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Posted: 1/29/2013 7:20:41 AM EDT
The earlier one got locked, the other somewhat related threads have been sidetracked.

This is a great video with lots of equipment porn. There are no english subtitles though.



I must be getting old because I like these videos that show the prepartion and supply aspects a lot more than the shootfests overlaid with loud music.

Anyone have an idea what gun this is? It has a big muzzle brake on it.

Link Posted: 1/29/2013 7:27:37 AM EDT
[#1]
Rafale is so damn sexy
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 7:33:18 AM EDT
[#2]
Hécate .50 gonna be my guess.
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 7:35:43 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Hécate .50 gonna be my guess.


Almost certainly, judging by the nearby mag.
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 7:37:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/29/2013 7:37:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/29/2013 7:40:06 AM EDT
[#6]
Sure would like to have a few of those FAMAS rifles.
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 8:40:26 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Sure would like to have a few of those FAMAS rifles.


Why?
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 8:43:28 AM EDT
[#8]
They're actually decent rifles and well built.

They're kind of ugly, but they are the ugly that speaks usage.

Quoted:
Quoted:
Sure would like to have a few of those FAMAS rifles.


Why?


Link Posted: 1/29/2013 10:09:19 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
They're actually decent rifles and well built.

They're kind of ugly, but they are the ugly that speaks usage.

Quoted:
Quoted:
Sure would like to have a few of those FAMAS rifles.


Why?




No, no they are not. Have you shot them? I have. They are garbage. Stamped flimsy dogshit. The safety and the selector are seperate levers and one of them is in your fucking armpit. Mag changes are a fucking clown show. The trigger is like a caulking gun. The sight radius is short and the sights are very high above the bore. M855 will beat them to death. French ammo is downloaded so far it will barely cycle an HK416 or a dirty M4. I've shot the FAMAS and a lot of french 5.56. Total fucking garbage.

Link Posted: 1/29/2013 12:13:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
The earlier one got locked, the other somewhat related threads have been sidetracked.

This is a great video with lots of equipment porn. There are no english subtitles though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDIDGMcbaM

I must be getting old because I like these videos that show the prepartion and supply aspects a lot more than the shootfests overlaid with loud music.

Anyone have an idea what gun this is? It has a big muzzle brake on it.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac334/david06photo/Misc/bigfrogrifle1_zps239e87cc.png


looks like a 20mm
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 12:19:32 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
They're actually decent rifles and well built.

They're kind of ugly, but they are the ugly that speaks usage.

Quoted:
Quoted:
Sure would like to have a few of those FAMAS rifles.


Why?




No, no they are not. Have you shot them? I have. They are garbage. Stamped flimsy dogshit. The safety and the selector are seperate levers and one of them is in your fucking armpit. Mag changes are a fucking clown show. The trigger is like a caulking gun. The sight radius is short and the sights are very high above the bore. M855 will beat them to death. French ammo is downloaded so far it will barely cycle an HK416 or a dirty M4. I've shot the FAMAS and a lot of french 5.56. Total fucking garbage.



What he said. It's the Yugo of modern mil rifles
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 12:24:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Tag
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 8:49:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/29/2013 8:55:47 PM EDT
[#14]
What are they doing over there? The French never win! Give up now.


Link Posted: 1/29/2013 8:58:25 PM EDT
[#15]
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What are they doing over there? The French never win! Give up now.



Link Posted: 1/29/2013 8:59:50 PM EDT
[#16]
Imagine the surprise when of the French soldiers when they were told they were going somewhere to fight, with like real bullets and stuff.
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 9:02:30 PM EDT
[#17]



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Imagine the surprise when of the French soldiers when they were told they were going somewhere to fight, with like real bullets and stuff.


Yeah, because the French aren't fighting in Afghanistan or elsewhere already.



 
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 9:02:52 PM EDT
[#18]
While I commend the bravery of the French troops and fully support what they are doing, it is disheartening to see how dependent the rest of the worlds militaries have become on the US for it's logistical needs.
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 9:02:55 PM EDT
[#19]
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Imagine the surprise when of the French soldiers when they were told they were going somewhere to fight, with like real bullets and stuff.


Like Afghanistan?



Link Posted: 1/29/2013 9:10:04 PM EDT
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While I commend the bravery of the French troops and fully support what they are doing, it is disheartening to see how dependent the rest of the worlds militaries have become on the US for it's logistical needs.


