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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:47:53 PM EDT
In what scenarios would you possibly need them, where it's dark enough to use, and the threat is far enough away to need sights - where it's safe to send rounds down range...
Humor me. (Hidden agenda: I really want to put a fiber optic front on my CCW - T 'effing' Os aren't an option.  )
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:48:46 PM EDT
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I have always wondered this.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:48:49 PM EDT
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Don't know, I barely carry it.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:48:50 PM EDT
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Quoted: In what scenarios would you possibly need them, where it's dark enough to use, and the threat is far enough away to need sights - where it's safe to send rounds down range... Humor me. (Hidden agenda: I really want to put a fiber optic front on my CCW - T 'effing' Os aren't an option. ) |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:48:52 PM EDT
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You don't need them.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:50:23 PM EDT
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never shot in low light eh? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In what scenarios would you possibly need them, where it's dark enough to use, and the threat is far enough away to need sights - where it's safe to send rounds down range... Humor me. (Hidden agenda: I really want to put a fiber optic front on my CCW - T 'effing' Os aren't an option. )I have. But I knew I was shooting at paper. In my house I am not going to pop off rounds at something I can not see. If there is enough light to identify the target, night sites are useless. I keep a light on all my guns anyways. Night sites do not help at all. Now I could see an argument for fiber optic sites. I have had 4 pistols with night sites, but I did not buy the gun because they were there. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:50:37 PM EDT
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no need.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:52:24 PM EDT
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never shot in low light eh? CCW... not Haley Strategic nighttime class or SHTF... 
*ETA: Not home defense either, THAT has WML... |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:52:30 PM EDT
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Mine has standard factory sights.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:52:44 PM EDT
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But what happens if you have multiple attackers that are coming out of everywhere like I saw in that one movie?
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:53:53 PM EDT
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OP is just a cheapskate and trying to rationalize his shitty decision.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:56:13 PM EDT
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OP is just a cheapskate and trying to rationalize his shitty decision. OP seems spot on to me. Now for an offensive role, they would be the bees knees. I can see uses for the military. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:57:42 PM EDT
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:57:43 PM EDT
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OP is just a cheapskate and trying to rationalize his shitty decision. OP is going to let this one slide... |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:00:10 PM EDT
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. In a real deal self defense gunfight, I doubt many people would even look at the damn sights. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:00:56 PM EDT
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There are lots of situations that are not *complete* darkness, but that may be dark enough for the night sights to come into play.
It's entirely possible to know you have a threat to engage during a very dark condition. If nothing else, they can get you a sight index prior to activating illumination, when the light goes on you'd better be ready to react immediately. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:02:35 PM EDT
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. This And my Trijicons stand out way better than the factory glock sights when Im using them with my TLR-1 in low light conditions. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:02:57 PM EDT
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I schedule all my gunfights at high noon. Night sights? F that noise!
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:03:24 PM EDT
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:03:53 PM EDT
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This And my Trijicons stand out way better than the factory glock sights when Im using them with my TLR-1 in low light conditions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. This And my Trijicons stand out way better than the factory glock sights when Im using them with my TLR-1 in low light conditions. The Glock sights, and one set of Trijicons I had were VERY dim. The brightest I have seen were Trijicon I believe, on a sig 1911. Sights were great. Gun was a piece of shit. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:05:00 PM EDT
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In a real deal self defense gunfight, I doubt many people would even look at the damn sights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. In a real deal self defense gunfight, I doubt many people would even look at the damn sights. What if you had a guy yelling "I'm going to rape you!" from 35 yards away carrying a broadsword? |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:05:10 PM EDT
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In a real deal self defense gunfight, I doubt many people would even look at the damn sights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. In a real deal self defense gunfight, I doubt many people would even look at the damn sights. Probably true, but having sights that work in a variety of conditions isn't going to be a detriment. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:05:13 PM EDT
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In a real deal self defense gunfight, I doubt many people would even look at the damn sights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. In a real deal self defense gunfight, I doubt many people would even look at the damn sights. If a lawyer is attached to every bullet I fire, yes I would. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:06:20 PM EDT
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. Can't see a problem with anything that would help you see your front sight better if needed  , can you imagine every scenario possible?
