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Posted: 7/29/2014 11:01:40 AM EDT
OP----------------------------------"Good Fences Make Good Neighbors"

Only serious and respectful Christian commentary please!
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 11:26:29 PM EDT
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These are the family records of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless among his contemporaries; Noah walked with God. And Noah fathered three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight, and the earth was filled with violence (or sexual immorality, murder, theft, carousing, fighting, drunkenness, irresponsibility, and injustice). God saw how corrupt the earth was, for all flesh had corrupted its way on the earth. Then God said to Noah, "I have decided to put an end to all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence (or extreme injustice) because of them; therefore I am going to destroy them along with the earth (or destroy every living creature who I do not save [The LORD's Declaration]).

" Make yourself an ark (or a large seafaring vessel) of gofer wood (unknown species of tree; perhaps pine or cypress). Make rooms in the ark, and cover it with pitch (or hot tar to set) inside and outside (or to seal the shiplap inside and out). Now, this is how you are to make it: The ark will be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high (or 300 cubits long).

You are to make a roof (or window or hatch; Hb uncertain), finishing the sides of the ark to within 18 inches (Lit to a cubit) of the roof. You are to put a door in the side of the ark. Make it with lower, middle, and upper decks.

       "Understand that I am bringing a deluge--------floodwaters on the earth to destroy all flesh under heaven with the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will die.

But I will establish My covenant with you, and you will enter that ark with your sons, your wife, and your son's wives. You are also to bring into the ark two of every living thing of all flesh, male and female, to keep them alive with you. Two of everything--------from birds according to their kinds, from the livestock according to their kinds, and from every animal that crawls on the ground according to its kind------will come to you so that you can keep them alive.

Take with you every kind of food that is eaten; gather it as food for you and for them."
And Noah did this.
He did everything that commanded him to do.

The Words of Moses
Genesis 6: 9-22

God Warns and Instructs Noah: A Righteous Man
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 7:26:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/2/2014 10:21:04 AM EDT
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When mankind began to multiply on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God (or fallen angels from the heavenly rebellion fallen now to be bound to earth and its atmosphere) saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took any they chose as wives (or as kept women) for themselves.

And the LORD said, "My Spirit will not always remain (Lit strive or endure) with mankind forever (or endure the wickedness of mankind always), because they are corrupt.There days will be 120 years."

Now, the Nephilim (Possibly means "fallen ones":; traditionally giants;) were on the earth both in those days (or before the days of the great universal flood) and afterwards, when the sons of God came to the daughters of man (or came to the daughters of men or mankind again after the deluge), who bore children to them.

They were the powerful men of old (or the powerful men from antiquity; possibly proliferating from the offspring of Ham i.e.Nimrod; third in a line of descendants; the first powerful hunter on earth; original African human inhabitants: See Gen.10: 6-11), the famous men (or the influential men from the stock of angel and giant).

Genesis 6: 1-4
Sons of God and Daughters of Men.

Transcript of Moses

Link Posted: 8/2/2014 11:51:35 AM EDT
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These are the family records of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless among his contemporaries; Noah walked with God. And Noah fathered three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight, and the earth was filled with violence (or sexual immorality, murder, theft, coursing, fighting, drunkenness, irresponsibility, and injustice). God saw how corrupt the earth was, for all flesh had corrupted its way on the earth. Then God said to Noah, "I have decided to put an end to all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence (or extreme injustice) because of them; therefore I am going to destroy them along with the earth (or destroy every living creature who I do not save [The LORD's Declaration]).

" Make yourself an ark (or a large seafaring vessel) of gofer wood (unknown species of tree; perhaps pine or cypress). Make rooms in the ark, and cover it with pitch (or hot tar to set) inside and outside (or to seal the shiplap inside and out). Now, this is how you are to make it: The ark will be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high (or 300 cubits long).

You are to make a roof (or window or hatch; Hb uncertain), finishing the sides of the ark to within 18 inches (Lit to a cubit) of the roof. You are to put a door in the side of the ark. Make it with lower, middle, and upper decks.

       "Understand that I am bringing a deluge--------floodwaters on the earth to destroy all flesh under heaven with the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will die.

But I will establish My covenant with you, and you will enter that ark with your sons, your wife, and your son's wives. You are also to bring into the ark two of every living thing of all flesh, male and female, to keep them alive with you. Two of everything--------from birds according to their kinds, from the livestock according to their kinds, and from every animal that crawls on the ground according to its kind------will come to you so that you can keep them alive.

Take with you every kind of food that is eaten; gather it as food for you and for them."
And Noah did this.
He did everything that commanded him to do.

The Words of Moses
Genesis 6: 9-22

God Warns and Instructs Noah: A Righteous Man
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And of the clean animals he took by sevens. Most people don't notice this.

Gen 7:2
You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female;
Gen 7:3
also of the birds of the sky, by sevens, male and female, to keep offspring alive on the face of all the earth.
Link Posted: 8/2/2014 8:25:47 PM EDT
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These are the family records of the descendants of Adam. On the day that God created man (or Adam), He (or God) made him in the likeness of God (or made him in the likeness of One: The Coming Savior; God in Man); He created them male and female.

He blessed them (or completed a purpose for them) and called them man.

Adam was 130 years old when he fathered a child in his likeness, according to hid image, and named him Seth (or This One Replaces). Adam lived 800 years after the birth of Seth, and he fathered other sons and daughters.
So Adam's life lasted 930 years; then he died.

Now, Seth was 105 years old when he fathered Enosh. Seth lived 807 years after the birth of Enosh, and he fathered other sons and daughters. Seth's life lasted 912 years; then he died.

Enosh was 90 years old when he fathered Kenan. Enosh lived 815 years after the birth of Kenan, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Enosh's life lasted 905 years; then he died.

Kenan was 70 years old when he fathered Mahalalel. Kenan lived 840 years after the birth of Mahalalel, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Kenan's life lasted 910 years and then he died.

Mahalalel was 65 years old when he fathered Jared. Mahalalel lived 830 years after the birth of Jared, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Mahalalel lasted 895 years; then he died.

Jared was 162 years old when he fathered Enoch. Jared lived 800 years after the birth of Enoch, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Jared's life lasted 962 years; then he died.

Enoch was 65 years when he fathered Methuselah, Enoch walked with God 300 years and fathered other sons and daughters. So Enoch's live lasted 365 years. Enoch walked with God, and he was not there (or Enoch was not there because he was translated to the kingdom of God in the state of the still physical living), because God took him.

Methuselah was 187 years olds when he fathered Lamech. Methuselah lived 782 years after the birth of Lamech, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Methuselah lasted 969 years; then he died (and was the oldest man who ever lived).

