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Posted: 10/10/2013 8:07:54 PM EDT
Just looking learn from others experience.
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I don't shoot them enough and have nothing to compare them to.
the few I have all work ( sound ) the same to me |
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So nothing about weight, size, mounting type?
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My only experience with them is a couple mags through a buddy's work gun (Colt Commando) with an AAC can.
I got bukakked with gas in the face. I would think some sort of 'gas buster' charging handle would be beneficial. All rounds fired were in F/A. Maybe semi isnt as bad. I dunno. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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they are not all that much quieter- I can't understand why they are an NFA item a 22lr subsonic is much more effective sound wise unsuppressed.
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My only experience with them is a couple mags through a buddy's work gun (Colt Commando) with an AAC can. I got bukakked with gas in the face. I would think some sort of 'gas buster' charging handle would be beneficial. All rounds fired were in F/A. Maybe semi isnt as bad. I dunno. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote Is a piston a better platform? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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if your only going to plan on owning one, get the one with the simplest mounting setup possible.....
direct thread on if you ask me.... learn to remove and re-install non timed flash hiders or breaks such as the smith vortex and swap your suppressor across all your different 5.56 guns yes, once you own one shooting anything without one will not be as cool. feel free to pm me if you want more input TT |
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My only experience with them is a couple mags through a buddy's work gun (Colt Commando) with an AAC can. I got bukakked with gas in the face. I would think some sort of 'gas buster' charging handle would be beneficial. All rounds fired were in F/A. Maybe semi isnt as bad. I dunno. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Is a piston a better platform? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No idea. Never fired a piston AR, let alone one with a supressor. Im sure youll get the answers you seek, here in GD, for the most part. But I would also post your question in the Class 3 forum. Lots of guys dont even make it to GD. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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My only experience with them is a couple mags through a buddy's work gun (Colt Commando) with an AAC can. I got bukakked with gas in the face. I would think some sort of 'gas buster' charging handle would be beneficial. All rounds fired were in F/A. Maybe semi isnt as bad. I dunno. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Is a piston a better platform? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No. And listen to Alemonkey. Also, you should buy Ti. Steel is heavy as shit. |
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I wish I would have spent the extra ~$200 for a titanium can... Stainless steel is HEAVY on the end of a 16" rifle.
Granted, I love my suppressor, but lighter would have been better. Also, don't breathe through your nose while shooting suppressed. |
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Spend more money. I ended up with surefires and paying for them hurt. Some of the cheaper cans have ridiculous POI shift. I want a titanium trek next but if you will have only one, buy a good one.
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My only experience with them is a couple mags through a buddy's work gun (Colt Commando) with an AAC can. I got bukakked with gas in the face. I would think some sort of 'gas buster' charging handle would be beneficial. All rounds fired were in F/A. Maybe semi isnt as bad. I dunno. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote You know you enjoyed it you filthy whore. |
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Three things I learned buying a rifle can:
1) I "went backwards"... I bought a rifle can first, then a pistol can and then a 22 can. And I use them the most in the reverse order. My 22 can gets the most use, followed by the pistol can. Mostly because of number 2... 2) No matter what you do a rifle can is still "too loud". Yes you can find subsonic rifle ammo that doesn't cycle your action, but that kind of solves one problem and introduces another. It basically turns a huge boom into a smaller boom and you will still need earpro almost all of the time unless you can stand having your ears rung still. 3) Almost every rifle can will to human ears sound just like all the others... the real difference between them is WEIGHT. Buy the lightest can you can afford because suppressors are lifetime purchases for the most part and a huge hunk of steel hanging off the end of your barrel tires you out faster. If I had to do it all over again I would buy my 22 can FIRST. Then after playing with that for YEARS I'd buy my pistol can. Then honestly I would probably NEVER get around to buying my rifle can. The "bang for your buck" is just not there with rifle cans in my opinion. The ammo will always be supersonic (resulting in a loud sonic crack) unless you custom reload subsonic and live with your semiauto becoming a bolt action. I'd rather have the best 22 can and a million rounds of subsonic 22 than my rifle can 9 days out of 10. |
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My only experience with them is a couple mags through a buddy's work gun (Colt Commando) with an AAC can. I got bukakked with gas in the face. I would think some sort of 'gas buster' charging handle would be beneficial. All rounds fired were in F/A. Maybe semi isnt as bad. I dunno. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You know you enjoyed it you filthy whore. Well, it was my NFA cherry being popped at the time, so I didnt mind it as much as I normally would have. Not something Id like to deal with every time I shot, though. But again, maybe its different in semiauto. I was doing mag dumps in F/A, because 'Murica. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I bought a G5 when they used to do the gemtax deal, then I bought a trek-t. Now, I wish I had paid the extra cash and bought the G5-T. Titanium makes everything better.
