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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:03:34 AM EDT
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Do you need them?
Personally I would use them as a last resort. 2nd opinions and all that jazz. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:04:27 AM EDT
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Only as a last resort to put you on the path to health. Be very careful.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:09:20 AM EDT
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me.
Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:10:30 AM EDT
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Not to mention once you go down the SSRI rabbit hole, there's no coming back out without a lot of BS... |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:11:16 AM EDT
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:14:12 AM EDT
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Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. You haven't been paying attention if you think there's no danger here. I'm about as skeptical as they come to tinfoil hat nonsense. This is real. The example that stuck in my mind was all the politicians wanting to "close the mental health loophole" after Adam Lanza. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:16:18 AM EDT
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Allegedly, a guy my parents knew had his wife stab him to death in his sleep while under the influence of some medicine, not sure which kind.
This was some years back, but it always made me curious as to if those drugs would make other quality's emerge that might otherwise stay hidden. 
Sure if everyone who took them axe murdered folk, they'd not get approved, but I still wonder about the odds.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:18:35 AM EDT
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You haven't been paying attention if you think there's no danger here. I'm about as skeptical as they come to tinfoil hat nonsense. This is real. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. You haven't been paying attention if you think there's no danger here. I'm about as skeptical as they come to tinfoil hat nonsense. This is real. It is well known anti-depressants give you just enough will-power to manage to kill yourself. It happens... a lot. A whole lot. As a male firearms owner, there's pretty good odds what method would be used. Males are 5X more likely to off themselves than females. And they do it with guns. So then! what's a great idea for The State to help out with that.... |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:20:34 AM EDT
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I have never seen or heard of an example where a person who wasn't a danger to them self or others was deemed a prohibited person via a court order, antidepressants or not.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:21:40 AM EDT
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You're just going to mess up natural body processes. You have the neurochemicals in your body to make your entire existence a pleasurable one. You just have to trigger them by doing things you enjoy.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:22:50 AM EDT
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I take 3-5 miles of them every morning.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:24:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're just going to mess up natural body processes. You have the neurochemicals in your body to make your entire existence a pleasurable one. You just have to trigger them by doing things you enjoy. Every time you drink a cup of coffee, smoke a cigarette, have a soda, have a beer, etc. etc. etc. you're "messing up natural body processes". That said, I'll stick to that shit and avoid the antidepressants... |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:24:51 AM EDT
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I took them for a short period his year. Be aware there are strong anti depressents and ones that are more mild. After I was diagnosed with massive brain damage, then MS the Dr. thought it would be a good idea to start on them regardless. It turned out to be a temporary disease that is a one time instance. I took them for 6 months and then got off of them in the taper the Dr. recommended.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:25:56 AM EDT
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Allegedly, a guy my parents knew had his wife stab him to death in his sleep while under the influence of some medicine, not sure which kind. This was some years back, but it always made me curious as to if those drugs would make other quality's emerge that might otherwise stay hidden.
Sure if everyone who took them axe murdered folk, they'd not get approved, but I still wonder about the odds. Have you ever listened to all the side effects of those antidepressants advertised on TV? "It'll make you happy! (But also possibly want to kill yourself and everyone around you, might give you ass cancer, ebolaids, the flu, derpes, twenty children, addicted to midget porn, and diarrhea . Use carefully. Matter of fact don't use it at all, just pay us.)" Personally, fucking with brain chemistry is the absolute last thing I would ever want to do. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:26:23 AM EDT
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You haven't been paying attention if you think there's no danger here. I'm about as skeptical as they come to tinfoil hat nonsense. This is real. The example that stuck in my mind was all the politicians wanting to "close the mental health loophole" after Adam Lanza. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. You haven't been paying attention if you think there's no danger here. I'm about as skeptical as they come to tinfoil hat nonsense. This is real. The example that stuck in my mind was all the politicians wanting to "close the mental health loophole" after Adam Lanza. So no? Just more internet rumors? I would hate for someone to forgo getting help because they were afraid alex jones would take their guns. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:28:25 AM EDT
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Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. Uhhh... New York? |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:29:07 AM EDT
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Any thoughts? Would you take them? Naw. It's brain rot. I have seen the changes when people go on them for a long time, not worth it imo. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:29:45 AM EDT
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is it wrong that when I read the thread title I went...