Lamech was 182 years old when he fathered a son. And he named him Noah, saying, "This one will bring us relief (The Hb word translated bring us relief sounds like the name of Noah) from the agonizing labor of our hands, caused by the ground that the LORD has cursed."
Lamech lived 595 years after Noah's birth, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Lamech's life lasted 777 years; and then he died.

Noah was 500 years old when he fathered Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Genesis 5: 1-32
The Genealogical Lineage of Seth through Adam to Noah

Transcript of Moses

Link Posted: 8/2/2014 9:19:04 PM EDT
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And of the clean animals he took by sevens. Most people don't notice this.

Gen 7:2
You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female;
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That's interesting. Which animals are classified as "clean"? And which are "not clean"?
Link Posted: 8/3/2014 9:32:03 AM EDT
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These are the family records of the descendants of Adam. On the day that God created man (or Adam), He (or God) made him in the likeness of God (or made him in the likeness of One: The Coming Savior; God in Man); He created them male and female.

He blessed them (or completed a purpose for them) and called them man.

Adam was 130 years old when he fathered a child in his likeness, according to hid image, and named him Seth (or This One Replaces). Adam lived 800 years after the birth of Seth, and he fathered other sons and daughters.
So Adam's life lasted 930 years; then he died.

Now, Seth was 105 years old when he fathered Enosh. Seth lived 807 years after the birth of Enosh, and he fathered other sons and daughters. Seth's life lasted 912 years; then he died.

Enosh was 90 years old when he fathered Kenan. Enosh lived 815 years after the birth of Kenan, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Enosh's life lasted 905 years; then he died.

Kenan was 70 years old when he fathered Mahalalel. Kenan lived 840 years after the birth of Mahalalel, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Kenan's life lasted 910 years and then he died.

Mahalalel was 65 years old when he fathered Jared. Mahalalel lived 830 years after the birth of Jared, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Mahalalel lasted 895 years; then he died.

Jared was 162 years old when he fathered Enoch. Jared lived 800 years after the birth of Enoch, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Jared's life lasted 962 years; the he died.

Enoch was 65 years when he fathered Methuselah, Enoch walked with God 300 years and fathered other sons and daughters. So Enoch's live lasted 365 years. Enoch walked with God, and he was not there (or Enoch was not there because he was translated to the kingdom of God in the state of the still physical living), because God took him.

Methuselah was 187 years olds when he fathered Lamech. Methuselah lived 782 years after the birth of Lamech, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Methuselah lasted 969 years; then he died.

Lamech was 182 years old when he fathered a son. And he named him Noah, saying, "This one will bring us relief (The Hb word translated bring us relief sounds like the name of Noah) from the agonizing labor of our hands, caused by the ground that the LORD has cursed,"
Lamech lived 595 years after Noah's birth, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Lamech's life lasted 777 years; and then he died.

Noah was 500 years old when he fathered Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Genesis 5: 1-32
The Genealogical Lineage of Seth through Adam to Noah

Transcript of Moses

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These are the family records of the descendants of Adam. On the day that God created man (or Adam), He (or God) made him in the likeness of God (or made him in the likeness of One: The Coming Savior; God in Man); He created them male and female.

He blessed them (or completed a purpose for them) and called them man.

Adam was 130 years old when he fathered a child in his likeness, according to hid image, and named him Seth (or This One Replaces). Adam lived 800 years after the birth of Seth, and he fathered other sons and daughters.
So Adam's life lasted 930 years; then he died.

Now, Seth was 105 years old when he fathered Enosh. Seth lived 807 years after the birth of Enosh, and he fathered other sons and daughters. Seth's life lasted 912 years; then he died.

Enosh was 90 years old when he fathered Kenan. Enosh lived 815 years after the birth of Kenan, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Enosh's life lasted 905 years; then he died.

Kenan was 70 years old when he fathered Mahalalel. Kenan lived 840 years after the birth of Mahalalel, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Kenan's life lasted 910 years and then he died.

Mahalalel was 65 years old when he fathered Jared. Mahalalel lived 830 years after the birth of Jared, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Mahalalel lasted 895 years; then he died.

Jared was 162 years old when he fathered Enoch. Jared lived 800 years after the birth of Enoch, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Jared's life lasted 962 years; the he died.

Enoch was 65 years when he fathered Methuselah, Enoch walked with God 300 years and fathered other sons and daughters. So Enoch's live lasted 365 years. Enoch walked with God, and he was not there (or Enoch was not there because he was translated to the kingdom of God in the state of the still physical living), because God took him.

Methuselah was 187 years olds when he fathered Lamech. Methuselah lived 782 years after the birth of Lamech, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Methuselah lasted 969 years; then he died.

Lamech was 182 years old when he fathered a son. And he named him Noah, saying, "This one will bring us relief (The Hb word translated bring us relief sounds like the name of Noah) from the agonizing labor of our hands, caused by the ground that the LORD has cursed,"
Lamech lived 595 years after Noah's birth, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Lamech's life lasted 777 years; and then he died.

Noah was 500 years old when he fathered Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Genesis 5: 1-32
The Genealogical Lineage of Seth through Adam to Noah

Transcript of Moses






In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Now the earth (or and the earth man) was formless and empty (or had not been fully shaped yet), and darkness covered the surface of the watery depths (or the water was unable to support life at that time), and the Spirit of God (or the Holy Spirit of God: Workman of the Spirit), was present hovering over the surface of the waters (or the great oceanic sea).

Then God said, "Let there be light," and there was light (or light at the very instant that God commanded it "to be" with His utterances). God saw that the light was good (or that the light would be good for mankind to abound under), and God separated the light (or the capability of the enlightenment of man; for the star in the heavens had not yet been created) from the darkness (or that or from darkness, which was necessary for God's purpose to proceed with the creation of the man).
God called the light, "day" (or the enlightenment as it would be known to men: Daystar), and the darkness He called, "night" (or the darkness God called in subjection as the lesser of the creations).

Evening came (or then growth came), and then morning (or morning: The New Era): the first day.

Genesis 1 1-6
The First Day of Creation
Link Posted: 8/3/2014 5:30:38 PM EDT
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Then God said, "Let there be an expanse (or a canopy of semi-separation) between the waters, separating water from water. "So God made the expanse (or inner heavens) and separated the water from the water under the expanse from the water that was above the expanse. And it was so."
God called the expanse "sky" (or the second heaven to spread out; beat firmly with new pressure).
Evening came, and then morning (or then morning then came anew: New Era): the second day.

Genesis 1: 6-8
Creation of the Second Day

The Explicit Word of Moses into Biblical Old Testament Text




Then God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered into one place (or the great oceanic sea into its prepared place), and let the dry land appear." And it was so, God called the dry land "earth," and he called the gathering of the waters "seas" (or the various salt water bodies in the earth, but still different as we know them today).

