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Posted: 3/23/2017 10:00:53 PM EDT
To all. I am tentatively car shopping. I've always been a Toyota guy and doubt any other Makes and Models will sway me into a Ford, Dodge, or Chevrolet. I currently have a 2008 Toyota Tundra 5.7L. It has 200k miles. It's been a great truck. Plenty of room, more power than I'll ever need. Rides nice. In the past I've had a 1st gen 4Runner, FJ40, FJ60, and an FJ80 so I'm good with poor ride quality and and underwhelming passing power.
That said, I've been looking at the Tacomas and Tundras. To get a Tundra I'll have to go pretty high mileage or older to realistically afford the payments. I'm not looking to spend $40k+ on a truck. Are there any known issues with the 3.5L V6? It seems to be a new engine in the Tacoma in 2016 and 2017. Any other issues that I need to be aware of? Thanks for the help. BTW do we have anyone that works for Toyota here? |
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Low gas mileage, 90's style, tow's shit...what's to not to like?
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Used to have a jeep, bought a 2017 tacoma trd 4 months ago. 5k miles on it already, love the thing. On flat roads highways as long as I'm not going 80mph I get 23-24mpg. Will go just about anywhere off road, deep snow, ect. What's not to like?
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No height adjustable seat, crap transmission from what I've heard.
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Not enough truck for the money. It can't tow much, and less interior room than a full size. I'd get a Silverado.
The only thing the tacoma has, is the stupid good resell value. |
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I have a 2017 TRD Sport. Very peppy. Just took a 2500 mile cross country trip. 24mpg. love it
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Majority opinion seems to be Toyota dropped the ball a little on the current gen Tacoma .
More issues Lower quality Less power |
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If you're gonna get crappy mileage, may as well get the tundra. I had a 15 Tacoma and traded it for a 16 tundra.
You're probably looking at a 5k difference between the two new. My Tacoma was 33 and change, tundra was 38. The 5k difference was worth the space and power. |
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They are ugly and if you get one that is hecho en Mexico then you have to let an illegal immigrant live in your home.
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Will it tow a small boat decently? View Quote |
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I had a new Tacoma while my tundra was in the shop. Feels slow, you sit with your feet forward like a go cart. I'd rather buy a used tundra for the same price
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You even crawl control bro? Edit: explanation at 4:00
2016 Toyota Tacoma - Demonstrating Crawl Control |
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I'm okay with the appearance. I like the sharp edges of the new Tacoma and 4Runners.
How are the 6-speed manual transmissions now? I know the old manuals used to be the best option. My boat is small. 16x48 aluminum john boat with 25HP outboard. My Tundra pulls it like it's not there. As far as fuel mileage i'm getting 15 combined with the Tundra right now. I can get 18 on everyday driving if I stay out of the city driving. I'm looking for quality issues, the comfort issues like some have brought up, etc. |
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I'm okay with the appearance. I like the sharp edges of the new Tacoma and 4Runners. How are the 6-speed manual transmissions now? I know the old manuals used to be the best option. My boat is small. 16x48 aluminum john boat with 25HP outboard. My Tundra pulls it like it's not there. As far as fuel mileage i'm getting 15 combined with the Tundra right now. I can get 18 on everyday driving if I stay out of the city driving. I'm looking for quality issues, the comfort issues like some have brought up, etc. View Quote |
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Lots of threads about the new trans and engines needing to "learn" your driving habits. I have had 0 issues with mine, almost 30k miles, and i have towed with it. Worked fine for my 6' yard trailer slap full of wet debris.
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If the transmission/engine has to learn how you drive what happens if your wife drives your truck for the weekend?
I just can't get into some of these new things these cars and trucks do. Start stop sitting at a red light or shutting off cylinders or learning how you drive to shift. |
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Looks wise they are really long in the tooth, but there are great deals on 15 and 16 Frontiers right now, and if you get the 6spd you've got a cock solid drivetrain. But as many have said, if you're going to get a gasser, a tundra/silverado/f150 etc is a lot lot lot more actual truck, and the mileage is pretty close. I'd rather have a big SUV than a small-ish truck, but thats just me.
