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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:12:31 PM EDT
All this talk about hoarding different types of powder & primers. Hornady vs Barnes vs. Sierra; Vargat, vs. Ramsot vs. IMR. Crazy expensive ammo reloading rooms, wasted time pulling handles like an old woman pulling a casino bingo machine with her money from social security......... 
Sure, reloading probably was price effective 10 years ago, heck maybe even 5. But to all those getting "INTO" reloading NOW, you are wasting your TIME and MONEY!!!!!!! 
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:15:14 PM EDT
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All this talk about hoarding different types of powder & primers. Hornady vs Barnes vs. Sierra; Vargat, vs. Ramsot vs. IMR. Crazy expensive ammo reloading rooms, wasted time pulling handles like an old woman pulling a casino bingo machine with her money from social security.........
Sure, reloading probably was price effective 10 years ago, heck maybe even 5. But to all those getting "INTO" reloading NOW, you are wasting your TIME and MONEY!!!!!!! CSB |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:16:25 PM EDT
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All this talk about hoarding different types of powder & primers. Hornady vs Barnes vs. Sierra; Vargat, vs. Ramsot vs. IMR. Crazy expensive ammo reloading rooms, wasted time pulling handles like an old woman pulling a casino bingo machine with her money from social security.........
Sure, reloading probably was price effective 10 years ago, heck maybe even 5. But to all those getting "INTO" reloading NOW, you are wasting your TIME and MONEY!!!!!!! I smelt & cast my own lead bullets. My equipment has already paid itself off 3 times over again. I can load 45acp with 230gr Lear round nose bullets for $0.12 per round! You newcomers are late to the game, an you're driving up he prices for those of us that will keep reloading well after this shortage. You rainy day loaders have a lot to learn. Newbies! |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:16:43 PM EDT
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Well shit...
Since I read it on the internet it must be true. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:16:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: All this talk about hoarding different types of powder & primers. Hornady vs Barnes vs. Sierra; Vargat, vs. Ramsot vs. IMR. Crazy expensive ammo reloading rooms, wasted time pulling handles like an old woman pulling a casino bingo machine with her money from social security......... Sure, reloading probably was price effective 10 years ago, heck maybe even 5. But to all those getting "INTO" reloading NOW, you are wasting your TIME and MONEY!!!!!!!  |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:16:47 PM EDT
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I bet I buy factory new Federal .45 for $0.29 a round before tax.
Ya'll can have reloading. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:17:54 PM EDT
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Uhhhh, keep thinking that, OP
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:18:01 PM EDT
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I smelt & cast my own lead bullets. My equipment has already paid itself off 3 times over again. I can load 45acp with 230gr Lear round nose bullets for $0.12 per round! You newcomers are late to the game, an you're driving up he prices for those of us that will keep reloading well after this shortage. You rainy day loaders have a lot to learn. Newbies! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All this talk about hoarding different types of powder & primers. Hornady vs Barnes vs. Sierra; Vargat, vs. Ramsot vs. IMR. Crazy expensive ammo reloading rooms, wasted time pulling handles like an old woman pulling a casino bingo machine with her money from social security.........
Sure, reloading probably was price effective 10 years ago, heck maybe even 5. But to all those getting "INTO" reloading NOW, you are wasting your TIME and MONEY!!!!!!! I smelt & cast my own lead bullets. My equipment has already paid itself off 3 times over again. I can load 45acp with 230gr Lear round nose bullets for $0.12 per round! You newcomers are late to the game, an you're driving up he prices for those of us that will keep reloading well after this shortage. You rainy day loaders have a lot to learn. Newbies! I concur! OP, you FAIL! |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:18:08 PM EDT
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All this talk about hoarding different types of powder & primers. Hornady vs Barnes vs. Sierra; Vargat, vs. Ramsot vs. IMR. Crazy expensive ammo reloading rooms, wasted time pulling handles like an old woman pulling a casino bingo machine with her money from social security.........
Sure, reloading probably was price effective 10 years ago, heck maybe even 5. But to all those getting "INTO" reloading NOW, you are wasting your TIME and MONEY!!!!!!! Noob |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:18:18 PM EDT
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Still using primers powders bullets from the 90's
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:19:16 PM EDT
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My .45ACP reloads run 21 cents a round.
Lead semi wadcutter bullets, Winchester 231, Winchester primers and scrounged cases. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:19:28 PM EDT
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All this talk about hoarding different types of powder & primers. Hornady vs Barnes vs. Sierra; Vargat, vs. Ramsot vs. IMR. Crazy expensive ammo reloading rooms, wasted time pulling handles like an old woman pulling a casino bingo machine with her money from social security.........