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:06:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: In what scenarios would you possibly need them, where it's dark enough to use, and the threat is far enough away to need sights - where it's safe to send rounds down range... Humor me. (Hidden agenda: I really want to put a fiber optic front on my CCW - T 'effing' Os aren't an option. ) |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:07:08 PM EDT
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For times when it's too bright for a white light to be really useful, but dark enough that picking up the front sight is difficult.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:07:48 PM EDT
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If you are trying to sneak around in complete darkness, like inside your home, they will light up your face. Walk past a mirror and you'll see that I'm right.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:07:50 PM EDT
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Because I want to .
Now return downstairs and leave the adults alone. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:08:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:09:06 PM EDT
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What if you had a guy yelling "I'm going to rape you!" from 35 yards away carrying a broadsword? THANK YOU! Finally someone gave a plausible situation where you would need night sights on your CCW!!! (First one in this thread!  )
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:09:41 PM EDT
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I take it you have never fired your pistol in low light and have no training? If you are using a light often, I would say mostly, the target is illuminated but your sights are poorly illuminated, or not at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In what scenarios would you possibly need them, where it's dark enough to use, and the threat is far enough away to need sights - where it's safe to send rounds down range... Humor me. (Hidden agenda: I really want to put a fiber optic front on my CCW - T 'effing' Os aren't an option. )With my lights, the tritium is not noticeable when they are on. Also, once you fire one round, I doubt you will be able to see the damn things. Especially from a 357sig. That fucks up your night vision all kinds of ways.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:10:29 PM EDT
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When a mean animal is to far away to point shoot and a light might give away your position or cause it to charge you. Dog on meth, rabid dog, rabid coyote or any other animal.
When you have been cold cocked from behind, lost your light when you fell, come to with the guys after your wife, kids, etc. Lots of cases where being able to see your sights might be necessary. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:12:46 PM EDT
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The Glock sights, and one set of Trijicons I had were VERY dim. The brightest I have seen were Trijicon I believe, on a sig 1911. Sights were great. Gun was a piece of shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. This And my Trijicons stand out way better than the factory glock sights when Im using them with my TLR-1 in low light conditions. The Glock sights, and one set of Trijicons I had were VERY dim. The brightest I have seen were Trijicon I believe, on a sig 1911. Sights were great. Gun was a piece of shit. My Bright and Toughs will almost illuminate a room
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:13:43 PM EDT
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My Bright and Toughs will almost illuminate a room Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. This And my Trijicons stand out way better than the factory glock sights when Im using them with my TLR-1 in low light conditions. The Glock sights, and one set of Trijicons I had were VERY dim. The brightest I have seen were Trijicon I believe, on a sig 1911. Sights were great. Gun was a piece of shit. My Bright and Toughs will almost illuminate a room That's how the ones were on my scorpion. you could see the damn things 50 yards away in a holster. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:16:19 PM EDT
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Errr some slight advantage rooted in human reaction in quick alignment of target acquisition and your weapon which might some how give you an advantage in a situation where a fraction of an advantage might pay off?
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:17:16 PM EDT
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sounds like most of arfcom needs to try to use their weapon at night.
