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Posted: 7/21/2014 4:32:18 AM EST
Looks like they decided to mimic one of the old artist concepts




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Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:36:58 AM EST
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I'd fly it.

Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:37:27 AM EST
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I have a good feeling about this
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:37:54 AM EST
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I wouldn't.  Stupid thing is missing its R2 unit.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:41:18 AM EST
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Not bad.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:41:43 AM EST
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I wouldn't.  Stupid thing is missing its R2 unit.
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I wouldn't.  Stupid thing is missing its R2 unit.

Doesn't have any stabilizers to break loose, anyway; and I bet the designers of this variant just put a toggle switch in the cockpit to increase the power.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:43:21 AM EST
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Looks like a Z-95
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:44:26 AM EST
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No gosh darnded CGI... Beautiful!
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:45:07 AM EST
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It looks retarded. Air intakes for spacecraft?


Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:45:33 AM EST
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Looks like an x-wing to me.

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Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:46:52 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:47:55 AM EST
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X-Wing is trans atmospheric. GTFO.

 
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:48:23 AM EST
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Every goddamn film for the last 10 years has been blue and orange
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:49:42 AM EST
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Looks like they decided to mimic one of the old artist concepts

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/ConceptX-Wing.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWBGrkc360M
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Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:50:03 AM EST
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I'm not a Star Wars fan, but are X-wings sapcecraft only? I thought I recalled seeing them flying in atmosphere in at least one scene. There's not reason they couldn't have airbreathing capabilities as well, is there?

There's also the matter of human psychology. Spacecraft don't need "wings" either, but no one seems to have a problem with that.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:52:32 AM EST
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my thoughts exactly
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:53:54 AM EST
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Looks like they decided to mimic one of the old artist concepts

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/ConceptX-Wing.jpg

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Iphone
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:55:42 AM EST
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I'm not a Star Wars fan, but are X-wings sapcecraft only? I thought I recalled seeing them flying in atmosphere in at least one scene. There's not reason they couldn't have airbreathing capabilities as well, is there?

There's also the matter of human psychology. Spacecraft don't need "wings" either, but no one seems to have a problem with that.
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It looks retarded. Air intakes for spacecraft?


I'm not a Star Wars fan, but are X-wings sapcecraft only? I thought I recalled seeing them flying in atmosphere in at least one scene. There's not reason they couldn't have airbreathing capabilities as well, is there?

There's also the matter of human psychology. Spacecraft don't need "wings" either, but no one seems to have a problem with that.


Lukes' X-wing in The Empire Strikes Back flies in atmosphere and crash lands on Dagoba.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 4:59:44 AM EST
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Ion intakes for ion propulsion.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:01:21 AM EST
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He went with the Ralph McQuarrie concept. Cool.

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I had that sticker on my Star Wars Microelectronic Digital Watch (which was a pretty neat idea)!
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:03:32 AM EST
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Not the best endorsement for atmospheric flight, if you ask me.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:04:00 AM EST
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I'm not a Star Wars fan, but are X-wings sapcecraft only? I thought I recalled seeing them flying in atmosphere in at least one scene. There's not reason they couldn't have airbreathing capabilities as well, is there?



There's also the matter of human psychology. Spacecraft don't need "wings" either, but no one seems to have a problem with that.
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It looks retarded. Air intakes for spacecraft?





I'm not a Star Wars fan, but are X-wings sapcecraft only? I thought I recalled seeing them flying in atmosphere in at least one scene. There's not reason they couldn't have airbreathing capabilities as well, is there?



There's also the matter of human psychology. Spacecraft don't need "wings" either, but no one seems to have a problem with that.




Uh huh, then why does the Space Shuttle have wings then?





I attribute it to having a diverse role of being both a space interceptor and an atmospheric fighter.



 

Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:05:15 AM EST
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Sweet!!!  I can't wait for this movie to come out
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:05:21 AM EST
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Those are ram scoops.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:07:30 AM EST
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Most of the Rebel Alliance fightercraft were trans-atmospheric................except possibly the B-Wing

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X-Wing is trans atmospheric. GTFO.  

Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:08:59 AM EST
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Going to be cool to have someone who doesn't hate Star Wars at the helm.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:09:11 AM EST
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That video has gotten my attention.





Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:09:17 AM EST
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Force for Change sounds like some Obama bullshit.  Movie better not suck.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:09:48 AM EST
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Most of the Rebel Alliance fightercraft were trans-atmospheric................except possibly the B-Wing
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It looks retarded. Air intakes for spacecraft?







X-Wing is trans atmospheric. GTFO.  










 


B-wing can operate in an atmosphere. Top Atmospheric Speed: 950 kph


 
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:10:55 AM EST
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I really have my fingers crossed that this is gonna be effin awesome. Abrams seems full in on making this a real sequel, down to the original actors and even the gritty, worn look of the starcraft in the original movie. No freshly-washed prequel-era excessively CGI-ed fighters, no sir.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:13:37 AM EST
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General Products #5 hull?
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:15:56 AM EST
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That doesn't appear to be an X Wing at all, but rather a single wing craft.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:16:30 AM EST
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The X-Wing was also used in/on HOTH.
 
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:17:09 AM EST
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That doesn't appear to be an X Wing at all, but rather a single wing craft.
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I am getting the distinct impression a good percentage of ARFCom has never seen the Star Wars movies. "Lock S-foils to attack position"







 
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:18:15 AM EST
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That doesn't appear to be an X Wing at all, but rather a single wing craft.
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Do you even lock S foils in attack position, bro?









 
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:19:11 AM EST
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The wings scissor forming the X. You've never Star Warsed bro?
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:20:10 AM EST
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Lukes' X-wing in The Empire Strikes Back flies in atmosphere and crash lands on Dagoba.
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It looks retarded. Air intakes for spacecraft?


I'm not a Star Wars fan, but are X-wings sapcecraft only? I thought I recalled seeing them flying in atmosphere in at least one scene. There's not reason they couldn't have airbreathing capabilities as well, is there?

There's also the matter of human psychology. Spacecraft don't need "wings" either, but no one seems to have a problem with that.


Lukes' X-wing in The Empire Strikes Back flies in atmosphere and crash lands on Dagoba.


Entire squadrons of X-Wings take off from the rebel base at Yavin, which had a breathable atmosphere, and go directly up to shoot down the Death Star.  Likewise, they take off from Hoth, another planet with a breathable atmosphere, and escort transports past the blockading Imperial fleet.  Luke crash landing on Dagobah was because he just plowed into a fog layer that contained trees, like an imbecile.  They're perfectly capable of atmospheric flight - if you believe the Expanded Universe novels, they're actually significantly better at it than TIE fighters (easy enough to believe, considering the giant vertical panels on either side of a TIE).

As for the wings and the characteristic X-wing split, I've seen it explained as... in space, the only control surfaces you have is your thrust.  By putting engines on pylons/stabilizers, they can get them further away from the craft's center of gravity, and so exert more turning force by varying thrust output of the engines.  Splitting the wings for combat spreads the engines out further from each other, and gives the X-wing better maneuverability.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:20:27 AM EST
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Ok, then that accounts for all of their fighters..............

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It looks retarded. Air intakes for spacecraft?

X-Wing is trans atmospheric. GTFO.  


  B-wing can operate in an atmosphere. Top Atmospheric Speed: 950 kph
 

Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:20:40 AM EST
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Do you even lock S foils in attack position, bro?



 
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Do you even lock S foils in attack position, bro?



 



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Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:21:04 AM EST
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DITTO.
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:22:59 AM EST
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UNICEF

Padding tyrants Swiis accounts since 1946
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:23:15 AM EST
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The X-Wing being able to operate in a breathable atmosphere makes a lot more sense than the Millennium Falcon.
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....Sith vs Puppeteers?  LOL
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:24:34 AM EST
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That doesn't appear to be an X Wing at all, but rather a single wing craft.






Do you even lock S foils in attack position, bro?