And God saw that it was good, Then God said, "Let the earth produce vegetation: seed bearing plants, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit with seed in it, according to their kinds."
And it was so.
So the earth (or so the earth at God's command to be) brought forth vegetation: seed bearing plants according to their kinds.
And God saw that it was good.
Evening came, and then morning (or the dawning of yet another age for the yet unmade man's benefit and God's purpose): the third day.

Genesis 1: 9-13
The Creation of the Third Day

Transcript of Moses the Legislator into Biblical Old Testament Text
Link Posted: 8/3/2014 6:20:45 PM EDT
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Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night. They will serve as signs festivals and for days and years (or as signs according to observances passing by, and for a standard for the man's calendar to know when to celebrate times and seasons).
They will be lights in the expanse to provide light on the earth."
And it was so. God made the two lights (or God made the two heavenly beacons)-------- the greater one to have dominion over the day and the lesser one to have dominion over the night------as well as the stars (or dominion in the kingdom of darkness over a pre-prescribed number of angels who would live and act accordingly in that darkness with the Serpent; or the fallen, "Cherub Who Covers the Throne" at their head).

God placed them (or the heavenly bodies or massive amounts of God's angels and at His command) in the expanse of the sky to provide light on the earth, to dominate the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness.

Evening came, and then morning: the fourth Day (or the fourth age or increment of creation).

Genesis 1: 14-19
Link Posted: 8/3/2014 6:33:13 PM EDT
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My favorite part of Genesis is where God states he gave man the rule of all the heavens and the earth, the seas and the skies and over all His creatures. I've raised allot of different animals from farm livestock to native and exotic wildlife and I can assure you the only thing he gave us he didn't give His other creatures is the gift of creativity. If you don't believe me ask your favorite pet or the "smartest" animal known to paint the Mona Lisa, create the Polio vaccine, send a man to the moon or even design an AR 15. God is great !
Link Posted: 8/3/2014 6:48:06 PM EDT
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Then God said, "Let the water swarm with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth and across the expanse of the sky." So God created the large sea creatures (or created sea monsters of great size, voracity, and unknowable strength; for the man had yet to exist upon the earth in physical form to evaluate them) and every other living creature that moves and thus swarms in the waters, according to their kinds.
God also created every winged bird (or every bird that would ever take flight from a tree or from the ocean) according to its kind.

And God saw that it was good.
So God blessed them (or so God oversupplied their existences to flourish by his power to adapt to the earth's surface), "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters of the seas, and let the birds multiply on the earth."

Evening came, and then came morning: the fifth day (or a New Era and Beginning; the fifth Day in the reverse order of from nighttime until Day*).

Genesis 1: 20-23
His Day: The LORD's Day*
Link Posted: 8/3/2014 6:52:08 PM EDT
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My favorite part of Genesis is where God states he gave man the rule of all the heavens and the earth, the seas and the skies and over all His creatures. I've raised allot of different animals from farm livestock to native and exotic wildlife and I can assure you the only thing he gave us he didn't give His other creatures is the gift of creativity. If you don't believe me ask your favorite pet or the "smartest" animal known to paint the Mona Lisa, create the Polio vaccine, send a man to the moon or even design an AR 15. God is great !
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He  is awe inspiring indeed.

Link Posted: 8/3/2014 11:05:12 PM EDT
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Then God said, "Let the earth produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that crawl, and the willdlife of the earth according to their kinds." And it was so.
So God made the wildlife of the earth according to their kinds, the livestock (or two and four-footed ceremonially clean and unclean animals that God made that in time, that man would be able to domesticate for food, clothing, and medicinal uses as God designed and purposed for according to their kinds, and creatures who crawl on the ground (or insects, lizards, worms, and snakes) according to their kinds (or according to their different kinds to adapt on the earth within the realm of each other).

And God saw (or saw and envisioned from before eternally, at juncture, as perfection according to His eternal purpose) that it was good (or that it was equally and entirely a foundation; one strand looped up against another as the creative fabric is interwoven yet not showing a sought for seam or fissure to be examined by the earth man for his approval as the creation).

Then God said, "Let Us make man in our own image (or God said, 'Let Us make man in our own Oneness), according to Our image (or according to the image of the One: Messiah or God Man and with purpose to be perfected in every way according to the truth of the purpose). They will rule (or they will ultimately rule) the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, the livestock of all the earth (or all of the earth; in every single place; and in every event of nature with Messiah), and all the creatures which crawl on the earth (or all the creatures that crawl on the ground and that eat the dust of the earth all of the days of their lives)."

          So God created man
           in His own Image;
           He created him in the image
           of God;
           He created them male
            and female.


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Link Posted: 8/4/2014 10:15:38 AM EDT
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So God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth, and subdue (or bring the parts of the earth that a man can manage for himself under his control that is perfectly fitting to God's purpose for him to increase himself), it.
Rule the fish of the sea (or fish of the sea for your food), the birds of the sky (or birds of the sky for food and to cleanse the land of carrion), and every creature that crawls (Lit and all scurrying animals what scurry) on the earth."

Then God also said, "Look, I have given you every seed-bearing plant on the surface of the entire earth (or on the surface of the earth if you can negotiate yourselves to its location), and every tree whose fruit contains seed. This food will be for you, for all of the wildlife of the earth, for every bird of the sky, and for every creature that crawls on the earth-----everything having the breath of life in it.

I have given every green plant for food."

And it was so (or and it was so after the rains came to nourish the ground that the man would live and subsist with the help of God upon, the earth for life, and through the reality of that life with or without God; being part of a plan to continue to overcome obstacles by the forces working).

And God (Lit work that God created to make) saw all that He had made, and it was very good (or very beautiful according to the earth's initial completion or of six stages of development for the man and God's glory to abound or be justified concerning the man whom He set about to work for God's ultimate purpose to initiate on the earth starting with them; containing One or Spirit latter on deep within their flesh; but for now, the singular creation: Adam Kadmon).

Evening came, and then morning: The Sixth Day (or Beginning of Man by the Breath of the Almighty God)

Genesis 1: 28-31
The Literary Works in Biblical or Torah Forms of Moses the Legislator's Description of Creation


Six Days of the Creative Effects of God in the Places Where He Dwellls


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That's interesting. Which animals are classified as "clean"? And which are "not clean"?
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And of the clean animals he took by sevens. Most people don't notice this.

Gen 7:2
You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female;

That's interesting. Which animals are classified as "clean"? And which are "not clean"?

They are listed in Leviticus 11. The unclean animals are mostly ones that eat trash or anything dead, like a pig or catfish for example.
Link Posted: 8/5/2014 3:20:35 AM EDT
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They are listed in Leviticus 11. The unclean animals are mostly ones that eat trash or anything dead, like a pig or catfish for example.
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And of the clean animals he took by sevens. Most people don't notice this.