do you have your flashlight constantly on? if so, you just became a bullet magnet. light on, then off quickly. then you move. rinse repeat. its nice to know where your weapon is pointed before you light the target up night sights are handy in many low light or no light situations |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:17:33 PM EDT
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When a mean animal is to far away to point shoot and a light might give away your position or cause it to charge you. Dog on meth, rabid dog, rabid coyote or any other animal. When you have been cold cocked from behind, lost your light when you fell, come to with the guys after your wife, kids, etc. Lots of cases where being able to see your sights might be necessary. So you would shoot at a guy in a room where the light was so low that you could not make out normal sights, and prefer to have your night vision further degraded by a green light? |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:18:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In a real deal self defense gunfight, I doubt many people would even look at the damn sights. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them. In a real deal self defense gunfight, I doubt many people would even look at the damn sights. QFT |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:18:50 PM EDT
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sounds like most of arfcom needs to try to use their weapon at night. do you have your flashlight constantly on? if so, you just became a bullet magnet. light on, then off quickly. then you move. rinse repeat. its nice to know where your weapon is pointed before you light the target up night sights are handy in many low light or no light situations I have used them for hunting. They work great when I am in a field shooting at something that does not have my wife and kid behind/in front of it. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:19:50 PM EDT
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Because they give me added benefit without a drawback. Increased capability sacrificing nothing.
Seems kind of like a no-brainer to me? |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:20:44 PM EDT
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sounds like most of arfcom needs to try to use their weapon at night. do you have your flashlight constantly on? if so, you just became a bullet magnet. light on, then off quickly. then you move. rinse repeat. its nice to know where your weapon is pointed before you light the target up night sights are handy in many low light or no light situations Maybe if you're blasting away at 'pretend' badguys (*eta: THAT DON'T MOVE...) where it's safe to send rounds off into complete darkness lol... aka all tac'd out at the range running dem drillz!
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:21:24 PM EDT
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Oh god didn't we do this thread like 2 months ago.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:22:12 PM EDT
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when you need to get on target and find the front sight in a hurry in low light
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:22:14 PM EDT
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Because I put my carry gun on my bedside table and if I hear anything, I simply look over and 3 green dots tell me exactly where my gun is.
My G22 has Ameriglo suppressor sights and it's the HD gun for now. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:22:29 PM EDT
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Oh god didn't we do this thread like 2 months ago. Welcome to GD? |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:22:43 PM EDT
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I take it you have never fired your pistol in low light and have no training? If you are using a light often, I would say mostly, the target is illuminated but your sights are poorly illuminated, or not at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In what scenarios would you possibly need them, where it's dark enough to use, and the threat is far enough away to need sights - where it's safe to send rounds down range... Humor me. (Hidden agenda: I really want to put a fiber optic front on my CCW - T 'effing' Os aren't an option. )It's true, go into a room with low light with your pistol. You can normally see the target but not your sights. That being said, I only have NS on one of my pistols and I never carry it. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:22:54 PM EDT
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Because I put my carry gun on my bedside table and if I hear anything, I simply look over and 3 green dots tell me exactly where my gun is. My G22 has Ameriglo suppressor sights and it's the HD gun for now. This post makes sense. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:23:13 PM EDT
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Oh god didn't we do this thread like 2 months ago. Half the threads we have now we did two months ago, it's GD |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:23:25 PM EDT
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In what scenarios would you possibly need them, where it's dark enough to use, and the threat is far enough away to need sights - where it's safe to send rounds down range... Humor me. (Hidden agenda: I really want to put a fiber optic front on my CCW - T 'effing' Os aren't an option. )Movie Theater..... |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:23:57 PM EDT
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It's true, go into a room with low light with your pistol. You can normally see the target but not your sights. That being said, I only have NS on one of my pistols and I never carry it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In what scenarios would you possibly need them, where it's dark enough to use, and the threat is far enough away to need sights - where it's safe to send rounds down range... Humor me. (Hidden agenda: I really want to put a fiber optic front on my CCW - T 'effing' Os aren't an option. )It's true, go into a room with low light with your pistol. You can normally see the target but not your sights. That being said, I only have NS on one of my pistols and I never carry it. In a room, I would not be using my sites. Sounds stupid, but I am going to point shoot on anything within 4-5 yards. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:24:52 PM EDT
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Because I put my carry gun on my bedside table and if I hear anything, I simply look over and 3 green dots tell me exactly where my gun is. My G22 has Ameriglo suppressor sights and it's the HD gun for now. But you put it on the bedside table... WHERE ELSE would it go??!
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