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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:38:52 PM EDT
Yesterday morning, shortly after we got the decision in McDonald v Shitstains Chicago, I (anonymously) posted an edit to the Brady Campaign Wiki page.
It looked a little something like this: http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6594/bradyhategroup.jpg 
I figured, heh, it's mostly accurate, I might dig around for sources later today to put some citations behind it... But I doubt it will stay up. Well, it didn't stay up, but I'll be damned if it isn't spreading like wildfire. SnarkyBytes » Brady Campaign now a hate group? The Brady Campaign is now a hate group by law - DFWstangs Forums The Brady Campaign is now a hate group by law - Pirate4x4.Com ... Brady Campaign Is now a "Hate Group" per Wiki - Page 2 ... Brady Campaign now considered a Hate Group - ThePartisanPatriot Peoples Press Collective | Colorado Politics There were two hits yesterday by the end of the day, and they're earnestly debating adding that little tidbit permanently on the Wiki discussion section. I'm seriously considering calling Alan Gottlieb in Bellevue (30 minute drive from here) and offering him lunch at Sushi-Maru and a new litigation idea. But let this be a cautionary tale: the internet knows, and the internet talks. I had NO idea it would spread that fast. I figured it would be gone in 10 minutes and a handful of people would catch it and maybe chuckle. I've somehow unleashed something significantly bigger without remotely realizing it. ...And it's awesome. 
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:40:40 PM EDT
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You sir, win today's interwebz!
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:40:47 PM EDT
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haha thats fucking awesome!
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:41:03 PM EDT
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Take a look at Paul Helmke's page
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:42:34 PM EDT
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Ok, that wasn't me, but I'll swap owed beers with whoever DID add that. 
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:44:48 PM EDT
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That is so fucking awesome I can't stop laughing.
Good work Sir. 
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:45:51 PM EDT
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Not sure what I'm looking for - you gotta screencap, my edits on some interesting leftist characters have disappeared in minutes. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:46:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:46:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:46:41 PM EDT
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What's even funnier/more disturbing to me is how many people took it at face value without sources just because the internet said so.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:46:58 PM EDT
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Not sure what I'm looking for - you gotta screencap, my edits on some interesting leftist characters have disappeared in minutes. It is preserved in the history, just click on previous version and then diff. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:47:05 PM EDT
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Not sure what I'm looking for - you gotta screencap, my edits on some interesting leftist characters have disappeared in minutes. Scan down to where it mentions him becoming head of the Brady Campaign. Shit, we should go fix Josh Sugarmann's page too. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:48:41 PM EDT
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What's even funnier/more disturbing to me is how many people took it at face value without sources just because the internet said so. Well, I did link to the Wiki article on 'Hate Group', and the consensus on the discussion part of the Brady article is that it does indeed meet the general description of a hate group. So I wasn't just blowing smoke. 
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:48:58 PM EDT
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congratulations. Someone was calling it like they see it.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:49:08 PM EDT
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Nevermind, caught it -
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:49:30 PM EDT
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What's even funnier/more disturbing to me is how many people took it at face value without sources just because the internet said so. Well, I did link to the Wiki article on 'Hate Group', and the consensus on the discussion part of the Brady article is that it does indeed meet the general description of a hate group. So I wasn't just blowing smoke. No doubt, but the people who saw the original edit didn't know that. ETA: Unless that was in the original edit and I just can't see it on the screen cap, in which case disregard. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:50:03 PM EDT
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its been locked on wiki for some time there is quite the discussion going on on the talk page looks like even if the edit stays it will get moved to criticism.
we need to keep on it :) I'm finch590 on wiki |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:50:26 PM EDT
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And that's why he's a "ROGUE-Sasquatch" as opposed to the ordinary variety of Sasquatch.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:51:41 PM EDT
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You, OP, truly win the internets. All of them.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:51:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:53:05 PM EDT
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What's even funnier/more disturbing to me is how many people took it at face value without sources just because the internet said so. I'll cut them some slack. It's believable. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:53:30 PM EDT
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fyi the discussion page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brady_Campaign get in there and give citations eta:forgot the link doh |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:56:09 PM EDT
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Thanks OP, I enjoyed that!
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:56:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: What's even funnier/more disturbing to me is how many people took it at face value without sources just because the internet said so. Uh... that's more than half the planet's population you're describing there. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 12:58:55 PM EDT
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Not to hijack...much, but you ever notice how you start digging into these assholes pasts and their paths always criss-cross other major assholes?
I swear, everytime I read something regarding these peoples histories, I have to pull the tin-foil down a little tighter Helmke attended Yale at the same time that former President Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary Clinton and was an acquaintance of each. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:01:39 PM EDT
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That was awsome..
But.... Oops... Dude... I think they have your address.. 