Gen 7:2
You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female;

That's interesting. Which animals are classified as "clean"? And which are "not clean"?

They are listed in Leviticus 11. The unclean animals are mostly ones that eat trash or anything dead, like a pig or catfish for example.

Thanks. Some strange laws there. I didn't see any explanation for how the onset of evening suddenly renders a "contaminated" person clean?

Do these laws only apply to Jews? Are Christians and others free to eat pork, lobster, etc?
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Thanks. Some strange laws there. I didn't see any explanation for how the onset of evening suddenly renders a "contaminated" person clean?

Do these laws only apply to Jews? Are Christians and others free to eat pork, lobster, etc?
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And of the clean animals he took by sevens. Most people don't notice this.

Gen 7:2
You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female;

That's interesting. Which animals are classified as "clean"? And which are "not clean"?

They are listed in Leviticus 11. The unclean animals are mostly ones that eat trash or anything dead, like a pig or catfish for example.

Thanks. Some strange laws there. I didn't see any explanation for how the onset of evening suddenly renders a "contaminated" person clean?

Do these laws only apply to Jews? Are Christians and others free to eat pork, lobster, etc?


Stanc, please feel free to go and start a thread concerning whatever you want about discussing the clean versus unclean, and Jewish dietary laws and such, or about the ghost of Christmas past, I really don't care. This thread has been designed for serious and respectful Christian commentary only.

You are off topic here and getting further away with every post that you make, and unless you are considering yourself to be a Christian believer, and will stay on topic, then please read OP again unless you have not up to this point, and just move along now please.

Thanks,

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Stanc, please feel free to go and start a thread concerning whatever you want about discussing the clean versus unclean, and Jewish dietary laws and such, or about the ghost of Christmas past, I really don't care. This thread has been designed for serious and respectful Christian commentary only.

You are off topic here and getting further away with every post that you make, and unless you are considering yourself to be a Christian believer, and will stay on topic, then please read OP again unless you have not up to this point, and just move along now please.
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And of the clean animals he took by sevens. Most people don't notice this.

Gen 7:2
You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female;

That's interesting. Which animals are classified as "clean"? And which are "not clean"?

They are listed in Leviticus 11. The unclean animals are mostly ones that eat trash or anything dead, like a pig or catfish for example.

Thanks. Some strange laws there. I didn't see any explanation for how the onset of evening suddenly renders a "contaminated" person clean?

Do these laws only apply to Jews? Are Christians and others free to eat pork, lobster, etc?

Stanc, please feel free to go and start a thread concerning whatever you want about discussing the clean versus unclean, and Jewish dietary laws and such, or about the ghost of Christmas past, I really don't care. This thread has been designed for serious and respectful Christian commentary only.

You are off topic here and getting further away with every post that you make, and unless you are considering yourself to be a Christian believer, and will stay on topic, then please read OP again unless you have not up to this point, and just move along now please.

I was addressing subjects brought up by RSR556, and asking serious and respectful questions concerning those subjects.

But, it's only a matter of mild curiosity on my part, so if it truly bugs you that much, I'll drop it.

(BTW, I did reread the OP, but still don't see how "Good Fences Make Good Neighbors" relates to any of the successive posts, or makes mine remarkably off-topic. )
Link Posted: 8/5/2014 10:55:59 PM EDT
[#20]
"if it bugs you that much"
Link Posted: 8/6/2014 10:09:43 AM EDT
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So God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth, and subdue (or bring the parts of the earth that a man can manage for himself under his control that is perfectly fitting to God's purpose for him to increase himself), it.
Rule the fish of the sea (or fish of the sea for your food), the birds of the sky (or birds of the sky for food and to cleanse the land of carrion), and every creature that crawls (Lit and all scurrying animals what scurry) on the earth."

Then God also said, "Look, I have given you every seed-bearing plant on the surface of the entire earth (or on the surface of the earth if you can negotiate yourselves to its location), and every tree whose fruit contains seed. This food will be for you, for all of the wildlife of the earth, for every bird of the sky, and for every creature that crawls on the earth-----everything having the breath of life in it.

I have given every green plant for food."

And it was so (or and it was so after the rains came to nourish the ground that the man would live and subsist with the help of God upon, the earth for life, and through the reality of that life with or without God; being part of a plan to continue to overcome obstacles by the forces working).

And God (Lit work that God created to make) saw all that He had made, and it was very good (or very beautiful according to the earth's initial completion or of six stages of development for the man and God's glory to abound or be justified concerning the man whom He set about to work for God's ultimate purpose to initiate on the earth starting with them; containing One or Spirit latter on deep within their flesh; but for now, the singular creation: Adam Kadmon).

Evening came, and then morning: The Sixth Day (or Beginning of Man by the Breath of the Almighty God)

Genesis 1: 28-31
The Literary Works in Biblical or Torah Forms of Moses the Legislator's Description of Creation


Six Days of the Creative Effects of God in the Places Where He Dwellls


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So the heavens and the earth and everything in them were completed (or completed to carry on with God's awesome and eternal plan).
By the seventh day (Lit creation on the day) God completed His work that He had accomplished, and He rested (or ceased to create by design and master plan) on the seventh day from all His work that He had completed.

God blessed (or God blessed as reckoning His creation to be a permanent situation) the seventh day and declared it holy (or set apart for a day of solemn observance of the LORD God Himself; and a day of restful worship to acknowledge God's glory and goodness in the earth; as God made instrumentally for the man to respect, pay homage, and reverence Him completely throughout the earth), for on it (or for on it therefore) He rested from His work.

The Words and Accounting of God According to His Creation and Sabbath: Moses the Legislator Through the Holy Spirit of God
Genesis 2: 1-3
God's Work According to His Creation Completed: Sabbath Day Declared Holy
Link Posted: 8/6/2014 10:19:53 AM EDT
[#22]
Yes ! He IS the inspiration for all things and all things are possible because of Him.
Link Posted: 8/6/2014 4:01:15 PM EDT
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Stanc, please feel free to go and start a thread concerning whatever you want about discussing the clean versus unclean, and Jewish dietary laws and such, or about the ghost of Christmas past, I really don't care. This thread has been designed for serious and respectful Christian commentary only.

You are off topic here and getting further away with every post that you make, and unless you are considering yourself to be a Christian believer, and will stay on topic, then please read OP again unless you have not up to this point, and just move along now please.

Thanks,

SAE
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And of the clean animals he took by sevens. Most people don't notice this.

Gen 7:2
You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female;

That's interesting. Which animals are classified as "clean"? And which are "not clean"?

They are listed in Leviticus 11. The unclean animals are mostly ones that eat trash or anything dead, like a pig or catfish for example.