"Yay antidepressants!" 
Seriously dude, check out a multivitamin first - something with vitamin B and D. Vitamin D deficiency is a leading cause in just feeling like crud. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:30:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Personally, fucking with brain chemistry is the absolute last thing I would ever want to do. But you do it all the time, just not to the same extreme. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:31:09 AM EDT
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I take 3-5 miles of them every morning. This is the best way to take them. 
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:31:17 AM EDT
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So no? Just more internet rumors? I would hate for someone to forgo getting help because they were afraid alex jones would take their guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. You haven't been paying attention if you think there's no danger here. I'm about as skeptical as they come to tinfoil hat nonsense. This is real. The example that stuck in my mind was all the politicians wanting to "close the mental health loophole" after Adam Lanza. So no? Just more internet rumors? I would hate for someone to forgo getting help because they were afraid alex jones would take their guns. People should absolutely get the help they need. Just not from a doctor that can prescribe meds in any way, unless they absolutely have to. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:35:48 AM EDT
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. Uhhh... New York? Uhh Link? |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:36:39 AM EDT
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People should absolutely get the help they need. Just not from a doctor that can prescribe meds in any way, unless they absolutely have to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. You haven't been paying attention if you think there's no danger here. I'm about as skeptical as they come to tinfoil hat nonsense. This is real. The example that stuck in my mind was all the politicians wanting to "close the mental health loophole" after Adam Lanza. So no? Just more internet rumors? I would hate for someone to forgo getting help because they were afraid alex jones would take their guns. People should absolutely get the help they need. Just not from a doctor that can prescribe meds in any way, unless they absolutely have to. Yes last resort, but scaring people into ruling them out is a terrible idea imho. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:40:17 AM EDT
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is it wrong that when I read the thread title I went... "Yay antidepressants!"
Seriously dude, check out a multivitamin first - something with vitamin B and D. Vitamin D deficiency is a leading cause in just feeling like crud. Vitamin D is a wonder drug. Doc put me on a 100,000 units a week because I was so deficient. I have never felt this good in years. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:46:10 AM EDT
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. Uhhh... New York? Uhh Link? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/nyregion/mental-reports-put-34500-on-new-yorks-no-guns-list.html?_r=0 |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 4:02:56 AM EDT
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I wouldn't. We all go through stages of ups and downs. Some worse than others. I don't doubt that some people need the help, but I also believe they're over prescribed.
My advice is a good diet of "wild" foods and exercise. Bonus if you kill and/or grow the food yourself. But always look to medication as a last resort, even simple stuff like Tylenol. Avoid excessive laziness at all costs. Build something useful and keep your mind in creative mode. TV and other entertainment should be just entertainment, not something to pass the time. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 4:23:09 AM EDT
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. I'm a lazy man with no interest in arguing with anyone. Suffice to say, I recall a multitude of politicians calling for an increased need to make sure guns don't get into the wrong, mentally ill, hands. They had all sorts of interesting suggestions about how to do that. If someone else wants to provide you with links to quotes and shit, that's fine. If not, that's fine too. Don't really care either way. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 4:45:57 AM EDT
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Example not from Alex jones or Drudge? I hear this and often wonder if it is in fact true. Uhhh... New York? Uhh Link? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/nyregion/mental-reports-put-34500-on-new-yorks-no-guns-list.html?_r=0 I read the article and even in NYC anti depressants alone will not lose you your gun rights. Acting like a violent crazy clown will. Again lets not tell someone asking about mental health issues not to say something because infowars made some dumb shit up. Example: "Among the newest cases was a patient who had threatened to kill his partner. “Becomes aggressive and unpredictable, has history of noncompliance with medications,” the narrative said. Two patients had attempted suicide with guns. Another “is exhibiting manic behavior,” the note said. It added that the patient was “not sleeping in the past few days, throwing lit cigarettes and matches around the house,” and had “a history of fire setting.” Still one more involved a man who had threatened a housing office worker if he was not helped immediately and was so agitated that it took six police officers to bring him into the emergency room." |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 4:47:34 AM EDT