Isn't this technically a hate group since it protests against an established civil right? (see: McDonald v. Chicago) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.166.47.122 (talk) 22:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:01:46 PM EDT
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seriously guys someone help us out and cite this thing so it sticks
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:02:28 PM EDT
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Good job.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:04:12 PM EDT
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Dude... I think they have your address..
Isn't this technically a hate group since it protests against an established civil right? (see: McDonald v. Chicago) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.166.47.122 (talk) 22:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
That IP address doesn't belong to anyone on AR15.com |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:04:30 PM EDT
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Quoted:
That was awsome..
But.... Oops... Dude... I think they have your address..
Isn't this technically a hate group since it protests against an established civil right? (see: McDonald v. Chicago) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.166.47.122 (talk) 22:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I posted with my Wiki account further down in the discussion page with a signed comment when it became clear more people were on my side than weren't. If they want to show up here at my apartment and make things unpleasant, well, I know for sure they won't have a gun. I'll make tea. 
EDIT: Plus, if Site Staff wants to check the IP address that originally posted that on the article, it will resolve to the one I was posting from at around 8-ish yesterday morning, PST... |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:06:12 PM EDT
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seriously guys someone help us out and cite this thing so it sticks Hate speech, putting the gun lobby/advocates on the same level as gun criminals, thereby advocating our imprisonment (criminals are forcibly imprisoned): 
If nothing else, it's certainly defamatory. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:06:59 PM EDT
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SO FULL OF WIN!!!!!
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:11:47 PM EDT
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Not sure what I'm looking for - you gotta screencap, my edits on some interesting leftist characters have disappeared in minutes. 
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:12:41 PM EDT
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Still there.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:16:46 PM EDT
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This is fun. Liberals do BS like this on a daily basis. We need a few of these (like the Acorn videos) once in a while.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:17:57 PM EDT
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This is fun. Liberals do BS like this on a daily basis. We need a few of these (like the Acorn videos) once in a while. I'm working on locating some state and DoJ citations before I do the VPC's page. THAT one isn't coming down just from a butthurt Wiki editor. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:18:36 PM EDT
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OP: Log out, log back in. Thanks for the large amounts of win at the expense of the Brady bunch.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:19:54 PM EDT
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While I think it is funny I do not believe that it technically fits. The definition I have found says nothing about rights only race, religion, gender, sexual orientation ect.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:20:15 PM EDT
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OP: Log out, log back in. Thanks for the large amounts of win at the expense of the Brady bunch. You're a good man. As is the OP. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:22:38 PM EDT
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McDonald vs Chicago
So far I'm Lovin' it
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:23:05 PM EDT
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Rogue-Sasquatch I salute you! |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:23:44 PM EDT
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OP: Log out, log back in. Thanks for the large amounts of win at the expense of the Brady bunch. Wow, thanks man!
Now if we can just get Gura to sue Brady and VPC for hate speech...
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:24:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:25:50 PM EDT
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While I think it is funny I do not believe that it technically fits. The definition I have found says nothing about rights only race, religion, gender, sexual orientation ect. "A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates hate, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation or other designated sector of society." Given that gun ownership is now a recognized fundamental civil right, gun owners could now definitely be considered a designated sector of society. It's just very new. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:26:33 PM EDT
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This is awesome. Tag, and I'm going to be on Wikipedia for a while after work.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:26:41 PM EDT
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IIRC weren't you the one running FNRL with a Mosin?
Bravo to everything you are doing! |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:28:51 PM EDT
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you rock dude
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:31:09 PM EDT
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OP: Log out, log back in. Thanks for the large amounts of win at the expense of the Brady bunch. Wow, thanks man!
Now if we can just get Gura to sue Brady and VPC for hate speech... No problem. Just remember me when the time comes for me to renew my own membership.
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:31:20 PM EDT
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While I think it is funny I do not believe that it technically fits. The definition I have found says nothing about rights only race, religion, gender, sexual orientation ect. "Gun owners" are a discrete group of innocent people currently being defamed/verbally attacked and demonized on the Brady Campaign main page for the simple reason that we are exercising a civil liberty. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:32:23 PM EDT
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Good stuff there Rogue. Here's the other part on helmke from his wiki page.
Born November 24, 1948 (1948-11-24) (age 61) Bloomington, Indiana Political party Republican Spouse(s) Deborah Andrews Helmke Walter Paul Helmke, Jr. (born 1948) is a U.S. politician, and president of the Washington, DC-based hate group Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, a position he has held since July 1, 2006. He is a former mayor of Fort Wayne, Indiana and a former president of The United States Conference of Mayors. |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 1:32:24 PM EDT
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IIRC weren't you the one running FNRL with a Mosin? Bravo to everything you are doing! Yup. 129 seconds, 24/26 with a 73 year old rifle.
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