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Posted: 1/20/2016 3:47:12 PM EDT
Basically this thread got side tracked so I'm starting this one.
No one has the answers, as of right now no one can prove what happened but I'm sure that most of us believe something in regards to the start, so discuss away. I can honestly say I have no idea how all of this started, but I enjoy reading the theories regarding it. |
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This isn't a particularly interesting subject.
You'll have people who prefer unanswered questions and people who prefer unquestioned answers. |
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The Ekpyrotic Model of the Universe proposes that our current universe arose from a collision of two three-dimensional worlds (branes) in a space with an extra (fourth) spatial dimension. http://wwwphy.princeton.edu/~steinh/npr/ |
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God had a massive ejaculation known as the Big Bang. We're all just floating around in his sperm.
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In the beginning there was nothing and it exploded into something.
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Each molecule in a smudge of excrement on a piece of toilet paper floating out to sea is an entire universe.
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Personally, I think it's all about me, and y'all are actors on my stage.
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Quoted: My theory is that the universe was created sometime around my third birthday. That's about as far back as I can remember and nobody has ever proven it wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I wasn't there, so I don't know. My theory is that the universe was created sometime around my third birthday. That's about as far back as I can remember and nobody has ever proven it wrong. So we are all in your head? |
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First there was nothing. Then the universe sprang into existence. It exploded rapidly into the vast voids of space, creating time, mass, EMR and nuclear forces as it went. Then electriciy sprang into existence and electrified a pool of protein which was swimming nearby, created some DNA as it went and thereby accidentally creating life. Frogs sprang from the pool and moved to Africa. It grew legs and turned into a monkey, which learned to walk, talk and have sex. A trillion monkeys had sex with each other and 4 billion years later here we are. Life as we know it.
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I refuse to believe anything that does not have concrete evidence.
I entertain the notions of both a creator or random chance. |
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I wasn't there, so I don't know. My theory is that the universe was created sometime around my third birthday. That's about as far back as I can remember and nobody has ever proven it wrong. So we are all in your head? The eternal soul isn't bound by time. If reincarnation was correct, there isn't any reason the same soul couldn't be inhabiting the same universe in multiple places at the same time. So maybe we're not all in his head, maybe we're all the same dude. |
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You're half right. It's about me. When I travel...I am actually stationary, and the world moves under me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Personally, I think it's all about me, and y'all are actors on my stage. You're half right. It's about me. When I travel...I am actually stationary, and the world moves under me. I thought that was for Chuck Norris..... |
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What if the physical universe is just a constructed representation for a higher realm that we cannot comprehend? Like the bookcase in Interstellar.
Looking at different religions we find that Light, Sun, Darkness, Water, Fruit, .etc and other life giving things are used to describe complex divine properties. |
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The universe has always existed. The big bang did not happen. We are God. http://img10.deviantart.net/d070/i/2009/217/5/7/baphomet_by_shapudl.jpg View Quote Botsworth? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1756226_Are_we_God_.html |
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God said let there be light and we had the Big Bang. View Quote I got to hand it the Jews, they did invent (or borrow ?) a sophisticated creation myth. Most cultures have creation stories in which the gods create the world out of materials already present. The creator gods and materials were the objects of their familiar environment, the Coyote for the AmerIndians or - the universal building material of the middle east - mud for the Egyptians and Babylonians. They had a hard time conceiving of a state in which there was no material existence. The "stuff" of the universe was just laying around and the gods merely imposed structure and order upon chaotic matter and energies. The ancient Hebrews however conceived of a universal god which created the entire universe out of no-thing, which was a radical re-conception of the cosmos and man's place in it. |
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In the beginning there was God. In order to create anything, God would have had to create it from Himself, since there would be no substance except for Him. In order for God to truly have companionship, the beings he created would have to have free will, and the only being with free will was God, so God divided Himself into innumerable souls. In order for those souls to be something other than mere clones of God, He created uncountable universes within which souls could incarnate and experience different things. In order to keep the whole thing from flying apart (i.e. what happens if God opposes God on something), God created the concept of love, which is a recognition of the inherent oneness of all things.
Anyways, that's my take. |
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So the universe is a endless place filled with all kinds of cosmic floatsam interacting randomly right? There is no end and no beginning? People just try to pinpoint the beginning because its how life is for us start and finish. I think people like to come up with theories about gods or the big bang or whatever else because the thought of us being a beyond insignificant smudge in the universe it too much to bear. So they try to put it into terms they can cope with.