Sure, reloading probably was price effective 10 years ago, heck maybe even 5. But to all those getting "INTO" reloading NOW, you are wasting your TIME and MONEY!!!!!!! I started reloading for the accuracy. Being able to crank out cheap plinking ammo is a bonus. 
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:20:10 PM EDT
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I reload because it is a good hobby... And because it increases my accuracy...
Reloading is a bottomless pit. There is always something to buy to improve... I started with a hand trimmer, then upgraded to a Giraud, for instance. Right now, everyone is hit... Things are slowly getting better... There just aren't any screaming deals out there right now. 
Yeah, round for round, I ~may have saved ~a little... It is a fun hobby that has helped me shoot more and more... I can't buy $500 worth of ammo... My wife would notice that. But I can spend $20 here and $20 there, and have the same number of rounds with a bit of cost-savings that I would have had if I had just spent $500 right-off... |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:20:54 PM EDT
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I can buy all the .45 remington or federal fmj at wallyworld for 21$ abox of 50 ... and 9mm for 13$ for federal or winchester per 50 fmj. you can't tell me reloading is cost effective, sure it would be something to mess with as a hobby but time + cost effective ,,, no its not anymore. yeh you can reload cheaper im sure, but the time it takes is not worth it, hence why i said it would be a good hobby.
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:21:18 PM EDT
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My joint date of 2008 does not qualify me as an old timer NOR a noob!
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All this talk about hoarding different types of powder & primers. Hornady vs Barnes vs. Sierra; Vargat, vs. Ramsot vs. IMR. Crazy expensive ammo reloading rooms, wasted time pulling handles like an old woman pulling a casino bingo machine with her money from social security.........
Sure, reloading probably was price effective 10 years ago, heck maybe even 5. But to all those getting "INTO" reloading NOW, you are wasting your TIME and MONEY!!!!!!! Noob |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:22:03 PM EDT
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Thinking of taking the reloading plunge after the Buds RIA 1911 deal, are you trying to dissuade me?
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:22:31 PM EDT
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You can still get in under .30 a round for .45 at today's prices.
$30.00 @ 1400 rounds out of a pound / .02 - .03c a round 1000 primers = $35.00 / .035c a round 500 extreme 230 grain bullets = $65 / .13c a round Total cost if you reload your own brass = .18.5c - 19.5c a round If you have to buy brass then all bets are off. Its been going for .06 - .15c a piece, still potentially less than .30c a round but pushing the economic feasibility and repayment of the press and equipment out much further. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:23:00 PM EDT
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Why you mad bro?
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:23:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet I buy factory new Federal .45 for $0.29 a round before tax. Ya'll can have reloading. Well, all I have to say is this. I was going to get into reloading because I can't find match grade .45 ACP for less than .29 a round. Now that you posted this, I am spared the joys and entertainment of a useless hobby that probably won't do me any good for 6.5 Grendel, .308 Winchester, .223 Winchester, etc... |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:23:33 PM EDT
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]If economics is your only impetus for reloading....you missed the boat.
I agree wholeheartedly. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:24:18 PM EDT
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Still reloading .45 for 13.9 cents a round
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:24:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I reload because it is a good hobby... And because it increases my accuracy... Reloading is a bottomless pit. There is always something to buy to improve... I started with a hand trimmer, then upgraded to a Giraud, for instance. Right now, everyone is hit... Things are slowly getting better... There just aren't any screaming deals out there right now. Yeah, round for round, I ~may have saved ~a little... It is a fun hobby that has helped me shoot more and more... I can't buy $500 worth of ammo... My wife would notice that. But I can spend $20 here and $20 there, and have the same number of rounds with a bit of cost-savings that I would have had if I had just spent $500 right-off... Giraud is my next purchase, or another RCBS ChargeMaster Combo... |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:24:40 PM EDT
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230 gr lead 11.00 per 100.
100 primers 3.59. Powder lets say 2 bucks which is probably high. So 100 rounds costs me 16.59 a box which is close to 1/2 as much as your 29 per 100. Post a link to that price or it's BS Walmart stocks winchester white box value packs for more than 40 bucks now. Cabelas has bulk federal $50 for 100. I'll spend 20 minutes on my Lock n Load progressive to save 25 bucks, I'll get better ammo also. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:24:56 PM EDT
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As opposed to using your time productively by posting troll threads on Arfcom.....