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I'm a lazy man with no interest in arguing with anyone. Suffice to say, I recall a multitude of politicians calling for an increased need to make sure guns don't get into the wrong, mentally ill, hands. They had all sorts of interesting suggestions about how to do that. If someone else wants to provide you with links to quotes and shit, that's fine. If not, that's fine too. Don't really care either way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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. I'm a lazy man with no interest in arguing with anyone. Suffice to say, I recall a multitude of politicians calling for an increased need to make sure guns don't get into the wrong, mentally ill, hands. They had all sorts of interesting suggestions about how to do that. If someone else wants to provide you with links to quotes and shit, that's fine. If not, that's fine too. Don't really care either way. While I do enjoy a good argument I am more trying to avoid telling someone not to seek help because a bunch of conspiracy websites say they will lose thier guns. That is simply not the case a far as I have seen. I reserve the right to be wrong.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 5:24:32 AM EDT
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If you really need them they can save your life. I took Amitriptyline for several years, and it worked.
I've since managed to cope with depression without meds, but at that point in life I needed them. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 6:18:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: Any thoughts? Would you take them? If you really need them, you really need them. The question is... do you really need them? |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 6:20:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you really need them they can save your life. I took Amitriptyline for several years, and it worked. I've since managed to cope with depression without meds, but at that point in life I needed them. Finally, the voice of reason. All medicines have side effects. If the risk of said side effects are outweighed by the benefits, they're worth considering. For example, antidepressants are used for depression and anxiety. If you use alcohol to excess to "take the edge off" you are self medicating in a manner that can be better handled by prescription. Alcohol abuse, in my example, is much more of a potential long term health hazard than whatever script you'll get from your doctor. My point? Bring the right tool for the job. If the circumstances fit, take them. You GD experts are engaging it what is known as "the parade of horribles" and should slow your roll on this one, because your paranoia could end up getting somebody hurt. IMO. (from a lawyer who has done a lot of disability cases and has seen them make a significant difference in the quality of people's lives.) |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 6:31:41 AM EDT
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I took Paxil in college and it saved my life. Tried taking Paxil again about 1.5 years ago and it almost cost me everything I own. I left home, abandoned my family/friends, and went pretty much crazy. I called it a "medically induced psychosis." It was extremely fucked up and I wish I could go back in time to re-evaluate my medications. I figured since it worked so well for me in college, it should be great now and that wasn't the case at all.
I am all for head meds and the people who need them usually benefit from them. Speak with a qualified doctor, and speak with another one if you can. Some people's heads are fucked up and the chemical imbalance runs their lives. Just like any other med, there are side effects and educate yourself. Be advised that most head meds have strong sexual side effects. That was about the only plus I had while on Paxil (made me a champ in the sack) Good luck. PM me if you wanna have a more serious discussion about them; I will give you my honest opinion...FWIW |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 6:46:34 AM EDT
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The problem isn't so much in taking them, it's when you stop taking them that all hell breaks loose.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 6:50:07 AM EDT
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I think they do more harm than good. The Warning disclaimers in their own TV ads would seem to support that. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:02:17 AM EDT
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I wouldn't take the advice of those who have no experience and/or are not doctors. I've been on an SSRI for about 5 years now, and it really turned my life around. I'm currently in the process of weaning myself off of them. 5 years ago I was in a bad place, and might not have been able to make it through life without medical assistance.