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Get a 7.62mm can and a short barrel 300 blackout if you want something to write home about. Even supersonic loads are pretty quiet from it, it just goes skeeeyaaaa! from the sonic crack. But the actual muzzle blast is still pretty muffled.
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Do not run a m42k with a geissele super 3 gun in a 10.5" Noveske barrel......unless you like explaining that your gun is a semi only.
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Well, it was my NFA cherry being popped at the time, so I didnt mind it as much as I normally would have. Not something Id like to deal with every time I shot, though. But again, maybe its different in semiauto. I was doing mag dumps in F/A, because 'Murica. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My only experience with them is a couple mags through a buddy's work gun (Colt Commando) with an AAC can. I got bukakked with gas in the face. I would think some sort of 'gas buster' charging handle would be beneficial. All rounds fired were in F/A. Maybe semi isnt as bad. I dunno. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You know you enjoyed it you filthy whore. Well, it was my NFA cherry being popped at the time, so I didnt mind it as much as I normally would have. Not something Id like to deal with every time I shot, though. But again, maybe its different in semiauto. I was doing mag dumps in F/A, because 'Murica. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Got to love Murica some times. |
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I want a Liberty Triumph mainly for the light weight.
Thread on is convenient but more susceptible to working loose. EDIT: Huge +1 on a .22lr can. The Sparrow SS is amazing. The only other .22 can I would consider is the Spectre II (stainless) or Warlock II (aluminum). I have a Sparrow and my Spectre II is in jail. |
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Extra QD mounts are expensive. Kinda wish i went thread on. My next can will be a thread on .30 cal. I don't want to put mounts on hunting rifles anyway.
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I love my Gemtech halo and have no regrets. It is a bit heavy, but that does not bother me.
The ability to (with caveats) put it onto any A1 or A2 flash suppressor is pretty cool. |
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I have an AAC SPR-M4 that I use on a PWS 14.5" piston rifle. My first suppressor was an AAC TiRant 9 that I got for a Sig 226. I was absolutely amazed how quiet and fun to shoot it was, so I thought surely a suppressed AR would be just as fun. At the time, the SPR-M4 was about the quietest you could get. I can shoot without ear protection, but even with the piston, I get a face full of gas and an extremely dirty rifle. Without the can, the MK114 is wonderfully balanced, but the high weight required for a reasonably quiet can, takes that away to. It may be better with a piston rifle that has an adjustable gas port though. I ended up changing the buffer system to the VLTOR A5 because it was recoiling so hard, the buffer was bouncing and causing stove pipes, even with a Spike H2 buffer. If I were to do it again, I'd have gotten a 30 cal can. Yeah, they are a little louder and heavier, but not enough to matter. I think a bolt action 300 blkout would be as fun as the 9mm. BTW I bought the 14.5 as an upper, and had the mount pinned, so it's not an SBR. Unfortunately, my supressors are the only ones I've ever used, or seen used, so I don't have very diverse experience. Hope this helps.
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That I should have brought a .30 caliber can for both purposes, you can't really tell the difference.
AAC Cyclone and AAC SPR-M4 |
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I wish I had bought a .30 cal suppressor instead of a 5.56 can.
they both work on 5.56 but I could have used the 30 cal can on other guns, the 5.56 can is basically just that, a 5.56 can. Oh and spend the extra few dollars and get a titanium can..........well worth it. |
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Now granted, I haven't run a carbine course or anything with my 300 blackout, but the shots I've fired through it with suppressor give me absolutely no gas in the face, either supersonic or subsonic.
I put a PRI Gas Buster charging handle on it from the gitgo. You can see smoke belching out of its port after shooting a string of rounds. It's cool and seems to really work. |
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If you're only buying one can get a .308 instead of a 5.56. View Quote this. . Buy the 30 caliber can so you can use it on both. I wish I'd have done that years ago when I had the money for a suppressor. got a 223 can instead because I didn't think about it. .. I just didn't know at the time. Hind sight is 20/20, so learn from my mistake Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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QD is more expensive but well worth it IMO. My first time shooting a thread on I went to take it off and realized the damn thing was taking itself off already. I knew to check on them backing out but didn't realize how fast it could happen.
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I had an M42K and shot it out.
Literally shot the baffles out. It could not be repaired and AAC took care of it and replaced it with a SDN-6. Sounds roughly the same to me. It is on a piston setup. |
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If you're only buying one can get a .308 instead of a 5.56. This right here. Why is that? Can you use a .308 suppressor on a 5.56 rifle? Yes. Also, make sure its Titanium. |
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