Thanks. Some strange laws there. I didn't see any explanation for how the onset of evening suddenly renders a "contaminated" person clean?

Do these laws only apply to Jews? Are Christians and others free to eat pork, lobster, etc?


Stanc, please feel free to go and start a thread concerning whatever you want about discussing the clean versus unclean, and Jewish dietary laws and such, or about the ghost of Christmas past, I really don't care. This thread has been designed for serious and respectful Christian commentary only.

You are off topic here and getting further away with every post that you make, and unless you are considering yourself to be a Christian believer, and will stay on topic, then please read OP again unless you have not up to this point, and just move along now please.

Thanks,

SAE

Stanc's post was inline with what you had posted, about the animals being brought in by twos. I merely stated that most people don't realize that the clean animals were brought by sevens, and he politely inquired about this. I've seen where you two have had trouble in the past, but when someone genuinely asks a question about a topic, he shouldn't be treated in a disrespectful manner. We are to show patience and love, not haughtiness.
Link Posted: 8/8/2014 10:58:25 AM EDT
[#24]
We are currently studying in the book of Genesis, Please feel free to start another thread concerning anything that you want at this time if you desire to do that.

This is a lessoned study thread with commentary according to the content given in the plan and nothing more than that.

Sorry if you thought it was something else entirely. Please feel free to IM me if you have any additional questions or comments concerning this thread.



Thanks.
Link Posted: 8/8/2014 11:42:51 AM EDT
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These are the records of the heavens and the earth (or the records of God's creation through the testimony of God's Spirit unto Moses), concerning their creation at the time (Lit creation on the day) that the LORD God made (or stretched out) the earth and the heavens.
No shrub of the field had yet grown on the land, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not made it rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground.
But water would come up out of the ground and water the entire surface of the land.

Then the LORD God formed out of the ground each wild animal and each bird of the sky, and brought each to the man (or Adam, the first living man) to see what he would call them.
And whatever he would call a living creature, then that was its name.

He gave names to all of the livestock, to the birds of the sky, and to every wild animal; but for the man no (or no other) helper was found who was like him. So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to come over the man and he slept (or slept because God rendered him unconscious). God then took one of his ribs and closed the flesh at that place.

Then the LORD God made the rib He had taken from the man into a woman and brought her (or presented her) to the man.

And the man said:

"                                                     This one, at last, is bone
                                                      of my bone (or contains the inward parts of me),
                                                       and flesh of my flesh;
                                                       this one will be called woman (or the yield of my rib),
                                                       for she was taken from man (or she was taken out of Adam or Earth Man made of the elements for
                                                       the woman to be his partner or help-meet).



So this is why a man leaves his father and mother and bonds with his wife, and they become one flesh (or that they become one spirit and through the Spirit of God).
Both the man and the woman were naked, yet felt no shame (or yet felt no remorse for sin).


Genesis 2: 4-6-------19-25
Man and Woman: Adam Names the Wildlife and Cattle: No Rain Yet on the Land
Link Posted: 8/10/2014 10:25:15 AM EDT
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No shrub of the field had yet grown on the land (or no initial vegetation or crops for the man had yet to come to be), and no part of the field had not yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not made it rain (or the LORD God had not made in rain until those days were fulfilled and then a great universal flood would occur as God had planned) on the land, and there was no man to work the ground (or to farm and eventually harvest God's crops that he had given to the man for food and materials. And which would cause the man to be healthy and for his livestock to increase, so that the man would prosper in God's timing for him to become self-sufficient; as the man would reason according to the destiny that God had given him to steward from the beginning).

But water would come out of the ground, and water the entire surface of the land (or God would open the inner water chambers of the earth and gently release water on the expanse of the ground looking upward).

Then the LORD God formed the man out of the dust from the ground (or from the earthly elements) and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being (or the man became "Adam" from the earth, or man of the earth; or earth man).

Genesis 2: 4-7

God's Waters the Ground from Great Internal Sources: Makes Physical Man from the Elements of the Earth
Link Posted: 8/12/2014 11:42:29 AM EDT
[#27]
The LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and there He placed the man that He formed. The LORD God  caused to grow out of the ground every tree pleasing in appearance and good for food, including the tree of life (or the Joshua tree) in the midst of the garden, as well as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (or the tree of the furthering human experience in the world).

A river went out from Eden (or from Paradise as it is an unchanging eternal place) to water the garden (or to water the garden in the sense of the coming realities for man; a mechanism concerning the events to come on the earth by design. The historical notion here concerning a "River Ocean" to physically explain this great water source is not correct; but cannot be considered to be diametrically opposed to the fact of the one time great oceanic sea, which once existed around a universal super-continent, in both their ages of acute formation and on the earth; existing together at one point in time, i.e. aeons of time passages between them).
From there it divided and became the source of four rivers (or the areas in which the men who would outlive Adam, or age of man, would begin soon after to proliferate on the earth).
The name of the first is Pishon, which encircles* the entire land of Havilah (or a place that had been spiritually overlaid on the earth for a time which contained both physical and spiritual characteristics much more apparent to the purely natural senses than as we know now: Paradise in Earth on Man i.e. the  garden; watered and nourished from Eden).
Gold from that land is pure (Lit good or better than any); bdellium (or  yellowish, transparent gum resin), and onyx (identity of this stone uncertain) are also there.

The name of the second is Gihon, which encircles* the entire land of Cush (or ancient Cush, in the same spiritual formation as Pishon its sister, which still survives partially underground for man's use to this very day in Jerusalem and with a great history behind it as it has been redirected or spiritually translated there to some degree for the historical benefit of Israel, and Judah, to this very day and is pure with historical claims of healing the infirmed, and other spiritual uses and ceremony also).

The name of the third is the Tigris, which flow to the east of Assyria (physically existent today). And the fourth river is the Euphrates (physically existent today).

Genesis 2: 8-15
Original Text Accounting: Moses the Legislator

God Creates and Brings Together Complete Sources to Combine into the Earth for Continuing Creation: Benefits for Mankind Revealed
*unnatural transitory features used for God's purposes on the land as He required them to operate for His continuing plan for us; to stir all of the elements into positions for formation, concerning inevitable circumstances to come on the earth according to their orders of manifestion.
Link Posted: 8/12/2014 3:32:58 PM EDT
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Where do you get Joshua tree from?
Link Posted: 8/12/2014 4:24:27 PM EDT
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From the fact that the "Tree of Life" contains among other things, the rudiments that God has always factored in for a plan of salvation potentially for the all of mankind. This knowledge is eternal and is bound by blood or the act of redemption of a kinsman upon a blood relative and is legally binding by the Law of God under these particular type circumstances of exchange.
In this case our "Family Redeemer" is the eternal Jesus Christ for us.
Christ died for us who will eternally be alive with Him forever because He died for us on a special cross so that by Christ's death on it, then this unconventional act would bear us up and so that we might have salvation through Him, and the forgiveness, love, and compassion, that only God can show us in this way because of what Jesus has eternally done for us making us a victor and champions of faith with Him.

