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Posted: 9/24/2013 1:01:47 AM EDT
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Shameless bump, anyone got anything?
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Posted: 9/24/2013 1:15:27 AM EDT
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This an Echo? I'm assuming so with all the hard points.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 1:16:19 AM EDT
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double bump bump
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Posted: 9/24/2013 1:23:11 AM EDT
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This an Echo? I'm assuming so with all the hard points. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2310/2476351057_73fb9599a0_b.jpg Yup. That's a Strike Eagle. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 2:05:26 AM EDT
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Yes, that pic is a Strike Eagle.
I've only ever seen one in real life and those things are huge, I've read somewhere that they are the size of a WWII bomber. Now I want to build a model of one of these things and make it as accurate as possible, but I just don't know if they carry the AIM 9X, I know some air to air only F-15's, the C can carry the AIM 9X, I've seen the pics, but the E, that is another story. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 2:10:35 AM EDT
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Those aren't Sidewinders inboard? Or they're not Xs?
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Posted: 9/24/2013 2:12:41 AM EDT
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Those aren't Sidewinders inboard? Or they're not Xs? They are AIM-9M Sidewinders. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 2:14:47 AM EDT
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Oh, gotcha. Thanks.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 2:28:31 AM EDT
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I've read a PDF on the Boeing site and they claim that the F-15E can use AIM9X, but that is a general statement from them and I don't know if they are including information of the F-15SA / SG and K as well as the F-15C in this statement.
The reason I think this could be the case is because I've seen pics and video of all the other F-15 types with AIM 9X and nothing to suggest the USAF F-15E can carry it. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 2:37:29 AM EDT
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Hi all. I'm putting this request here instead of in the aviation section because there is generally more traffic in GD, mods if this is no good please advise and I will delete the thread if I can. I want to build a model of a current USAF F-15E Strike Eagle, I want to get as accurate a load out as possible but I'm having a hard time finding any pictures of the F-15E with the AIM 9X Sidewinder missile. I know some USAF F-15C's carry and can deploy the AIM 9X and I know the F-15SG, F-15K and the F-15SA can all carry and deploy the AIM 9X but these are all newer much more advanced variants than the F-15E of the USAF. My question is, does the current USAF F-15E Strike Eagle carry and deploy the AIM 9X and does anyone know where I can find a pic or two with this missile loaded? I seen some video and pics of a USAF F-15E with that little arm attached to the canopy rail in the front cockpit, I don't know what it is but it appears to be on every jet which carries the AIM 9X so I assume it has something to do with that missile and the helmet sight it uses but none of these pics of video show the Strike Eagle with the AIM9X loaded. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Rgds Jason I'm pretty sure most all our F-15C's D's and E's are AIM-9X capable and have been for years. When I was part of the 33rd FW at Eglin in 2005 the AIM-9X was just coming on line, as they had just finished testing down the road at Tyndall. I wouldn't say our latest E models are any less advanced as the SG, K and SA, being we were still purchasing them new off the line in the early 2000's. Also we tend not to sell other countries aircraft that would be more capable than our own, in regards to being able to use the AIM-9X. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 2:38:48 AM EDT
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M is cheaper than X. M gets loaded.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 2:44:16 AM EDT
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I've read a PDF on the Boeing site and they claim that the F-15E can use AIM9X, but that is a general statement from them and I don't know if they are including information of the F-15SA / SG and K as well as the F-15C in this statement. The reason I think this could be the case is because I've seen pics and video of all the other F-15 types with AIM 9X and nothing to suggest the USAF F-15E can carry it. We use the E model differently than those countries due. For the US it's more of a 90% air-to-ground and possibly 10% air-to-air. I'm don't have an exact percentage their of usage but those countries typically would lean towards a larger air-to-air role vs air-to-ground maybe 60/40. We have two other airframes entirely devoted to air-to-air and we still have a huge stockpile of older Sidewinder missile to use up. The AIM-9X would be prioritized to those air-to-air assets. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 7:54:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/24/2013 4:28:14 PM EDT