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Quoted: The Ekpyrotic Model of the Universe proposes that our current universe arose from a collision of two three-dimensional worlds (branes) in a space with an extra (fourth) spatial dimension. http://wwwphy.princeton.edu/~steinh/npr/ View Quote |
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In the beginning there was nothing, except the one thing that made everything.
Some folks call that one thing nature, and other folks say that that one thing is sentient and name that one thing God. I don't know the answer, but I've never been witness to the sentience described as God, so I remain skeptical of that explanation. I think the more interesting question is where did the rules of nature, i.e., physics, come from? Well, that's just the way it works, MotorMouth. Sure, but why? |
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Quoted: First there was nothing. Then the universe sprang into existence. It exploded rapidly into the vast voids of space, creating time, mass, EMR and nuclear forces as it went. Then electriciy sprang into existence and electrified a pool of protein which was swimming nearby, created some DNA as it went and thereby accidentally creating life. Frogs sprang from the pool and moved to Africa. It grew legs and turned into a monkey, which learned to walk, talk and have sex. A trillion monkeys had sex with each other and 4 billion years later here we are. Life as we know it. View Quote Well then how come we don't have any monkeys that talk? I mean we have stupid monkeys and then highly intelligent humans(for the most part). Don't you think there would be something in between? How cool would it be to have monkey slaves? |
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Well then how come we don't have any monkeys that talk? I mean we have stupid monkeys and then highly intelligent humans(for the most part). Don't you think there would be something in between? How cool would it be to have monkey slaves? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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First there was nothing. Then the universe sprang into existence. It exploded rapidly into the vast voids of space, creating time, mass, EMR and nuclear forces as it went. Then electriciy sprang into existence and electrified a pool of protein which was swimming nearby, created some DNA as it went and thereby accidentally creating life. Frogs sprang from the pool and moved to Africa. It grew legs and turned into a monkey, which learned to walk, talk and have sex. A trillion monkeys had sex with each other and 4 billion years later here we are. Life as we know it. Well then how come we don't have any monkeys that talk? I mean we have stupid monkeys and then highly intelligent humans(for the most part). Don't you think there would be something in between? How cool would it be to have monkey slaves? Modern primates and homo sapiens had common ancestors. There were not "monkeys" as we know back during the divergence of species, just similar ancestors. And we do have monkey slaves, ever been to a zoo? Not as cool as having a monkey butler to grab a beer for you but hey, keeping animals in forced captivity for our entertainment isn't far off from slavery, not that they know any better, stupid monkeys. |
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I refuse to believe anything that does not have concrete evidence. I entertain the notions of both a creator or random chance. View Quote That doesn't even make sense my friend. You have no concrete evidence of how you and I became what we are, yet here we are. You must believe in SOMETHING? No? |
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From the other thread.
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TescoVee. You are a scientist. Others have declined the opportunity to explain to this poor ignoramus, How did it all start? I will yield to your scientific genius. View Quote On the very slim chance that you actually want to learn some things, read the links below. It has hundreds (it seems like) of source links. Read those as well. Follow the links in those articles as well. Just reading the main link will give you a pretty decent understanding of the origin of The Universe. I will also add a link for the Chronology of the Universe so you can see the minute timeframes involved in the formation during the Planc Epoch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_the_universe We have these theories proven back to the early Planc time with the math and observations and even General Relativity. Although those "proofs" break down during the Planc Era, so if someone comes along with a new theory that is provable with math that works when the laws of physics breakdown and will reconcile with quantum mechanics we will know what happened even further back. I'm not sure anyone expects that to happen, but a lot of really smart people are working on it every day. Of course that will also probably make them the most famous physicist on the planet if they figure out a theory that unifies Relativity with Quantum. |
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Must we? I say the best course is to disbelieve everything. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That doesn't even make sense my friend. You have no concrete evidence of how you and I became what we are, yet here we are. You must believe in SOMETHING? No? Must we? I say the best course is to disbelieve everything. Well, I guess that would work also. |
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That doesn't even make sense my friend. You have no concrete evidence of how you and I became what we are, yet here we are. You must believe in SOMETHING? No? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I refuse to believe anything that does not have concrete evidence. I entertain the notions of both a creator or random chance. That doesn't even make sense my friend. You have no concrete evidence of how you and I became what we are, yet here we are. You must believe in SOMETHING? No? No. It really isn't necessary to believe in anything more than "The best model given the evidence seems to be X" Not knowing something really doesn't require you to make something up to believe in. |
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krpind, What the heck are you doing here? I thought I'd leave you behind.
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The Universe is an exploding firecracker God lit and tossed aside just for shits and giggles.
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