The word of God or the Christian Bible proclaims that, "cursed is every man who hangs from a tree."

That tree, which produces eternal live in Jesus' physical death so that we might eternally live and show others this path of righteousness that only God can provide for any of us is this tree!

In the metaphysical reality also, it is that tree which Jesus (or Joshua: a YHWH designation of the Name) died on is in the spiritual realm is manifest, "The Tree of Life" as it is seen that way, in Christ, or in Him in the beauty, majesty, and the awesome act of His sacrifice in which its beauty and appeal have no rival from any other source, say for example, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil or any other.

Thus the Joshua Tree in its beauty, honor, and very great majesty forever!

God never let Adam have access to that One.
Benefits to mankind revealed: The Good News of Jesus Christ Always
Link Posted: 8/12/2014 5:18:33 PM EDT
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I see you typed a lot of words without answering the question. The Joshua tree, named by Mormons in the mid 19th century, is endemic to the Southwestern United States.
Link Posted: 8/12/2014 6:14:56 PM EDT
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First time that I have ever heard of that.

Don't really have much knowledge about the LDS other than what I have experienced here. What ever it is that you might be looking for you may not find to your satisfaction within this thread.
Where is it that you learned about this LDS history from?

You are a Christian correct?


Link Posted: 8/12/2014 6:46:20 PM EDT
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JOSHUA
GENDER: Masculine

USAGE: English, Biblical
OTHER SCRIPTS:  (Ancient Hebrew)

PRONOUNCED: JAH-sh?-w? (English), JAW-shw? (English)  

Meaning & History

From the Hebrew name (Yehoshu'a) meaning "YAHWEH is salvation". Joshua was one of the twelve spies sent into Canaan by Moses, as told in the Old Testament. After Moses died Joshua succeeded him as leader of the Israelites. As an English name, Joshua has been in use since the Protestant Reformation.
The name Jesus comes from a Greek translation of the Aramaic short form (Yeshu'a), which was the real name of Jesus.

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DIMINUTIVE: Josh (English)

OTHER LANGUAGES: Yeshua (Ancient Aramaic), Essa, Isa, Issa, Yushua (Arabic), Josu (Basque), Iesous (Biblical Greek), Yehoshua, Yeshua (Biblical Hebrew), Iesus, Iosue (Biblical Latin), Jozua (Dutch), Josué (French), Xesús (Galician), Iokua (Hawaiian), Yehoshua (Hebrew), Józsua (Hungarian), Giosuè (Italian), Josué (Portuguese), Jesús, Josué (Spanish), Jesus (Theology), Isa (Turkish)
Link Posted: 8/12/2014 7:08:29 PM EDT
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Jesus is a tree of life yielding clothing too. Adam went to the fig tree for his garments, and the fig leaves yielded him such covering as they could. But we come to Christ, and we find, not fig leaves, but a robe of righteousness that is matchless for its beauty, comely in its proportions, one which will never wear out, which exactly suits to cover our nakedness from head to foot;, and when we put it on makes us fair to look upon, even as Christ himself. O ye who would be rearrayed till ye shall be fit to stand amongst the courtiers of the skies, come ye to Jesus, and find garments such as you need upon this tree of life!
Christ the Tree of Life
by
C. H. Spurgeon
(1834-1892)

“In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river (or on either side of the river which floweth from heaven), was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and of the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.”  --Revelation 22:2
Link Posted: 8/15/2014 11:16:42 AM EDT
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The LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and there He placed the man that He formed. The LORD God  caused to grow out of the ground every tree pleasing in appearance and good for food, including the tree of life (or the Joshua tree) in the midst of the garden, as well as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (or the tree of the furthering human experience in the world).

A river went out from Eden (or from Paradise as it is an unchanging eternal place) to water the garden (or to water the garden in the sense of the coming realities for man; a mechanism concerning the events to come on the earth by design. The historical notion here concerning a "River Ocean" to physically explain this great water source is not correct; but cannot be considered to be diametrically opposed to the fact of the one time great oceanic sea, which once existed around a universal super-continent, in both their ages of acute formation and on the earth; existing together at one point in time, i.e. aeons of time passages between them).
From there it divided and became the source of four rivers (or the areas in which the men who would outlive Adam, or age of man, would begin soon after to proliferate on the earth).
The name of the first is Pishon, which encircles* the entire land of Havilah (or a place that had been spiritually overlaid on the earth for a time which contained both physical and spiritual characteristics much more apparent to the purely natural senses than as we know now: Paradise in Earth on Man i.e. the  garden; watered and nourished from Eden).
Gold from that land is pure (Lit good or better than any); bdellium (or  yellowish, transparent gum resin), and onyx (identity of this stone uncertain) are also there.

The name of the second is Gihon, which encircles* the entire land of Cush (or ancient Cush, in the same spiritual formation as Pishon its sister, which still survives partially underground for man's use to this very day in Jerusalem and with a great history behind it as it has been redirected or spiritually translated there to some degree for the historical benefit of Israel, and Judah, to this very day and is pure with historical claims of healing the infirmed, and other spiritual uses and ceremony also).

The name of the third is the Tigris, which flow to the east of Assyria (physically existent today). And the fourth river is the Euphrates (physically existent today).

Genesis 2: 8-15
Original Text Accounting: Moses the Legislator

God Creates and Brings Together Complete Sources to Combine into the Earth for Continuing Creation: Benefits for Mankind Revealed
*unnatural transitory features used for God's purposes on the land as He required them to operate for His continuing plan for us; to stir all of the elements into positions for formation, concerning inevitable circumstances to come on the earth according to their orders of manifestion.
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The LORD God took the man  and placed him in the garden of Eden (or placed him in the garden that is watered by Eden); to work it and to watch over it. And the LORD commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden, but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for on the day you eat from it, you will certainly die."

The Accounting from the Beginning According to the Spirit of God in Moses the Legislator
Genesis 2: 15-17

God Places Man From other Location into the Garden: Warns Adam of the Consequences of Disobedience Toward His Maker
Link Posted: 8/17/2014 10:30:35 PM EDT
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Now the serpent was the most cunning of all of the wild animals that the LORD God had made.
He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You can't eat from any tree in the garden'?"
The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat the fruit of the trees in the garden.
But about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God said, 'You must not eat it or touch it, or you will die.' "

"No!
You will not die," the serpent told the woman.
"In fact, God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened and then you will be like God knowing good and evil."
Then the woman saw that the tree was good for food and delightful to look at, and was desirable for obtaining wisdom.
So she took some of the fruit and ate it; then she took some of it and gave it to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and the knew that they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made loincloths for themselves.