The US commitment consists of 3 C-17s. They're being used for the same reason there are Spanish and Danish C-130s,Canadian,Brit,Qatari and Hungarian C-17s. It's all about having a coalition these days and France being see as least imperial as possible. It's not like they need the 2 Alpha jets Nigeria sent,it's about the image.Of course it gets it done faster and defrays the cost but here's a hint: we rent Antonovs from the Ukraine and Russia when we need them too.
Link Posted: 1/29/2013 9:15:51 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
While I commend the bravery of the French troops and fully support what they are doing, it is disheartening to see how dependent the rest of the worlds armed forces have become on the US for it's logistical needs.


The US commitment consists of 3 C-17s. They're being used for the same reason there are Spanish and Danish C-130s,Canadian,Brit,Qatari and Hungarian C-17s. It's all about having a coalition these days and France being see as least imperial as possible. It's not like they need the 2 Alpha jets Nigeria sent,it's about the image.Of course it gets it done faster and defrays the cost but here's a hint: we rent Antonovs from the Ukraine and Russia when we need them too.


I was not even commenting on the 3 C-17's we are using.  The French are having sever logistical issues that are limiting their effectiveness.  Coalitions are nice but if you want a big boy military you need to have the ability to sustain a fight independently.

Renting VS. being given something is 2 very different things no?
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 3:18:45 AM EDT
[#22]
As often pics mostly found on mp.net:
Engineers jumping over Timbuktu airfield after it's nightly capture:





ERC-sagaie, VAB, SF and Malian troops:








Commando of the air force:





Gazelle with HOT AT missiles:









SF:





Milan ATGM:





AMX 10 unloading in Senegal:





VBL:





Supply trucks:





FFL loading C-130 and C-160: they were dropped at zero dark thirty. As you can see the FFL is still using the old steel helmet when they are jumping.







SF and para with HK 416:





French navy SF:





Rafale with a mix of AASM and GBU






Super puma:










C-130 and C-160:





 
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 3:33:06 AM EDT
[#23]
Awesome pictures.
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:01:41 AM EDT
[#24]
gee wonder why thier SF doesn't use the famas
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:30:35 AM EDT
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gee wonder why thier SF doesn't use the famas


someone better tell them that...







 
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:32:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:33:37 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:34:15 AM EDT
[#28]
one thing i've noticed is that wearing a helmet seems to be optional in the French army.  i cant see any US forces being allowed on patrol w/o one....




Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:39:31 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
one thing i've noticed is that wearing a helmet seems to be optional in the French army.  i cant see any US forces being allowed on patrol w/o one....

https://moroccoonthemove.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mali_00001-4_3_rx812_c1080x810.jpg?w=610&h=457


Interesting. Africa hot maybe?
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:42:08 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
one thing i've noticed is that wearing a helmet seems to be optional in the French army.  i cant see any US forces being allowed on patrol w/o one....

https://moroccoonthemove.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mali_00001-4_3_rx812_c1080x810.jpg?w=610&h=457


Without derailing the thread too much... it depends on your take as far as counter-insurgency work goes.  Look at the Brits in Norther Ireland (I think that's where somebody had the idea first...) and there's more than a few units using that technique over here as well.  Gets the locals to open up a bit more.

I like the idea of tasking some C-17 crews to actually carry some shit around, rather than just buring fuel to keep their hours up to par.  Really doesn't bug me at all, and I've got some vested interest in our flight crews keeping their skills up, at least until one of them gives me my last lift out of this crap-hole.
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:47:45 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
one thing i've noticed is that wearing a helmet seems to be optional in the French army.  i cant see any US forces being allowed on patrol w/o one....

https://moroccoonthemove.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mali_00001-4_3_rx812_c1080x810.jpg?w=610&h=457


Interesting. Africa hot maybe?


Iraq isn't ?
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:57:22 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
one thing i've noticed is that wearing a helmet seems to be optional in the French army.  i cant see any US forces being allowed on patrol w/o one....

https://moroccoonthemove.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mali_00001-4_3_rx812_c1080x810.jpg?w=610&h=457


Interesting. Africa hot maybe?


Iraq isn't ?


I Dont know how humid that part of africa is. Hense the question mark. I really dont have any idea. Was not being a smart ass
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:58:41 AM EDT
[#33]
not French but interesting AK...





and rails on the stock?







