frank. Co-incidence? Doubt it. FWIW, I've got an airsoft 1911 that looks very realistic except for an orange barrel extension that protrudes about 1" from the slide. Paint that black, or just saw it off, it becomes hard to tell from more than a few feet away that it's a toy. The orange tip means absolutely nothing. Remember, he wasn't shot because he had a 'gun', he was shot because he threatened them. This is a huge distinction, and removes basically all of reality from the situation. All that matters is what the cop thinks he saw. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:05:41 AM EDT
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How does one really define "looked real"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it looked real, good shoot. Since I have an airsoft gun that looks exactly like my glock, I'm going with it looked real and good shoot. How does one really define "looked real"? Well, I'd say if it gets you shot, it looked real enough.
Sucks for the cop though. I hope he has someone to talk through it with, as that's gotta be hard on the soul, even though it sure as shit seemed a righteous shoot. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:15:23 AM EDT
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The orange tip means absolutely nothing. Remember, he wasn't shot because he had a 'gun', he was shot because he threatened them. This is a huge distinction, and removes basically all of reality from the situation. All that matters is what the cop thinks he saw. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Selfish bastard. Hate it for the cop(s). This. The caller ID'ed himself as "Frank", the dead man is also Frank. Co-incidence? Doubt it. FWIW, I've got an airsoft 1911 that looks very realistic except for an orange barrel extension that protrudes about 1" from the slide. Paint that black, or just saw it off, it becomes hard to tell from more than a few feet away that it's a toy. The orange tip means absolutely nothing. Remember, he wasn't shot because he had a 'gun', he was shot because he threatened them. This is a huge distinction, and removes basically all of reality from the situation. All that matters is what the cop thinks he saw. He threatened them by pointing what he had in his hand at them. It was outdoors, 9:30am, so you could safely assume what was in his hand was visible. Would it have been a good shoot if he pointed a bright yellow DeWalt cordless drill at them, or a bananna, instead of a realistic looking replica of a firearm? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:18:11 AM EDT
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Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot. Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. So does SBC still get your relatives a life insurance pay off? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:19:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: ANNISTON, AL (WBRC) - Anniston police officers fatally shot a man who refused to drop his weapon, which later turned out to be an airsoft gun, on Tuesday morning. A caller who identified himself as "Frank" called 911 around 9:30 a.m. to report a "male walking round the area of Net Street and Twine Street with a firearm," the police department said in a release. Two officers responded to the area in the Blue Mountain community and saw a white male holding a weapon. Police Captain Allen George says the officers gave "multiple commands" for the man to drop his weapon, but he refused. "He told him multiple times to put his gun down, put his gun down, put his gun down. I counted multiple times that he did that. And it got to the point of pleading with him for a second," Anniston Police Chief Shane Denham said at a news conference on Tuesday afternoon. Denham confirmed the man's identity as Frank Charles Johnston, 53. "Not only did he refuse to drop the weapon, he raised the weapon and took up a shooting stance, and pointed it at the officers," the police chief added. http://www.myfoxal.com/story/25309722/anniston-officers-fatally-shoot-man-armed-with-airsoft-gun Yay for my hometown... Definitely sounds like suicide by cop. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:20:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI care. I care about the cops who were put in a bad situation by someone who probably had mental issues. I care about the guy's family who have to go through seeing a (presumably) loved one take this course of action. I care about the folks who were exposed to the unpleasant sight of seeing a human being killed. We need a little more caring in this society rather than less. I honestly feel a bit sorry for you that you've had to become so calloused . (not joking) |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:21:35 AM EDT
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I'm calling 'Good shoot.'
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:21:39 AM EDT
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If it looked real, good shoot. Since I have an airsoft gun that looks exactly like my glock, I'm going with it looked real and good shoot. How does one really define "looked real"? If a reasonable person at the same distance, angle, time constraint, etc, would not be able to distinguish the airsoft toy from its real steel equivalent, then it "looks real". Comparing the airsoft toys I've owned with the guns I've owned, anything that's not a clear plastic wal-mart gun is going to look real. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:23:59 AM EDT
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You know why Suicide is ILLEGAL? So they can charge you with a crime if you fail and.... Life Insurance. You cannot collect Life insurance on someone who died committing a certain level of crime. Usually a "Felony". Chances are the guy wants his family to get the insurance so he couldn't suicide himself officially, and thought accidental suicide by cop without doing a real crime, and bingo, family gets paid and he doesn't have to live. My thoughts at least. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suicide by cop.........point a gun at the police, and you'll probably get shot. Suicide is illegal, yet one of the easiest ways to die is to call the cops and pretend to threaten their lives. How is it illegal? You can't really charge a dead person. I'm sure the federal government would try to charge a dead person. Life Insurance. You cannot collect Life insurance on someone who died committing a certain level of crime. Usually a "Felony". Chances are the guy wants his family to get the insurance so he couldn't suicide himself officially, and thought accidental suicide by cop without doing a real crime, and bingo, family gets paid and he doesn't have to live. My thoughts at least. My policy covers suicide, after two years. Is anyone here 6' 210# with a burr and salt/pepper hair?
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:28:51 AM EDT
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Blue Mountain Community? Surely not.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:33:47 AM EDT
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He threatened them by pointing what he had in his hand at them. It was outdoors, 9:30am, so you could safely assume what was in his hand was visible. Would it have been a good shoot if he pointed a bright yellow DeWalt cordless drill at them, or a bananna, instead of a realistic looking replica of a firearm? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Selfish bastard. Hate it for the cop(s). This. The caller ID'ed himself as "Frank", the dead man is also Frank. Co-incidence? Doubt it. FWIW, I've got an airsoft 1911 that looks very realistic except for an orange barrel extension that protrudes about 1" from the slide. Paint that black, or just saw it off, it becomes hard to tell from more than a few feet away that it's a toy. The orange tip means absolutely nothing. Remember, he wasn't shot because he had a 'gun', he was shot because he threatened them. This is a huge distinction, and removes basically all of reality from the situation. All that matters is what the cop thinks he saw. He threatened them by pointing what he had in his hand at them. It was outdoors, 9:30am, so you could safely assume what was in his hand was visible. Would it have been a good shoot if he pointed a bright yellow DeWalt cordless drill at them, or a bananna, instead of a realistic looking replica of a firearm? Yes. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:43:31 AM EDT
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Selfish bastard. Hate it for the cop(s). This. The caller ID'ed himself as "Frank", the dead man is also Frank. Co-incidence? Doubt it. FWIW, I've got an airsoft 1911 that looks very realistic except for an orange barrel extension that protrudes about 1" from the slide. Paint that black, or just saw it off, it becomes hard to tell from more than a few feet away that it's a toy. The orange tip means absolutely nothing. Remember, he wasn't shot because he had a 'gun', he was shot because he threatened them. This is a huge distinction, and removes basically all of reality from the situation. All that matters is what the cop thinks he saw. He threatened them by pointing what he had in his hand at them. It was outdoors, 9:30am, so you could safely assume what was in his hand was visible. Would it have been a good shoot if he pointed a bright yellow DeWalt cordless drill at them, or a bananna, instead of a realistic looking replica of a firearm? Yes. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/FunYun1983/thidHN_zpsdabc6f1d.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p44/kyReeElain/banana-gun-9818.jpg http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j174/FunYun1983/Dewalt-16-Side_zpsc9b584b9.jpg  FTW
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:43:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: JBT's should have known it was a fake gun. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:04:56 AM EDT
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I'll take suicide by cop for $600 please
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