The Words of Moses the Legislator Through the Holy Spirit of God
Genesis 3: 1-7
The Temptation and the Fall
Link Posted: 8/19/2014 10:44:30 PM EDT
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Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze (Lit at the wind of the day or at the time of mixing), and they hid themselves from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. So the LORD God called out to the man and said to him, "Where are you?'' And he said, "I heard You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked (or because Adam had lost the spiritual covering which had covered his transgressions, now knowing evil; and having no power or protection over it as earthly good is not good enough to overcome evil as God does), so I hid.

Then God asked, "Who told you that you were naked? Did you eat from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?" Then the man (or now Adam Kadmon i.e. fallen man of the earth) replied, "The woman that You gave to be with me------she gave me some fruit from the tree and I ate." So then the LORD God asked the woman, "So what is this that you have done?" And the woman said, "It was the serpent. He deceived me, and I ate."

Then the LORD God said to the serpent (or to this fallen angel Lucifer and now Satan in his earthly position):

Because you have done this
you are cursed more than
any livestock (or you will be
thrown out without a grave)
and more than any wild
animal. You will move on your
belly and eat dust all the days
of your life (or all the days of
your life until final judgment
you will be bound to the earth).
I will put hostility between you
and the woman, and between
your seed (or the Nephilim i.e.
giants for God's people to
eradicate along with all who
oppose God), and her seed. He  
(Jesus Christ) will strike your head
(as in a blow of death), and you
will strike his heel (or strike his
heel but only with an intensity that
is not unto death).


The Words and Scroll of Moses the Legislator
Genesis 3: 1-15
The Consequences of Sin: Adam and Eve Cursed by God for Disobediance



Link Posted: 8/22/2014 10:10:49 PM EDT
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He (or God) said to the woman: I will intensify your labor pains; you will bear children in anguish (or in the reverse of what child bearing was meant to be without pain and labor children in great joy). Your desire will be for your husband (or your natural inclination about your husband will be to be equal as a covenant partner with him), yet he will dominate you (or yet now the serpent will pact with the man against you, just as you have done against the man already; and then ultimately you and the man against God together; so that God might destroy you both and thus break the word, as it has been eternally written, so that the serpent might escape altogether without judgment coming upon him).

And He (or God) said to Adam, "Because you have listened to your wife's voice and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'Do not eat from it': The ground is cursed because of you. You will eat from it by means of painful labor (Lit it through pain) all of the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. You will eat bread (or will sustain yourselves with food) by the sweat of your brow until you return to the ground, since you were taken from it.

For you are but dust, and you will return to dust."

The Old Testament Book of Genesis: First Book
Genesis 3: 16-19
The Consequences of Sin: God's Generational Curse on Adam and Eve


Link Posted: 8/25/2014 10:58:47 AM EDT
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Adam then named his wife Eve (Lit Living, or life) because she was the mother of all living. The LORD God made clothing out of animal skins for Adam and his wife, and then He clothed them. The LORD God said, "Since man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil, he must not reach out (or must not endeavor to know just yet), and also take from the tree of life (or knowledge concerning the man's future), and eat, and then live forever (or to live in a progressively more evil state from within the man; and live forever in torment by God's judgment upon the man to obey His Statutes, Laws, and Precepts with strict obedience, and executed with nothing less than perfection in less than an instant; as God does in the eternal state of being, and at all times, and in the earth as man now cannot do; because the man now has the knowledge on how to effectively rebel against God; even unto his physical death as his reward but not knowing why; because of the curse on him by God; which took knowledge away from the man by those spiritual impediments now on the man)."

So the LORD God sent Adam away from the garden of Eden (or sent them away by removing Paradise from them and back to God) to work the ground from which he was taken. He drove man out, and east of the garden of Eden God stationed cherubim (or military angels) with a flaming, whirling sword (or the word of God; not swords, but sword which projects itself out in all directions) to guard the way of the tree of life (or to guard the way of the tree of life which is located near the throne of God in heaven because of the removal of the spiritual man, and the rebelling angels from heaven; and away from the LORD God of Hosts, all for seditious acts against Him in heaven: The Rebellion; the kingdom of God).

Moses the Legislator
Genesis 3: 20-24
God Covers the Creation in a Physical and Different Way: Paradise Lost
Initial Covenant through the Shedding of Blood Established for the Man:
God First to Shed Blood on the Earth for the Benefit of Man
Link Posted: 8/30/2014 10:34:25 AM EDT
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Adam knew his wife intimately and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, she said, "I have had a male child with the LORD's help (or with a word or phrase of words which sounded like or contained the word or utterance "Cain")." Then she also gave birth to his brother Abel. Now Abel became a shepherd of a flock, but Cain cultivated the land. So in the course of time Cain presented some of the produce of the land as an offering to the LORD. And Abel also presented an offering------some of the first born of his flock and their fat portions (or fat portions according to a pleasant sacrifice on a burning alter). The LORD had regard for Abel and his offering, but he did not have regard for Cain and his offering.

Cain was furious and he was downcast.


First Old Testament Book of the Holy Bible; also recorded in: Scroll of Torah
Genesis 4: 1-5
Presentation of the Produce Offering and Presentation of the Flock Offering: Fat Portions


Link Posted: 9/1/2014 10:44:58 AM EDT
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Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you furious? And why are you downcast (or why has your countenance fallen or face fallen). If you do right (or if you team with your brother thus to make your offering complete) won't you be accepted (or won't you be declared righteous by standing with your brother according to God's glory for all people to come after you)? But, if you do not do what is right, then sin is crouching at the door (or sin is seeking to take control of your conscience and will win).

So some time latter Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out into the field."
And while they were out there in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.

The Accounting of Moses the Legislator
Genesis 4: 6-8
The Presentation of Offerings to the LORD: Cain Slays Abel: The Offering of Blood and Rebellion
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:19:10 PM EDT
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Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?" "I don't know," he replied. "Am I my brother's guardian (or keeper)?" Then the LORD God said to Cain, "What is this that you have done? Your brother's blood cries out to Me from the ground! So now you have been cursed with alienation (or now have received alienation as you payment for murder) from the ground that opened up its mouth to receive your brothers blood that you have shed. So if you work the land, it will never again give you its yield. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth."

