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I've got a modern turntable and a bunch of vinyl. It doesn't sound better than a good (well mastered) CD. But it can sound essentially the same. Nowadays sometimes I just want to relax and not have every damn thing - including listening to an album - become an I.T. problem. View Quote Without knowing the particulars, there are a lot of budget TT out there that really don't sound all that great. Throw in the phonostage that you might be using and well...you certainly have compromised sound. Vinyl is certainly a ritual-esque endeavor, for me at least. Sometimes I just don't want to fire up the main tube system and so I turn on the Denon receiver and listen to college radio. Chris |
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http://www.centerpointaudio.com/Images/Analog-Digital%20frequency%20examples.png (with good equipment, that is) View Quote Not really how it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM |
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Man, I used to DJ with vinyl for fun and had somewhere around 200+ records at one time and even I don't get the draw of vinyl.....that shit's heavy, takes up a ton of space, scratches and breaks easier than CD's, wears out over time which reduces sound quality. I just don't get it. Fucking hipsters are to blame. Hell, they even brought back the typewriter....THE GODDAMN TYPEWRITER!!!
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I have a record player on my want list, I have a bunch of my parents old records that are just collecting dust.
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I disagree. I have 4K invested in vinyl and 20k invested in cd playback. I prefer my vinyl system. Yes one can drop much more coin on vinyl playback however the point of deminishing returns is much lower. Cd playback expesially Dacs is limitless and in most cases more money will produce "better" Listening experience
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Man, I used to DJ for fun and even I don't get the draw of vinyl.....that shit's heavy, takes up a ton of space, scratches and breaks easier than CD's, wears out over time which reduces sound quality. I just don't get it. Fucking hipsters are to blame. Hell, they even brought back the typewriter....THE GODDAMN TYPEWRITER!!! View Quote I've got my eye out for an old typewriter. |
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I was searching for a turntable to play some of my old crappy records and I was astonished at the prices for some of these things. You can easily get into 5 digits in price. quick google search for hi fi turntable popped up a very plain looking one for $30,000
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Dj'ing is a very different use case then why I prefer vinyl.
Moreover I thought dj s were replaced by iTunes playlists |
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30 year old audio technology = "Hipster" 50 year old rifle design = the forum where people make fun of "Hipsters" View Quote The phonograph was invented in 1877, so if you add 109 years to your estimate on how old the audio technology is, you'll be right on. You're not very good at analogies. |
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I bought my wife one, its sounds great. We have a huge stack of records so its cool to be able to play them
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Agreed. However, not an issue for my setup. View Quote I'm pretty familiar with current vinyl setups, what are you running specifically? >>>Kuzma Stabi w/external PSU>>>Kuzma Stogi Reference arm>>>Transfiguration Spirit v.1>>>Sonic Frontiers Phono 1 SE phono stage. A bit dated, but quality stuff back in 2000ish. Chris |
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I am currently looking for a console stereo. . The bigger the better. Of course I will upgrade the guts but keep the old school look.
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I'm all for retro technology, but I'm more for minimizing the amount of crap i own. Having all of my music, book, pictures, videos, and communications on a cell phone beats the crap out of hifi gear, bookcases full of books, shoeboxes full of pictures, shelves full of tapes/dvds, and a big ass home phone with an answering machine.
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I'm 24, not a hipster, and I prefer vinyl.
Merle Haggard and Don Williams sound better on vinyl. |
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Breaking out my old KISS albums and others to honor this thread.
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I was searching for a turntable to play some of my old crappy records and I was astonished at the prices for some of these things. You can easily get into 5 digits in price. quick google search for hi fi turntable popped up a very plain looking one for $30,000 View Quote It also depends on what you're wanting to use the turntable for.....direct drive or belt |
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Man, I used to DJ with vinyl for fun and had somewhere around 200+ records at one time and even I don't get the draw of vinyl.....that shit's heavy, takes up a ton of space, scratches and breaks easier than CD's, wears out over time which reduces sound quality. I just don't get it. Fucking hipsters are to blame. Hell, they even brought back the typewriter....THE GODDAMN TYPEWRITER!!! View Quote It's not hipsters. Audiophiles have been big on vinyl for 30 years. Some even refuse to go digital anything. Pre and amps are tube. Vinyl has tube output stage, etc. Even putting a tube output stage onto SACD players or buying them with it already installed. |
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It also depends on what you're wanting to use the turntable for.....direct drive or belt View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was searching for a turntable to play some of my old crappy records and I was astonished at the prices for some of these things. You can easily get into 5 digits in price. quick google search for hi fi turntable popped up a very plain looking one for $30,000 It also depends on what you're wanting to use the turntable for.....direct drive or belt Most all quality hi end TTs are belt drive. If you need to start a record up hot, in 1/4 turn, then you want direct drive, like most radio station DJ TTs. Chris |
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Merle Haggard and Don Williams sound better from a portable digital device out in the middle of nowhere...by a campfire...with a beer in my hand.
