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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:39:41 PM EDT
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Of course
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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:41:07 PM EDT
[#2]
that was fast.
if one of their officers shot me under similar circumstances, I'd expect weeks to go by before anything happened. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:43:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Why would anyone want that job anymore, just isn't worth it.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:43:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Did her a favor because she now can't be interviewed.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:44:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would anyone want that job anymore, just isn't worth it. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:46:20 PM EDT
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Saw that, I guess no grand jury? Gotta head off any protests by rushing a charge.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:48:14 PM EDT
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Of course What do you mean "of course"? Since 2007 only 2 officers in Oklahoma have been charged in the 162 police involved shooting deaths. It doesn't seem like a foregone conclusion that a police officer will face charges in the death of someone that they have shot. http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/crimewatch/since-two-officers-have-been-prosecuted-in-fatal-oklahoma-police/article_e507b8b2-88c3-5708-bb47-279bbd895a5f.html |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:49:00 PM EDT
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Shoulda used her drop gun like the STL cop. She could have stayed free for another couple years at least.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:54:08 PM EDT
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What do you mean "of course"? Since 2007 only 2 officers in Oklahoma have been charged in the 162 police involved shooting deaths. It doesn't seem like a foregone conclusion that a police officer will face charges in the death of someone that they have shot. http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/crimewatch/since-two-officers-have-been-prosecuted-in-fatal-oklahoma-police/article_e507b8b2-88c3-5708-bb47-279bbd895a5f.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course What do you mean "of course"? Since 2007 only 2 officers in Oklahoma have been charged in the 162 police involved shooting deaths. It doesn't seem like a foregone conclusion that a police officer will face charges in the death of someone that they have shot. http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/crimewatch/since-two-officers-have-been-prosecuted-in-fatal-oklahoma-police/article_e507b8b2-88c3-5708-bb47-279bbd895a5f.html You are genuinely retarded if you did not understand his meaning. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:55:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Sympathetic gun fire due to the taser
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Posted: 9/22/2016 4:58:32 PM EDT
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What he said! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would anyone want that job anymore, just isn't worth it. I can't say that I haven't asked myself the same question. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:02:29 PM EDT
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Waiting for Extorris to chime in, this is one good reason for a union. I can sympathize for a job that puts your life at risk and then in hindsight everybody wants to fuck you in the ass for it.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:06:11 PM EDT
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Waiting for Extorris to chime in, this is one good reason for a union. I can sympathize for a job that puts your life at risk and then in hindsight everybody wants to fuck you in the ass for it. Tulsa PD has a union. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:07:54 PM EDT
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A long, long way from the 1921 Tulsa riots, no?
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:08:13 PM EDT
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Waiting for Extorris to chime in, this is one good reason for a union. Our union couldn't do shit if the DA wanted to charge us. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:11:13 PM EDT
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Sympathetic gun fire due to the taser She choked? |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:13:24 PM EDT
[#17]
3 busloads of protestors inbound from Ferguson, according to OHP.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:13:54 PM EDT
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She choked? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sympathetic gun fire due to the taser She choked? Im theorizing she probably had her finger on the trigger. The taser went pop and she flinched and fired. Shes the only one who shot, and from my understanding only fired one round. In the extended aerial footage you can see her freaking out behind a cruiser. I mean I understand she just shot someone, but this adds to my theory Its only a theory however |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:14:24 PM EDT
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So sick of this bullshit.
Non compliant, resisting arrest, may have or may not have reached. No fucks given. When you resist arrest, bad shit will happen! |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:15:08 PM EDT
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Shelby, who joined the Tulsa Police Department in December 2011, was en route to a domestic violence call when she encountered Crutcher's vehicle abandoned on a city street, straddling the center line. Shelby did not activate her patrol car's dashboard camera, so no footage exists of what first happened between the two before other officers arrived. 
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:15:19 PM EDT
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Morons forget that one of the reasons we have police it to protect criminals from the much rougher justice they would recieve at the hands of pissed off victims.
Google South American street justice and you will see robbers doused in gas and set on fire, a bit worse than getting pepper sprayed. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:15:30 PM EDT
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Why would anyone want that job anymore, just isn't worth it. Glad I'm not a cop anymore. 4 years now in the transportation industry. They can keep that shit just fine. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:15:34 PM EDT
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If she only had Capt. Kirk's phaser (and the suspect didn't smash his head on the way down).
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:16:08 PM EDT
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3 busloads of protestors inbound from Ferguson, according to OHP. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I hope for y'alls sake that turns out to be BS... |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:16:57 PM EDT
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So what happens when he comes back as having PCP in his system?
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:17:56 PM EDT
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Why would anyone want that job anymore, just isn't worth it. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:18:52 PM EDT
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Why would anyone want that job anymore, just isn't worth it. Because it doesn't happen to the vast majority of police officers.... 
