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Posted: 3/3/2015 12:01:50 PM EDT
White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest is defending a proposal by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms to ban AR-15 ammunition. Earnest calls it a “common sense” approach.
“This seems to be an area where everyone should agree, that if there are armor piercing bullets available that can fit into easily concealed weapons, that it puts our law enforcement at considerable more risk,” Earnest explained when questioned about the ban by White House reporter Fred Lucas. The proposed “framework” would ban the 5.56-millimeter “M855 green tip” rifle bullet to prevent the ammunition from being used in handguns. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/02/white-house-defends-common-sense-ar-15-ammunition-ban-everyone-should-agree/ Common sense. |
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They need to start using a new word when they are fucking us. Anytime I hear common sense my butthole clinches.
It's Pavlovian at this point. |
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Doesn't the law on armor piercing ammo specifically state that it applies to handgun ammo only? ANY rifle round is going straight through soft body armor
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Interesting move, comment from the admin basically confirms that they at least had a hand in the decision, if not more. I mean, we all knew where it came from, but that makes it more obvious. I'd have thought they'd rather keep their distance to make sure it stayed "behind the scenes."
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So by that explanation. I shouldn't be able to use it in the AR pistol and I should be able to own it to use in my rifle.
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White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest is defending a proposal by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms to ban AR-15 ammunition. Earnest calls it a “common sense” approach. “This seems to be an area where everyone should agree, that if there are armor piercing bullets available that can fit into easily concealed weapons, that it puts our law enforcement at considerable more risk,” Earnest explained when questioned about the ban by White House reporter Fred Lucas. The proposed “framework” would ban the 5.56-millimeter “M855 green tip” rifle bullet to prevent the ammunition from being used in handguns. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/02/white-house-defends-common-sense-ar-15-ammunition-ban-everyone-should-agree/ Common sense. View Quote ok Obama. show me an easily concealable AR15 pistol and I will concede. |
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"We're going to ban all firearms, weapons, knives, pointy sticks. We're going to ship you via rail to camps. It's really just common sense."
Everything's common sense. |
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Let's all have a stiff drink once this asshole leaves office. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes I can imagine the Emergency Rooms nationwide being flooded with alcohol overdoses in January 2017 Quoted:
Doesn't the law on armor piercing ammo specifically state that it applies to handgun ammo only? ANY rifle round is going straight through soft body armor I am sure this is the end game. |
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That comment can be used to ban lead ammo as well.
The meat of the power of his words and the intent of the statement lay within the "easily concealed weapons". For a long time they have been pushing to classify armor piercing as anything that can defeat a kevlar vest. They just havent set the precedent yet. |
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Why are they allowed to say false bullshit like this? Logic bombs shoulda be dropped.
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There are no "common sense" arguments for infringing on the 2nd amendment.
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White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest is defending a proposal by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms to ban AR-15 ammunition. Earnest calls it a “common sense” approach. “This seems to be an area where everyone should agree, that if there are armor piercing bullets available that can fit into easily concealed weapons, that it puts our law enforcement at considerable more risk,” Earnest explained when questioned about the ban by White House reporter Fred Lucas. The proposed “framework” would ban the 5.56-millimeter “M855 green tip” rifle bullet to prevent the ammunition from being used in handguns. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/02/white-house-defends-common-sense-ar-15-ammunition-ban-everyone-should-agree/ Common sense. View Quote |
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Except the "armor piercing" bullets he's referring to don't "fit" into "easily concealable" weapons.
God this kind of ignorance masquerading as an appeal to public safety is infuriating. |
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And tell us, oh common sense one, how many officers have had their lives taken with this "cop killer" ammo you want to ban?
And then tell us of all the "non-armor penetrating" rife ammo, please Mr. Common sense. |
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ok Obama. show me an easily concealable AR15 pistol and I will concede. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest is defending a proposal by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms to ban AR-15 ammunition. Earnest calls it a “common sense” approach. “This seems to be an area where everyone should agree, that if there are armor piercing bullets available that can fit into easily concealed weapons, that it puts our law enforcement at considerable more risk,” Earnest explained when questioned about the ban by White House reporter Fred Lucas. The proposed “framework” would ban the 5.56-millimeter “M855 green tip” rifle bullet to prevent the ammunition from being used in handguns. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/02/white-house-defends-common-sense-ar-15-ammunition-ban-everyone-should-agree/ Common sense. ok Obama. show me an easily concealable AR15 pistol and I will concede. Well you can take it all apart and put all the pieces in fifteen different pockets. Wouldn't surprise me to hear that come outta their mouths. |
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FBHO.
The question is, will he veto a bill that comes to his desk reversing the ATF decision? Do the pro-gun forces have the votes in Congress to override a veto? If the next president is a Republican, will he reverse this? These are the real questions. |
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Since when is an AR pistol easily concealed? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"...easily concealed weapons..." I can conceal it under a long coat. But my nickname is 'Bigfoot', Ban long coats, instead |
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Can you imagine if we could repeal every law described as "Common Sense."
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Except the "armor piercing" bullets he's referring to don't "fit" into "easily concealable" weapons. God this kind of ignorance masquerading as an appeal to public safety is infuriating. View Quote And in a 'pistol' length barrel I am going to say their 'armor piercing' quality is marginal as well. Not to mention reduced accuracy and increased aim-time trying to one hand an AR15. TRG |
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Maybe they could ship some to mexican drug carte... oh wait...
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That makes perfect sense. Lets pass a law to prevent M855 from being used in Handguns.
Okay, now how do we ensure that they can still be used in rifles? Oh right, it's a rifle cartridge. Just because a handgun can USE a rifle cartridge doesn't mean that it is designed too. I can make a .30-06 pistol too, should they ban all .30-06 ammo? |
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The bottom line is that M855 does not have a "core consisting entirely of steel" and therefore the law does not apply.
The ATF interpretation is against the law, and there is no legal justification for the ban. This is what needs to be stressed and used. The administration is again changing the narrative, breaking the law, and lying about it. There is a storm coming, and it is the worst storm this country has ever seen. |
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FBHO. The question is, will he veto a bill that comes to his desk reversing the ATF decision? no Do the pro-gun forces have the votes in Congress to override a veto? maybe, but they won't If the next president is a Republican, will he reverse this? nope These are the real questions. View Quote |
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That makes perfect sense. Lets pass a law to prevent M855 from being used in Handguns. Okay, now how do we ensure that they can still be used in rifles? Oh right, it's a rifle cartridge. Just because a handgun can USE a rifle cartridge doesn't mean that it is designed too. I can make a .30-06 pistol too, should they ban all .30-06 ammo? View Quote Write them and see. |
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"Proposed" my ass. Why don't they just beating around the bush?
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Something else that I've noticed is that every single ban or restriction on firearms or ammunition has be justified on the basis of the firearms being dangerous to government officials.
We all know the quotes from the founding fathers, include the very authors of the 2nd amendment. Their justification for a ban is in direct conflict with it's purpose. It's almost comedic. "What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." |
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So by that explanation. I shouldn't be able to use it in the AR pistol and I should be able to own it to use in my rifle. View Quote By their explanation, since it can be used in a pistol, it should be banned. Probably a good thing those retards haven't woken up and figured out the number of rifle calibers you can get in a TC Encore. The list would grow considerably. |
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