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We use the E model differently than those countries due. For the US it's more of a 90% air-to-ground and possibly 10% air-to-air. I'm don't have an exact percentage their of usage but those countries typically would lean towards a larger air-to-air role vs air-to-ground maybe 60/40. We have two other airframes entirely devoted to air-to-air and we still have a huge stockpile of older Sidewinder missile to use up. The AIM-9X would be prioritized to those air-to-air assets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've read a PDF on the Boeing site and they claim that the F-15E can use AIM9X, but that is a general statement from them and I don't know if they are including information of the F-15SA / SG and K as well as the F-15C in this statement. The reason I think this could be the case is because I've seen pics and video of all the other F-15 types with AIM 9X and nothing to suggest the USAF F-15E can carry it. We use the E model differently than those countries due. For the US it's more of a 90% air-to-ground and possibly 10% air-to-air. I'm don't have an exact percentage their of usage but those countries typically would lean towards a larger air-to-air role vs air-to-ground maybe 60/40. We have two other airframes entirely devoted to air-to-air and we still have a huge stockpile of older Sidewinder missile to use up. The AIM-9X would be prioritized to those air-to-air assets. That does make sense, I suppose the asset most likely to employ the weapon will get capability first, it could explain it. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 4:28:48 PM EDT
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yes As in yes the F-15E can and does carry the AIM 9X? |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 4:31:28 PM EDT
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yes As in yes the F-15E can and does carry the AIM 9X? It may be able to carry it but without JHMCS it's just another AIM-9. In other words, no the F-22 and F-15E cannot employ the AIM-9X in the HOBS mode due to lack of sensor cuing systems. Build it with an AIM-9M. ETA: I guess some if not all of them do have JHMCS now, so they can employ the -X, but since their primary mission is air to mud I haven't seen them carrying them when I was deployed with them. http://www.seymourjohnson.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123217548 |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 4:32:23 PM EDT
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yes As in yes the F-15E can and does carry the AIM 9X? I think it does not. I have these issues to. Last time I was looking up the launchers and to see which s stations on the A-4C and E carried the AGM-45 and AGM-12. If I recall, the A-4C can't carry the AGM-45. 
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yes As in yes the F-15E can and does carry the AIM 9X? It may be able to carry it but without JHMCS it's just another AIM-9. In other words, no the F-22 and F-15E cannot employ the AIM-9X in the HOBS mode due to lack of sensor cuing systems. Build it with an AIM-9M. When will the JHMCS be integrated with the F-22? |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 4:34:51 PM EDT
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http://www.acc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123217922
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Posted: 9/24/2013 4:36:11 PM EDT
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http://defense-update.com/20110920_raytheon-aim-9x-block-ii-airair-missile.html
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Posted: 9/24/2013 4:37:38 PM EDT
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http://theaviationist.com/2013/03/18/hmcs-raptor/#.UkIwKOe9KSM
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Posted: 9/24/2013 4:40:46 PM EDT
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http://defense-update.com/20110920_raytheon-aim-9x-block-ii-airair-missile.html Thanks for the link. Says 8 countries use them. Interesting now that the market is split between the AIM-9, AIM-132 and IRS-T. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 4:44:16 PM EDT
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Thanks for the link. Says 8 countries use them. Interesting now that the market is split between the AIM-9, AIM-132 and IRS-T. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://defense-update.com/20110920_raytheon-aim-9x-block-ii-airair-missile.html Thanks for the link. Says 8 countries use them. Interesting now that the market is split between the AIM-9, AIM-132 and IRS-T. The key there for the OP is the picture of the F-15E with the AIM-9X. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:06:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:12:08 PM EDT
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Yup. That's a Strike Eagle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This an Echo? I'm assuming so with all the hard points. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2310/2476351057_73fb9599a0_b.jpg Yup. That's a Strike Eagle. It's not the hard points that make it an "E" model. C and D models are capable of using CFT's also, it's rare, but they can. Notice the two things on the bottom of the intakes? C and D models don't have a FLIR pod or a targeting pod. Paint job also. E's are painted dark solid grey, were as C and D models have a two tone grey paint job. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:13:13 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/makeitflyfaster/media/DL13_026_zps8729b408.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y433/makeitflyfaster/DL13_026_zps8729b408.jpg</a> -9M |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:17:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm pretty sure most all our F-15C's D's and E's are AIM-9X capable and have been for years. When I was part of the 33rd FW at Eglin in 2005 the AIM-9X was just coming on line, as they had just finished testing down the road at Tyndall. I wouldn't say our latest E models are any less advanced as the SG, K and SA, being we were still purchasing them new off the line in the early 2000's. Also we tend not to sell other countries aircraft that would be more capable than our own, in regards to being able to use the AIM-9X. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hi all. I'm putting this request here instead of in the aviation section because there is generally more traffic in GD, mods if this is no good please advise and I will delete the thread if I can. I want to build a model of a current USAF F-15E Strike Eagle, I want to get as accurate a load out as possible but I'm having a hard time finding any pictures of the F-15E with the AIM 9X Sidewinder missile. I know some USAF F-15C's carry and can deploy the AIM 9X and I know the F-15SG, F-15K and the F-15SA can all carry and deploy the AIM 9X but these are all newer much more advanced variants than the F-15E of the USAF. My question is, does the current USAF F-15E Strike Eagle carry and deploy the AIM 9X and does anyone know where I can find a pic or two with this missile loaded? I seen some video and pics of a USAF F-15E with that little arm attached to the canopy rail in the front cockpit, I don't know what it is but it appears to be on every jet which carries the AIM 9X so I assume it has something to do with that missile and the helmet sight it uses but none of these pics of video show the Strike Eagle with the AIM9X loaded. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Rgds Jason I'm pretty sure most all our F-15C's D's and E's are AIM-9X capable and have been for years. When I was part of the 33rd FW at Eglin in 2005 the AIM-9X was just coming on line, as they had just finished testing down the road at Tyndall. I wouldn't say our latest E models are any less advanced as the SG, K and SA, being we were still purchasing them new off the line in the early 2000's. Also we tend not to sell other countries aircraft that would be more capable than our own, in regards to being able to use the AIM-9X. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:23:18 PM EDT
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There is a big difference between being able to carry an Aim-9X and being able to fully employ the Aim-9X. The F-15E can carry and use the Aim-9X, but without the helmet it cannot fully employ the missiles to its fullest capability. In such a situation it would be just another Aim-9 to the aircraft's targeting computer and the missile's off-boresight capability would essentially be wasted.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:28:54 PM EDT
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Wow, thanks for the replies all.
Dport, was that not an F-15C in that article http://defense-update.com/20110920_raytheon-aim-9x-block-ii-airair-missile.html I know the caption reads that it is an F-15E pilot, but the jet seems to be a single seat F-15C and the color is not that of an F-15E. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:31:31 PM EDT
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Wow, thanks for the replies all. Dport, was that not an F-15C in that article http://defense-update.com/20110920_raytheon-aim-9x-block-ii-airair-missile.html I know the caption reads that it is an F-15E pilot, but the jet seems to be a single seat F-15C and the color is not that of an F-15E. That is a C model. I have never seen a pic of an E model carrying a X. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:37:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:40:28 PM EDT
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Wow, thanks for the replies all. Dport, was that not an F-15C in that article http://defense-update.com/20110920_raytheon-aim-9x-block-ii-airair-missile.html I know the caption reads that it is an F-15E pilot, but the jet seems to be a single seat F-15C and the color is not that of an F-15E. So it is. Sorry. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:45:12 PM EDT
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The one closest is carrying a 9X, but it is not an E Model.
http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG 
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:49:08 PM EDT
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What they can carry and what they actually carry are not necessarily the same thing. It depends on the SPINS/mission/air threat. Strictly speaking, the standard conventional load for a theater is classified SECRET. Including them or excluding them from your model will not really impact the verisimilitude.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 5:49:20 PM EDT
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Here is a good example of a combat load.
http://media.dma.mil/2009/Jun/15/2000553105/-1/-1/0/081112-F-7823A-260.JPG 
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:04:08 PM EDT
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More E model porn
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:08:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The one closest is carrying a 9X, but it is not an E Model. http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:11:17 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/makeitflyfaster/media/DL13_026_zps8729b408.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y433/makeitflyfaster/DL13_026_zps8729b408.jpg</a> -9M Oops.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:20:48 PM EDT
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Pod sticking out from under the fuel tank, form line of the CFT, and the dark gray paint. How is the closest one not an -E? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The one closest is carrying a 9X, but it is not an E Model.
http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG This is not an E model either.