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I was searching for a turntable to play some of my old crappy records and I was astonished at the prices for some of these things. You can easily get into 5 digits in price. quick google search for hi fi turntable popped up a very plain looking one for $30,000 View Quote Have fun and break out the wallet. https://www.audiogon.com/ |
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From a DJ to the "vinyl sounds better crowd" play your records enough (and take 'em in and out of sleeves enough) times....and you WILL notice a sound difference. There's a reason I and many other vinyl DJ's owned multiple copies of the same records.
I swear it's like talking to styrofoam sometimes. |
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It's hipster stuff.
For the best quality you want an HD song, played through a DAC, and then to good speakers. |
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I've got boxes of vinyl. Lots of European imports (that I imported when I moved back), lots of rare live stuff too.
Suggestion for good turntable setup? I want one for Xmas too. |
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Our 14 y/o wanted one too, along with an old ribbon tyewriter and the hand held walkie talkies the kids had in Strange Things. I am totally cool with the retro stuff. Was a real bitch finding new ribbons for the typewriter though. View Quote I bought an older electric typewriter from gubmint auction. You can get ribbons on Amazon. Best, JBR |
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So many good memories of going to basement/garage shows of shitty punk bands and digging threw boxes of 45's to try and find some obscure Subhumans or Exploited single.
Music hunting is stale and boring now. |
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Still lots of stuff recorded to tape in all genres View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dave Grohl is big into recording on all analog equipment. He recorded some music with Zac Brown Band and others. The ZBB album was great. Still lots of stuff recorded to tape in all genres I just watched the Sound City documentary with Grohl and a ton of other musicians. It's a very good documentary that touches on this very subject. |
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30 year old audio technology = "Hipster" 50 year old rifle design = the forum where people make fun of "Hipsters" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hipsters...goes with handlebar mustache. 30 year old audio technology = "Hipster" 50 year old rifle design = the forum where people make fun of "Hipsters" Did the AR become obsolete? |
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I've got boxes of vinyl. Lots of European imports (that I imported when I moved back), lots of rare live stuff too. Suggestion for good turntable setup? I want one for Xmas too. View Quote You've got to get a budget together for table, arm, cartridge and phono stage, if you don't have any of it. You need to see what STEREO equipment you have already, that might work, or isn't going to hold your new vinyl rig, hostage. https://www.musicdirect.com/Search?category=Turntables&sort=popularity%7CDESC&page=1&c1=tab-products&c2=grid http://store.acousticsounds.com/c/111/Turntables http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Turntables Without knowing some of the above, nobody can recommend stuff to you. Chris |
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Vinyl sounds better to the ear, a 'warmer' sound. Digital is all blocks of 1's and 0's so it does not have the same pleasing sound to the ear.
This is confirmed over and over again by sound engineers (family member is one). If you want to collect music from a favorite artist, actual records are investments (they go UP in value. Casettes, CD's and MP3 files are disposable) The love of Vinyl was not started by hipsters, even though they may be obsessed with them. |
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Vinyl sounds better to the ear, a 'warmer' sound. Digital is all blocks of 1's and 0's so it does not have the same pleasing sound to the ear. This is confirmed over and over again by sound engineers (family member is one). If you want to collect music from a favorite artist, actual records are investments (they go UP in value. Casettes, CD's and MP3 files are disposable) The love of Vinyl was not started by hipsters, even though they may be obsessed with them. View Quote SMH |
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Our twin daughters are 16.
Both have record players, and they ask for albums for Christmas, birthday, etc. I walked into one of their rooms awhile back. She had my Van Halen I album playing. I had to give her a high five... |
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Guy at work has a $5,000+ record player set up. The needle thing alone cost him $1300 That doesn't include the actual speaker, tuner or amp stuff. I know the speakers alone are something like $10,000.
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I just had this awesome image of Zak, Nick, and Aaron recording AVP's... Analogue Voice Phenomonon..
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I'm about as far from 'hipster' as it gets, and I just inherited my in-laws' turntable system and vinyl collection. There is a very real, noticeable difference in audio quality, especially compared to low bitrate MP3 that was the norm for CD ripping for a while. A new needle, a good set of cans, and a mint-condition original Zeppelin album is an experience not to be missed. View Quote When I was a teenager, an adult friend lent me a few vinyls to check out. Listening to Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon through a set of headphones borrowed from my dad's motion picture studio was amazing. My radio career saw me transmitting through a vintage and powerful old school tube-transmitter AM station and several solid state remotely programmable FM setups. I played vinyl, tape cartridges, DAT recordings, reel to reel, CD, and MP3. I love it all, but still have a soft spot for the fuzzy stuff. Most of my guitar amps have tubes, too. |
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I love my old turntable.
I use it to spin .50 Cal brass while I anneal it. |
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