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:19:04 PM EDT
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Something something, finger off the trigger, something. Also, when you only have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
That's pure speculation on my part though. I'm not sure charges are warranted, it's not like the guy was acting cooperative. He has to have at least some responsibility for what happened. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:19:18 PM EDT
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3 busloads of protestors inbound from Ferguson, according to OHP. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Fuck 
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:19:53 PM EDT
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I really get the sense that there's been a change in the way the process works and we should probably get used to it. If there is a shooting and the mob demands accountability (regardless of facts) then DAs will press charges every single time to put the burden on the Grand Jury as opposed to themselves. This also gives the mob the "look, they're doing something!" in the here and now moment. By the time the GJ says no bill then the mobs' heads have cooled and no one goes and burns down the neighborhood.
So far I think we've been lucky in that there seems to have been a good amount of common sense coming out of the courts in these matters. If the manslaughter charges ever start sticking (in these questionable cases) then I think you're going to see a big change in the way LE operates |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:21:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what happens when he comes back as having PCP in his system? What happened there last night? Id be a little more concerned with what would happen if he didnt. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:21:36 PM EDT
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It's no longer worth it to be a cop.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:22:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what happens when he comes back as having PCP in his system? Nothing. Being high on a drug isn't a valid reason to shoot someone. She was either justified or not by his actions at the time she shot him. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:23:46 PM EDT
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Did her a favor because she now can't be interviewed. No offense, Mike, but I don't know much about this sort of thing and nobody else has addressed it. For all I know you're entirely right. Is there anyone else on this board with experience with this sort of thing that can confirm or deny this assertion? Anything for those like me to search for so we can get an explanation backed by facts? Thanks. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:25:44 PM EDT
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Charges???? For shooting this nice man......
http://conservativetribune.com/truth-crutcher-bad-for-media/ |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:26:23 PM EDT
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No offense, Mike, but I don't know much about this sort of thing and nobody else has addressed it. For all I know you're entirely right. Is there anyone else on this board with experience with this sort of thing that can confirm or deny this assertion? Anything for those like me to search for so we can get an explanation backed by facts? Thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did her a favor because she now can't be interviewed. No offense, Mike, but I don't know much about this sort of thing and nobody else has addressed it. For all I know you're entirely right. Is there anyone else on this board with experience with this sort of thing that can confirm or deny this assertion? Anything for those like me to search for so we can get an explanation backed by facts? Thanks. If she's an idiot and has waived her rights anyone from DA's office can question her. At least in Texas she has to cooperate with IA investigation and is allowed to have Union Rep/Attorney present. ETA: For IA investigations officers are or should be given their Garrity Warning |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:28:30 PM EDT
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Just heard that protests are happening at 71st and 169. For our Tulsa members you might want to avoid that area.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:29:18 PM EDT
[#38]
I would not be surprised if this is just racial politics. She may get screwed like Darren Wilson was.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:30:26 PM EDT
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I really get the sense that there's been a change in the way the process works and we should probably get used to it. If there is a shooting and the mob demands accountability (regardless of facts) then DAs will press charges every single time, unless the shootee is white then no one gives a fuck, to put the burden on the Grand Jury as opposed to themselves. This also gives the mob the "look, they're doing something!" in the here and now moment. By the time the GJ says no bill then the mobs' heads have cooled and no one goes and burns down the neighborhood. So far I think we've been lucky in that there seems to have been a good amount of common sense coming out of the courts in these matters. If the manslaughter charges ever start sticking (in these questionable cases) then I think you're going to see a big change in the way LE operates FIFY |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:35:44 PM EDT
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I would not be surprised if this is just racial politics. She may get screwed like Darren Wilson was. Maybe. Or maybe the DA talked to the other officers that were there and looked at the body cams (were there body cams??) and decided to move forward with charges. We'll find out someday. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:39:18 PM EDT
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It's no longer worth it to be a cop. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:40:58 PM EDT
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Now if a Bull was involved they would take Months. No Bulls in Tulsa?
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:42:13 PM EDT
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Why would anyone want that job anymore, just isn't worth it. You're just as likely to face it as a cop if you plug America's next upcoming cancer researcher. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:42:26 PM EDT
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Now if a Bull was involved they would take Months. No Bulls in Tulsa? 
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:42:28 PM EDT
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Just heard that protests are happening at 71st and 169. For our Tulsa members you might want to avoid that area. This not the hood, this is south Tulsa in the middle of the a huge shopping area and nice large homes. Glad I moved a few to bfe a few years ago. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:42:47 PM EDT
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So what happens when he comes back as having PCP in his system? Not relevant. The issue will be: -whether the officer's fear of imminent death was reasonable? Given the closed car door/window, I'd say the DA decided it wasn't reasonable. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:42:53 PM EDT
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In on one
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:45:28 PM EDT
[#48]
ah well, wrong again
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:46:03 PM EDT
[#49]
So what's the penalty for 1st manslaughter in
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:47:06 PM EDT
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This not the hood, this is south Tulsa in the middle of the a huge shopping area and nice large homes. Glad I moved a few to bfe a few years ago. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just heard that protests are happening at 71st and 169. For our Tulsa members you might want to avoid that area. This not the hood, this is south Tulsa in the middle of the a huge shopping area and nice large homes. Glad I moved a few to bfe a few years ago. Yeah I know. I drive by there every day. It's also a major traffic area. BLM loves to fuck up rush hour. |
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