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:21:16 PM EDT
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Pod sticking out from under the fuel tank, form line of the CFT, and the dark gray paint. How is the closest one not an -E? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The one closest is carrying a 9X, but it is not an E Model.
http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG Singapore SG |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:29:15 PM EDT
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The one closest is carrying a 9X, but it is not an E Model.
http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG Singapore SG ... or F-15D with conformal fuel tanks painted dark?
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:33:40 PM EDT
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The one closest is carrying a 9X, but it is not an E Model.
http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG Singapore SG ... or F-15D with conformal fuel tanks painted dark? Look close at the area right below the canopy about even with the back seat. And this isn't a D model. 
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:38:05 PM EDT
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Snipped thing about Skyhawks and Shrikes pruning quote tree A-4Cs could but rarely did carry Shrikes. By the time they came in wide use,most Skyhawk squadrons flying over North Vietnam had Es and Fs which of course did carry plenty of Shrikes for Iron Hand but the Marine Cs in South Vietnam didn't need to carry them. When the Cs got updated to Ls with the E/F hump it would be more common to see one with Shrikes. 
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:52:44 PM EDT
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Pod sticking out from under the fuel tank, form line of the CFT, and the dark gray paint. How is the closest one not an -E? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The one closest is carrying a 9X, but it is not an E Model.
http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG Its a Singaporean jet the F-15SG, this and the Korean F-15K Slam Eagle and the Saudi Arabian F-15SA are all way more advanced than the USAF F-15E in terms of avionics and weapons capability, all models except the USAF F-15E can also carry and deploy the Harpoon anti ship missile and the SLAM-ER land attack version of the Harpoon as well as I think but I'm not certain, the AGM 154 JSOW |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:56:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've read a PDF on the Boeing site and they claim that the F-15E can use AIM9X, but that is a general statement from them and I don't know if they are including information of the F-15SA / SG and K as well as the F-15C in this statement. The reason I think this could be the case is because I've seen pics and video of all the other F-15 types with AIM 9X and nothing to suggest the USAF F-15E can carry it. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:56:07 PM EDT
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Look close at the area right below the canopy about even with the back seat. And this isn't a D model. http://www.nellis.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/120127-F-KX404-188.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:57:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/24/2013 6:59:47 PM EDT
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You see, that is why I love this place, I ask an obscure question here and quite frankly I'm blown away by some of the really informative replies.
Thanks again all, this is a fun thread, you all make it so. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 7:00:55 PM EDT
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Not even remotely a 9X. No it isn't, but that looks to be a nice rack of SDB's which could be interesting as well. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 7:01:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You see, that is why I love this place, I ask an obscure question here and quite frankly I'm blown away by some of the really informative replies. Thanks again all, this is a fun thread, you all make it so. |
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Posted: 9/24/2013 7:05:52 PM EDT
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Its a Singaporean jet the F-15SG, this and the Korean F-15K Slam Eagle and the Saudi Arabian F-15SA are all way more advanced than the USAF F-15E in terms of avionics and weapons capability, all models except the USAF F-15E can also carry and deploy the Harpoon anti ship missile and the SLAM-ER land attack version of the Harpoon as well as I think but I'm not certain, the AGM 154 JSOW Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The one closest is carrying a 9X, but it is not an E Model.
http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG http://media.dma.mil/2009/Oct/20/2000451754/-1/-1/0/091013-F-6911G-329.JPG Its a Singaporean jet the F-15SG, this and the Korean F-15K Slam Eagle and the Saudi Arabian F-15SA are all way more advanced than the USAF F-15E in terms of avionics and weapons capability, all models except the USAF F-15E can also carry and deploy the Harpoon anti ship missile and the SLAM-ER land attack version of the Harpoon as well as I think but I'm not certain, the AGM 154 JSOW Oh really? Please tell me more. 
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