 

Red Five standing by.
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Red Six standing by.

 
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:25:34 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:33:24 AM EST
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Anyone else notice that that the nose, wings and the majority of the body of the X-Wing appears to be computer generated?  At least it looks like that on my screen...
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Anyone else notice that that the nose, wings and the majority of the body of the X-Wing appears to be computer generated?  At least it looks like that on my screen...
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No I don't think so looking at it.

J.J. Abrams is going though a lot of trouble to make this movie, for lack of a better term, "real." Minimal use of CGI compared to Ep. 1-3.

ETA: second look - maybe. The shadow of the X-Wing doesn't cast the same as his own.
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Anyone else notice that that the nose, wings and the majority of the body of the X-Wing appears to be computer generated?  At least it looks like that on my screen...
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Looks to me like everything except the one piece he put his hand on is CGI
 
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 5:37:39 AM EST
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Entire squadrons of X-Wings take off from the rebel base at Yavin, which had a breathable atmosphere, and go directly up to shoot down the Death Star.  Likewise, they take off from Hoth, another planet with a breathable atmosphere, and escort transports past the blockading Imperial fleet.  Luke crash landing on Dagobah was because he just plowed into a fog layer that contained trees, like an imbecile.  They're perfectly capable of atmospheric flight - if you believe the Expanded Universe novels, they're actually significantly better at it than TIE fighters (easy enough to believe, considering the giant vertical panels on either side of a TIE).

As for the wings and the characteristic X-wing split, I've seen it explained as... in space, the only control surfaces you have is your thrust.  By putting engines on pylons/stabilizers, they can get them further away from the craft's center of gravity, and so exert more turning force by varying thrust output of the engines.  Splitting the wings for combat spreads the engines out further from each other, and gives the X-wing better maneuverability.
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It looks retarded. Air intakes for spacecraft?


I'm not a Star Wars fan, but are X-wings sapcecraft only? I thought I recalled seeing them flying in atmosphere in at least one scene. There's not reason they couldn't have airbreathing capabilities as well, is there?

There's also the matter of human psychology. Spacecraft don't need "wings" either, but no one seems to have a problem with that.


Lukes' X-wing in The Empire Strikes Back flies in atmosphere and crash lands on Dagoba.


Entire squadrons of X-Wings take off from the rebel base at Yavin, which had a breathable atmosphere, and go directly up to shoot down the Death Star.  Likewise, they take off from Hoth, another planet with a breathable atmosphere, and escort transports past the blockading Imperial fleet.  Luke crash landing on Dagobah was because he just plowed into a fog layer that contained trees, like an imbecile.  They're perfectly capable of atmospheric flight - if you believe the Expanded Universe novels, they're actually significantly better at it than TIE fighters (easy enough to believe, considering the giant vertical panels on either side of a TIE).

As for the wings and the characteristic X-wing split, I've seen it explained as... in space, the only control surfaces you have is your thrust.  By putting engines on pylons/stabilizers, they can get them further away from the craft's center of gravity, and so exert more turning force by varying thrust output of the engines.  Splitting the wings for combat spreads the engines out further from each other, and gives the X-wing better maneuverability.


Another example, the Falcon, Luke's X-wing, TIE fighters, and Fett's Slave 1 are all seen flying through Bespin's atmosphere just fine (Cloud City).
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No I don't think so looking at it.



J.J. Abrams is going though a lot of trouble to make this movie, for lack of a better term, "real." Minimal use of CGI compared to Ep. 1-3.



ETA: second look - maybe. The shadow of the X-Wing doesn't cast the same as his own.
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Anyone else notice that that the nose, wings and the majority of the body of the X-Wing appears to be computer generated?  At least it looks like that on my screen...


No I don't think so looking at it.



J.J. Abrams is going though a lot of trouble to make this movie, for lack of a better term, "real." Minimal use of CGI compared to Ep. 1-3.



ETA: second look - maybe. The shadow of the X-Wing doesn't cast the same as his own.




 
I don't see it either. Notice the wing tops moving when the pilot climbs in.
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