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:25:24 PM EDT
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You can still get in under .30 a round for .45 at today's prices. $30.00 @ 1400 rounds out of a pound / .02 - .03c a round 1000 primers = $35.00 / .035c a round 500 extreme 230 grain bullets = $65 / .13c a round Total cost if you reload your own brass = .18.5c - 19.5c a round If you have to buy brass then all bets are off. Its been going for .06 - .15c a piece, still potentially less than .30c a round but pushing the economic feasibility and repayment of the press and equipment out much further. And thats the other thing. I am lazy as hell and I hate picking up brass, never have never will.. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:25:41 PM EDT
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I bet I buy factory new Federal .45 for $0.29 a round before tax. Ya'll can have reloading. Why is it every time I see someone from Georgia they actually type ya'll? FFS at least use correct grammar when you type. Sounding like a hick is bad enough and I'm from Georgia. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:26:00 PM EDT
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Good troll, turd!
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:26:01 PM EDT
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All this talk about hoarding different types of powder & primers. Hornady vs Barnes vs. Sierra; Vargat, vs. Ramsot vs. IMR. Crazy expensive ammo reloading rooms, wasted time pulling handles like an old woman pulling a casino bingo machine with her money from social security.........
Sure, reloading probably was price effective 10 years ago, heck maybe even 5. But to all those getting "INTO" reloading NOW, you are wasting your TIME and MONEY!!!!!!! Wrong. I reload .45 for about 7-10 cents a round. Casting equipment is paid for with savings from loading for more expensive calibers(like .45-70, $2/round for factory). Lead I can still get for about $30 per hundred pounds(wheelweights from an area tire shop that is still willing to sell). Brass, I have from factory ammo as well as friends who shoot but don't reload .45. Primers are 3-4 cents each. Powder? At 7000 grains per pound($20-$25), and under 5 grains per round, it adds less than a penny per round. The only other cost is my time, and my casting and reloading is done when I'd otherwise be scratching my ass. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:26:12 PM EDT
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I'm reloading high quality brass cased 223 for .22 CPR with recently purchased components.Where can I buy 223 that cheap??
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:26:40 PM EDT
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Well, all I have to say is this. I was going to get into reloading because I can't find match grade .45 ACP for less than .29 a round. Now that you posted this, I am spared the joys and entertainment of a useless hobby that probably won't do me any good for 6.5 Grendel, .308 Winchester, .223 Winchester, etc...
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I bet I buy factory new Federal .45 for $0.29 a round before tax. Ya'll can have reloading. Well, all I have to say is this. I was going to get into reloading because I can't find match grade .45 ACP for less than .29 a round. Now that you posted this, I am spared the joys and entertainment of a useless hobby that probably won't do me any good for 6.5 Grendel, .308 Winchester, .223 Winchester, etc...
As already mentioned, reloading for a hobby is one thing. Reloading for economics makes no sense. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:26:55 PM EDT
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Considering I bought and stocked up on reloading components 15 years ago, I say OP is wrong!
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:27:06 PM EDT
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UM, not mad.  Otherwise I would be getting a rant score. Not a rant. Not mad. Just the facts. No one can prove to me
that you can reload FMJ .45 for less than store bought FMJ ammo. I'm not even taking into account a progressive press. I just want perspective 12ers, 13ers and 14ers to look with both eyes open before jumping into a 2grand mistake.
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Why you mad bro? |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:27:39 PM EDT
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Still using primers powders bullets from the 90's Then you failed because you should have sold it all precisely 1 year ago and paid off your house or bought another. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:27:41 PM EDT
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My joint date of 2008 does not qualify me as an old timer NOR a noob! Quote HistoryQuoted:
My joint date of 2008 does not qualify me as an old timer NOR a noob! Quoted:
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All this talk about hoarding different types of powder & primers. Hornady vs Barnes vs. Sierra; Vargat, vs. Ramsot vs. IMR. Crazy expensive ammo reloading rooms, wasted time pulling handles like an old woman pulling a casino bingo machine with her money from social security.........
Sure, reloading probably was price effective 10 years ago, heck maybe even 5. But to all those getting "INTO" reloading NOW, you are wasting your TIME and MONEY!!!!!!! Noob Your post (OP) qualifies you as one. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:28:02 PM EDT
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I can buy all the .45 remington or federal fmj at wallyworld for 21$ abox of 50 ... and 9mm for 13$ for federal or winchester per 50 fmj. you can't tell me reloading is cost effective, sure it would be something to mess with as a hobby but time + cost effective ,,, no its not anymore. yeh you can reload cheaper im sure, but the time it takes is not worth it, hence why i said it would be a good hobby. When you can find it you can buy it. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:28:05 PM EDT
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I can buy all the .45 remington or federal fmj at wallyworld for 21$ abox of 50 ... and 9mm for 13$ for federal or winchester per 50 fmj. you can't tell me reloading is cost effective, sure it would be something to mess with as a hobby but time + cost effective ,,, no its not anymore. yeh you can reload cheaper im sure, but the time it takes is not worth it, hence why i said it would be a good hobby. I guarantee you I have saved thousands of dollars on .416 Rigby alone simply by handloading for it. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:28:16 PM EDT
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Hornady blemished 185gr bullet: $11/100 11c ea
Wolf primers: $23/1000 2.3c ea 4.1gr VV N310 $29/lb 1.7c per shot =15 cents per round |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:28:20 PM EDT
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I can still load rifle and pistol for cheaper than I can buy it, with much better quality components.