 
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:59:02 AM EDT
[#34]



Quoted:



Quoted:

one thing i've noticed is that wearing a helmet seems to be optional in the French army.  i cant see any US forces being allowed on patrol w/o one....



https://moroccoonthemove.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mali_00001-4_3_rx812_c1080x810.jpg?w=610&h=457




Without derailing the thread too much... it depends on your take as far as counter-insurgency work goes.  Look at the Brits in Norther Ireland (I think that's where somebody had the idea first...) and there's more than a few units using that technique over here as well.  Gets the locals to open up a bit more.



I like the idea of tasking some C-17 crews to actually carry some shit around, rather than just buring fuel to keep their hours up to par.  Really doesn't bug me at all, and I've got some vested interest in our flight crews keeping their skills up, at least until one of them gives me my last lift out of this crap-hole.
That's what I heard too. In all the pics without helmets all the civilians are black. That means that they are in the south in a friendly area. People in the current frontline zones are mostly arab/touaregs

Stay safe.





 
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 4:59:17 AM EDT
[#35]
French paras have a long history of not using helmets once they hit the ground. As was shown before, they still use the old steel pot. Generally they wear them for the jump and then stow them.
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 5:00:21 AM EDT
[#36]



Quoted:


not French but interesting AK...



and rails on the stock?



https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8324/8422008894_30c654f371_o.jpg  


Chadian soldier, probably the best desert warriors in Africa.



 
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 5:01:03 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
not French but interesting AK...

and rails on the stock?

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8324/8422008894_30c654f371_o.jpg  


I wonder how many AK guys just puked after seeing that 7.62 bakelite on a Tapco fucked AK?
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 5:02:30 AM EDT
[#38]
apparently body armor is optional too




Link Posted: 1/30/2013 5:03:41 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
apparently body armor is optional too

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8470/8415695569_7c27e1a625_o.jpg


Is it an optional thing...or are some troops not issued it?
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 5:06:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/30/2013 5:12:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/30/2013 5:19:06 AM EDT
[#42]
Tiger with added drop tank:





Pilatus of the SF





Reinforcement abord an amphibious assault ship unloaded in Senegal a few days ago:



















Link Posted: 1/30/2013 5:43:09 AM EDT
[#43]
maybe the French do take the approach that the level of armor protection worn can be adjusted based on threat level.  i've always heard that that was the idea behind designs like the US Interceptor armor and Marine IMTV but it seems that those are usually worn with all the bells and whistles.



pic, helmets but no body armor must be a good option for a place that hot:




Link Posted: 1/30/2013 6:27:59 AM EDT
[#44]

Good work in this thread, dewoitine.





Link Posted: 1/30/2013 6:28:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/30/2013 6:36:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/30/2013 6:41:25 AM EDT
[#47]
Pretty awesome that they got to do a combat jump.

Too bad the crazies still had enough time to apparently burn a shitton of historical records and other stuff.
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 7:00:34 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Quoted:
not French but interesting AK...

and rails on the stock?

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8324/8422008894_30c654f371_o.jpg  


I wonder how many AK guys just puked after seeing that 7.62 bakelite on a Tapco fucked AK?


Really?  That guy is actually fighting a war with his AK and all you can think about are the accesories he is using?
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 7:20:14 AM EDT
[#49]
Thanks for the thread, OP!
Link Posted: 1/30/2013 7:21:33 AM EDT
[#50]
Yeah the US Military is only Using C-17's in support funny i heard their putting troops on the ground Near the area of Operations for Drone support for French forces.

USA TO THE RESCUE AGAIN

U.S. to establish military presence next to Mali

The United States has signed a deal with the central African nation of Niger to host American troops and surveillance drones to keep tabs on Islamic militants in the region, officials from those countries said Tuesday.

Niger is next door to Mali, where France joined the fight against Islamic rebels earlier this month

Pentagon spokesman George Little said the role of U.S. troops in Niger "has not yet been defined" - but Niger's ambassador to the United States, Maman Sidikou, told CNN that his government has agreed to let U.S. drones operate from its territory.

Sidikou says his understanding of the agreement is the drones will be unarmed and used for surveillance to monitor extremist movements. He refused to discuss where in the country the drones would be based or when they will be operational.




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