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Those that say "low gas mileage" don't know shit. 2016 with a v6, absolutely no issues. Avg. 24.4 on my current tank. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337946/20170218-091252-148889.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337946/20160402-132121-164259.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337946/20170314-211456-165953.jpg View Quote |
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You even crawl control bro? Edit: explanation at 4:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19BNRvuNLWE View Quote Also. Rear drum brakes last for 300K because the fuckers are never adjusted properly. |
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Go drive one and it should deter you from buying. I've been a long time Toyota owner and had planned on buying a Tacoma last year but I thought it was a POS after taking test drives in 2 different trucks. I wanted to like it because I think it's one of the best looking Tacoma's they've produced since the 99' Tacoma TRD I owned. The 3.5 was gutless and the transmission didn't shift well in either of the trucks I drove. I also found the the seating position to be too high and it wasn't adjustable. I quickly ruled it out and went and test drove a 16' Tundra which I liked a lot but I couldn't find a dealer that could get me a crewmax TRD version with a split bench. I left the dealership frustrated and stopped by a Ford dealer of all places to drive a F150 and knew immediately it was the truck I had to have. I miss my old Tacoma and 4Runner but this F150 is a lot better than the current Toyota's IMO. Go drive one right after taking a Tacoma for a test drive and see for yourself. Both EB's and the V8 are all awesome and ton's better than the POS 3.5 in the Tacoma's.
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To all. I am tentatively car shopping. I've always been a Toyota guy and doubt any other Makes and Models will sway me into a Ford, Dodge, or Chevrolet. I currently have a 2008 Toyota Tundra 5.7L. It has 200k miles. It's been a great truck. Plenty of room, more power than I'll ever need. Rides nice. In the past I've had a 1st gen 4Runner, FJ40, FJ60, and an FJ80 so I'm good with poor ride quality and and underwhelming passing power. That said, I've been looking at the Tacomas and Tundras. To get a Tundra I'll have to go pretty high mileage or older to realistically afford the payments. I'm not looking to spend $40k+ on a truck. Are there any known issues with the 3.5L V6? It seems to be a new engine in the Tacoma in 2016 and 2017. Any other issues that I need to be aware of? Thanks for the help. BTW do we have anyone that works for Toyota here? View Quote |
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I've got a 2017 4dr, 4X4 V6 (Off road) that was built 2/17..First Tacoma I've ever had. Have 2500 miles so far. I needed a truck for non-truck reasons, don't tow, don't really off road per se, but I wanted the option to run to the snow and I car camp so it seemed like a good buy. Got a good deal on it (over the SR5 and Sport) so I'm happy with features that I may or may not use. Gas mileage was a little lower that I thought but I'm coming from a Honda Civic so that's to be expected.
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Forgot to mention my F150 also came equipped with a rear locker just like I had in my 99' Tacoma. But unlike the Tacoma, it doesn't have to be in 4lo to use. I can be in 2wd, 4hi, or 4lo. The Tundra doesn't offer a locker option in any of their packages including the TRD PRO.
The Tacoma has the resale and better off-road capabillity but it's smaller with less cargo, payload, and towing capacity while having near the same price tag and MPG ratings of a fullsize. I don't see how anyone could go from a Tundra to a Tacoma and be happy. |
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I recently went from a 08 Tacoma I bought new to a Tundra. Don't buy the Tacoma. It'll tow a small boat fine but I think you will be disappointed coming from a Tundra. I loved, loved, loved my Taco until I drove a full size truck and realized what I was missing.