What I can't economically reload for is shotgun. Lead prices being what they are I can actually buy shells cheaper than what I can reload for. Granted my reloads will be a lot better, but for a couple of bucks more a box for comparable shells it really isn't worth the time, and I have a bunch of money invested in equipment. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:28:25 PM EDT
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Well shit... Since I read it on the internet it must be true. I know right.. 8k invested in just making bullets.. what a waste..
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:28:36 PM EDT
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I typed up a long reply, full of math and stuff, but on second thought, I'd rather you just believe what you want to believe.
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:28:51 PM EDT
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Reloading is not just about saving money...
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:29:45 PM EDT
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Whatever. More reloading supplies for me.
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:31:12 PM EDT
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It costs me about $.18 a round to reload .45.
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:32:01 PM EDT
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UM, not mad. Otherwise I would be getting a rant score. Not a rant. Not mad. Just the facts. No one can prove to me
that you can reload FMJ .45 for less than store bought FMJ ammo. I'm not even taking into account a progressive press. I just want perspective 12ers, 13ers and 14ers to look with both eyes open before jumping into a 2grand mistake.
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UM, not mad. Otherwise I would be getting a rant score. Not a rant. Not mad. Just the facts. No one can prove to me
that you can reload FMJ .45 for less than store bought FMJ ammo. I'm not even taking into account a progressive press. I just want perspective 12ers, 13ers and 14ers to look with both eyes open before jumping into a 2grand mistake.
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Why you mad bro? 2 grand , you can get lock and load progressive with dies and shell plate for ~500. That's all you need to load .45 acp on a progressive. The derp is strong with you.
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:32:02 PM EDT
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Need to shop around and make it worth it.
I still have components (for 45 acp) I purchased during the 2008 ammo crush. Primer: .025 ($25/1000 WLP)) Case: free (who buys 45acp brass?) Powder: .015 (8 lbs Power Pistol $140) Bullet: .07 (500/$35 for LSWC185gr) $.11 for components from 2008. Components I purchased this year: Primer: .023 ($23/1000 Tula LP) Case: free (who buys 45acp brass?) Powder: .015 (1 lb Power Pistol $18) Bullet: .13 (500/$66 for plated 230gr) $.17 for components purchased 2013. Hope my math is good. I'm a product of California public schooling. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:32:53 PM EDT
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Not including your original cost of brass is somewhat deceptive for noobs. Not that it counts for this simple example but how much other money do you have invested in your press and accessories? 3-5 grand? All in? 
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230 gr lead 11.00 per 100. 100 primers 3.59. Powder lets say 2 bucks which is probably high. So 100 rounds costs me 16.59 a box which is close to 1/2 as much as your 29 per 100. Post a link to that price or it's BS Walmart stocks winchester white box value packs for more than 40 bucks now. Cabelas has bulk federal $50 for 100. I'll spend 20 minutes on my Lock n Load progressive to save 25 bucks, I'll get better ammo also. |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:33:06 PM EDT
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12 cpr if I buy bullets. Less if I cast my own.
I can buy factory stuff for 30 cpr |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:34:47 PM EDT
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I can buy all the .45 remington or federal fmj at wallyworld for 21$ abox of 50 ... and 9mm for 13$ for federal or winchester per 50 fmj. you can't tell me reloading is cost effective, sure it would be something to mess with as a hobby but time + cost effective ,,, no its not anymore. yeh you can reload cheaper im sure, but the time it takes is not worth it, hence why i said it would be a good hobby. It is cost effective when reloading 30-06... |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:34:49 PM EDT
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Am I to assume you are reloading or working on the next Picasso while posting on Arfcom? 
I'm posting while watching playoff NFL so my time is well spent. Quote HistoryQuoted:
As opposed to using your time productively by posting troll threads on Arfcom..... |
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:34:51 PM EDT
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I'm loading 230 gr. LRN .45 @ $0.13/round.
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Posted: 1/4/2014 6:35:12 PM EDT
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Well that settles it , all my reloading equipment is now foe sale!
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