But Cain answered the LORD, "My punishment (or my sin) is too great to bear! Since You are banishing me today from the soil, I must now hide myself from Your presence and become a restless wanderer on the earth, so now whoever finds me will kill me." Then the LORD replied to him, "In that case then, whoever kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over (or suffer severely for their offense against Cain)."
So God placed a mark (or a mark of distinction) on Cain so whoever found him (or found him human or spiritual creature alike) would not kill (or kill or maim) him.Then Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

The Writings of Moses the Legislator
Genesis 4: 9-16
Cain is Judged and Cursed By God: Cain: Vagabond and Wanderer
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 9:37:01 PM EDT
[#42]
Cain was intimate with his wife, and she conceived and gave birth to Enoch. Then Cain became the builder of a city, and he named the city Enoch after his son. Irad was born to Enoch, Irad fathered Mehujael, Mehujael fathered Methushael, and Methushael fathered Lamech. Lamech took two wives for himself, one named Adah and the other named Zillah. Adah bore Jabal; he was the father of the nomadic herdsmen. His brother was named Jubal; he was the father of all who play the lyre and the flute. Zillah bore Tubal-cain, who made all kinds of bronze and iron tools. Tubal-cain’s sister was Naamah.

Lamech said to his wives:
Adah and Zillah, hear my voice;
wives of Lamech, pay attention to my words.

For I killed a man for wounding me,
a young man for striking me.
If Cain is to be avenged seven times over,
then for Lamech it will be seventy-seven times!

Adam was intimate with his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, for she said, “God has givent me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him.” A son was born to Seth also, and he named him Enosh. At that time people began to call on the name of Yahweh.

The First Old Testament Book of the Holy Bible
Genesis 4: 17-26
Genealogical Account: Cain through Enosh
Link Posted: 9/9/2014 11:23:08 AM EDT
[#43]
So these are the family records of the descendants of Adam. On the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God; He created them male and female. When they were created, he blessed them and called them man (or Adam or earthly people).

Adam was 130 years old when he fathered a child in his likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth. Adam lived 800 years after the birth of Seth, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So, Adams life lasted (or physical self) 930 years; then he died (or  then he physically died).

Seth was 105 years old when he fathered Enosh. Seth lived 807 years after the birth of Enosh, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Seth's life lasted 912 years; then he died.

Enosh was 90 years old when he fathered Kenan. Enosh lived 815 years after the birth of Kenan, and he fathered other sons and daughters.

The Transcription of Moses the Legislator
Genesis 5: 1-9
The Initiation: The Line of Seth; Seth---Enosh---Kenan
Link Posted: 9/11/2014 9:55:52 PM EDT
[#44]
So Enosh's life lasted 905 years; and then he died. Kenan was 70 years old when he fathered Mahalalel.
Kenan lived 840 yeqrs after the birth of Mahalalel, and he fathered other sons and daughters, so Kenan's life lasted 910 years; and then he died.
Now Mahalalel was 65 years old when he fathered Jared. Mahalalel lived 830 years after the birth of Jared and fathered other sons and daughters.
So Mahalalel's life lasted 895 years; and then he died.

The Genealogical Account According to the Scroll of Moses the Legislator
Genesis 5: 11-18
Linage Through Seth: Enosh> Kenan> Mahalalel
Link Posted: 9/12/2014 11:47:06 AM EDT
[#45]
Jared was 162 years old when he fathered Enoch, Jared lived 800 years after the birth of Enoch, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Jared's life lasted 962 years; and then he died.
Enoch was 65 years old when he fathered Methuselah. And after the birth of Methuselah, Enoch walked with God 300 years and fathered sons and daughters. So Enoch's life lasted 365 years.
Enoch walked with God, and then he was not there, because God took him.

The Genealogical Line from Jared to Enoch: Transcription of Moses
Genesis 5: 18-24
God Takes Enoch: First Man to Experience God's Translation: Enoch Caught Up and Away into the kingdom of God
Link Posted: 9/14/2014 12:56:53 PM EDT
[#46]
Methuselah was 187 years old when he fathered Lamech. Methuselah lived 782 years after the birth of Lamech, and fathered other sons and daughters. So Methuselah's life lasted 969 years (or has lived the longest life of any human being to this very day); then he died.

Lamech was 182 years old when he fathered a son. And he named him Noah, saying, "This one will bring us relief (The Hb word translated bring us relief sounds like the name of Noah) from the agonizing labor of our hands, caused by the ground the LORD has cursed." Lamech lived 595 years after Noah's birth, and he fathered other sons and daughters. So Lamech's life lasted 777 years; then he died.

Noah was 500 years old, and he fathered Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

The First Book of the Old Testament of the Holy Bible
Genesis 5: 25-32
The Genealogical Line of Methuselah Through Noah: God has Finally Brought Relief
Link Posted: 9/15/2014 9:53:55 AM EDT
[#47]
When mankind began to multiply on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God (or fallen angels placed on the earth back in those days) saw that the daughters of man (or the human woman) were beautiful (or were beholding to the eye), and they took any (or took any according to any means available) as they chose as wives (or concubines or slaves), for themselves. And the LORD said, "My Spirit will not remain (or remain to strive peacefully) with mankind forever, because they are corrupt (or because they are now worthy of not living any longer according to the flesh and its ways). Their days (or from now on their lifespans will be reduced except due to special circumstances according to God's glory) will be 120 years.

The Transcription of Moses the Legislator
Genesis 6: 1-3
Sons of God and Daughters of Men
Link Posted: 9/17/2014 9:36:19 AM EDT
[#48]
The Nephilim ("fallen ones" traditionally giants) were on the earth both in those days and afterwards (or before and after the great flood), when the sons of God (or fallen angels; demonic entities operating in the physical realm) came to the daughters of man, who bore children to them.

They were the powerful men of old (or of ancient times on the earth), the famous men (or the men of renown; or the men who had the capability of greatly influencing  ordinary or the typical men of those times).

The Transcription of Moses to Scroll as word of God to Men
Genesis 6: 4
Sons of God and Daughters of Men
Link Posted: 9/19/2014 12:35:47 AM EDT
[#49]
So when the LORD saw that man's wickedness was widespread on the earth and that every scheme his mind thought of was nothing but evil (or lawlessness) all of the time, so the Lord regretted that He had made man (or by the way He regretted watching man degrade himself in his sin, waxing worse on all occasions to his demise and degradation) on the earth (or on the earth as it too was corrupt and imperfect like the man and in retrograde), and He grieved in His heart.

The Word of Moses Through the Spirit of God Unto All Men
Genesis 6: 5-6
Judgment Decreed: The Lord God Grieves Concerning Man
Link Posted: 9/21/2014 10:20:45 AM EDT
[#50]
Then the LORD said, "I will wipe off the face of the earth: man, whom I created, together with the animals, creatures that crawl, and the birds of the sky------for I regret that I made them.''
Noah, however, found favor in the eyes of the LORD.
These are the family records of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless among his contemporaries (or among the other men or peers of his day); Noah walked with God.

The Transcription of Moses the Legislator
Genesis 6: 7-9
The Lord Decrees Judgment: Noah will Live
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