ETA: I get better fuel economy with the 5.7 Tundra than I did with the V6 Tacoma in every situation: highway, city and towing. The Tacoma had 6" of lift and 34" tires though. The Tundra is Stock. |
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You need to visit tacomaworld.com View Quote Also, if you're curious about actual mileage instead of what various people's lie-ometers are reporting, head on over to Fuelly and look at the averages for the 2016 3.5L crew cab. Then, out of curiosity, check out the 2016 F-150 crewmax with 2.7 ecoboost. |
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The reviews on them are not something that Toyota is proud of.
Ride and ergo's seem to be the biggest complaint with initial quality, the mechanicals on them is a whole different story. Our sister dealer (Toyota store) is still replacing engines on them under warranty, not all of them that they have sold but one in five is coming back and Toyota has a "don't ask don't tell" campaign on them. They are trying to avoid a full blown recall on them, which is nothing new for Toyota (I worked with Toyota for several years, it's nothing new with them). Toyota is losing market share on the Tacoma line in a big way, they are now tied (as of March 1 2017) with GM and their Colorado/Canyon offerings, something that Toyota scoffed at 2 years ago. 50% of the folks that are trading in trucks on the GM revivals are Tacoma owners. Brand loyalty on the Tacoma is dropping like a rock, Toyota fucked up a REALLY GOOD TRUCK. |
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Love the size , hate the extreme lack of power and the pathetic mpg.
2016 3.5 boost fx4 ford is the answer |
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I'm a diehard Tacoma guy. With that said the 3rd gen is garbage IMO. I thought I wanted a 2017 TRD Pro until I actually drove a new Tacoma. Slow and too weak for my comfort on the interstate. It struggles to pass at highway speeds.
I bought a lightly used 2015 TRD Pro instead. Attached File |
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I got lit up on here by the Tacoma mafia for mentioning it here but I know two people with 15+ Tacomas and both have had issues with them.
One had electrical issues, the other had transmission problems. Granted, both are 2016s and new models from any manufacturer typically have teething issues. I have owned the last two generations of pickup/hilux, 2 first gen tacomas and currently own a 2nd gen Tacoma and 3 80s trucks. The quality of every aspect of them has declined as the years go on. Granted, the newer ones have more power, features and comfort. But it just feels like Toyota is losing or has lost their way with these trucks. Admittedly some of this is from trying to comply with competing government restrictions (fuel economy, emissions, safety) but it is happening IMO. |
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There's not really much difference in price between a Tundra and a Tacoma, is there?
Base Tundra starts at $30K and ranges up to the $47K Platinum. Base Tacoma starts at $24K and ranges up to the $41K TRD Pro. If you like the Tundra you've got, replace it with a new one you can afford and drive it for 200K miles. |
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I have a 2006 access cab TRD Sport I bought new. It's been the best truck I have had (knocks on wood). I'm sitting at 125k but only put about 8k miles a year now since I work from home. The plan is (knocking on wood again) for it to make another 8-9 years as trouble free as it can. Just changed the rear end fluid and coolant the other day.
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There's not really much difference in price between a Tundra and a Tacoma, is there? Base Tundra starts at $30K and ranges up to the $47K Platinum. Base Tacoma starts at $24K and ranges up to the $41K TRD Pro. If you like the Tundra you've got, replace it with a new one you can afford and drive it for 200K miles. View Quote |
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Show me a 41K TRD PRO Tacoma. I see them at 44K msrp. I bought my 2017 TRD PRO Tundra for 47K plus 2k in options. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There's not really much difference in price between a Tundra and a Tacoma, is there? Base Tundra starts at $30K and ranges up to the $47K Platinum. Base Tacoma starts at $24K and ranges up to the $41K TRD Pro. If you like the Tundra you've got, replace it with a new one you can afford and drive it for 200K miles. So, you agree there's not really much difference in price. |
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I went with the 4Runner, was considering the Tacoma, but they newer ones have a smaller engine and the back seat was changed making it less comfortable - to me.
The Tacoma is a nice vehicle, I just ended up liking the 4Runner more. |
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Too small. Overpriced. Quality isn't what it used to be.
ETA: I drive a Toyota. |
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