That said, I did ask the doc about them as a last resort. I suggest to you do the same. They can have negative side affects, but there are many different kinds of antidepressants. You can find one that works for you. Keep in mind counseling and other support systems, exercise and diet are huge. If all else fails, talk to the doctor. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:06:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have never seen or heard of an example where a person who wasn't a danger to them self or others was deemed a prohibited person via a court order, antidepressants or not. I ever understood the "Im going nuts, but Im not going to take meds" angle. What would be worse, people needing help not getting it, or people getting help that will make them a more stable person? |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:07:30 AM EDT
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no way in hell would i take them
seen too many people addicted to their little happy pills. when you chemically enhance your moods...the aftermath can be devastating when you go off them (if you ever can). We have a good friend who we had to do an intervention on due to her being on SOOOOO many diff anti-depressants....as she became used to the effect on one....and normal stuff that all of us face...would make her panic...so she would get another prescription to help with that new situation. Her doc just wrote the scrips I think to get her out of his hair. She overcame this for a bit...but seems to be back on the same path. Some people do not understand that if you want to experience the positive in life...a negative comes along with that...which makes the positive that much sweeter. Kinda like sunshine and clouds...if it's always sunny...you never appreciate it. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:11:58 AM EDT
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no. try exercise instead.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:13:01 AM EDT
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I think they do more harm than good. The Warning disclaimers in their own TV ads would seem to support that. This and I also think that they should only be prescribed by psychiatrists and require regularly scheduled visits to get re-prescribed. Spent a few years working in the mental health field before getting out of that shit 
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:31:29 AM EDT
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Lots of opinions that are not based on facts in this post. Before you take antidepressants see a counselor who practices cognitive therapy. Thoughts, perceptions, and emotional responses are interrelated. The way you see things and many of the thoughts you have affect how you feel. Cognitive therapy can give you a better outlook on life and work well on depression. Changing your mind can change your world. If depression can be effectively treated in this way it would be better than subscribing to a long term regimen of drugs. Not all depression can be alleviated in this manner and then it would be time to consider antidepressants. There are possible side effects but if a person is clinically depressed the benefits far outweigh the risks.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:36:39 AM EDT
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Not to mention once you go down the SSRI rabbit hole, there's no coming back out without a lot of BS... I used Paxil for six months, about 9 years ago. I started feeling better and the stressors leading to the need for Paxil were mitigated. I weaned myself off over a couple weeks and walked away no problems. Edit: I had a good counselor too. That probably did more for me than pills. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:41:17 AM EDT
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To be perfectly frank, I wouldn't tell a doctor anything that might lead them to prescribe them to me. Such things are a dangerous path to losing civil liberties. Not to mention once you go down the SSRI rabbit hole, there's no coming back out without a lot of BS... I used Paxil for six months, about 9 years ago. I started feeling better and the stressors leading to the need for Paxil were mitigated. I weaned myself off over a couple weeks and walked away no problems. Yup, just gotta wean off. Step down in half doses for 2 to 4 weeks at a time, and monitor your mood in between. Only a dumbass will quit cold turkey. I was a dumbass once. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:45:26 AM EDT
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My sister is a Doc and says Vitamin D works Miracles
for some people. And it's cheep! Google it. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:57:03 AM EDT
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uh, no! Once you take them, the man can come take your guns and your right to own and possess guns.
If you need them to keep from hurting yourself or other, yes. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:58:36 AM EDT
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Don't be depressed, seek God and let Him heal you. You don't need some stinking looney pills. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 7:59:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2014 8:23:30 AM EDT
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Fuck no.
You're screwing with your brain. Your brain makes you have certain feelings/thoughts/emotions/instincts for a reason. Don't fuck with it. I have seen plenty of people in my own family on Prozac or Zoloft, and I can tell you, they're still depressed or anxiety-ridden. YOU have to WANT that change in your life. If you don't, no pill is going to fix that. You need to feel sadness to truly appreciate happiness. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 8:24:44 AM EDT
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I wouldn't. Seems like everyone is on them these days though.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 8:28:08 AM EDT
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Helped my wife get over a hump.
Having said that, are you exercizing? Excercizing helps great bit |
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