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Posted: 10/15/2014 9:39:49 PM EDT
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I'll help you all I can. I want one for you too.
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Posted: 10/15/2014 10:09:35 PM EDT
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Syclone
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Posted: 10/15/2014 10:11:55 PM EDT
[#3]
s-10 with a solid front axle. and T-case of your choice.
or a ranger. ETA: its do-able but how much time/money are you willing to spend? |
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Posted: 10/15/2014 11:15:03 PM EDT
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Wrangler Rubicon. /thread
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Posted: 10/16/2014 12:26:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrangler Rubicon. /thread |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 12:43:30 AM EDT
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So let me see if I have this straight
You want a small pickup that gets really bad mileage and somehow manages to incorporate AWD AND manual hubs????? I think you need to bone up on your acronyms more |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 1:01:38 AM EDT
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s-10 with a solid front axle. and T-case of your choice. or a ranger. ETA: its do-able but how much time/money are you willing to spend? This. But at that point why not go with a full sized truck? |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:58:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: because that is a ranger sized pickup. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wrangler Rubicon. /thread |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:36:41 AM EDT
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Why AWD instead of 4WD with a selectable t-case? What's the point of mixing AWD with manual hubs?
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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:37:46 AM EDT
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This. But at that point why not go with a full sized truck? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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s-10 with a solid front axle. and T-case of your choice. or a ranger. ETA: its do-able but how much time/money are you willing to spend? This. But at that point why not go with a full sized truck? Can't speak for the OP, but I don't want a full-sized truck. I like the compactness of my Ranger, it has nothing to do with cost. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:48:58 AM EDT
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Well jeep has a supposed plan for 2017??? to drop in a diesel in the wrangler. I wouldn't be terribly shocked if they did a scrambler body with it. Would be a badass combo.
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Posted: 10/16/2014 12:47:47 PM EDT
[#12]
Ridgeline
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Posted: 10/16/2014 1:19:48 PM EDT
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What kind of mileage we talking? My wore out 200k mile Ranger gets at best 24 mpg and thats 2 wd. I have had full size F250's and a bronco and that 14-16 mpg sucks balls.
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Posted: 10/16/2014 1:35:21 PM EDT
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I want AWD so I don't have to turn the knob to 4WD High when I am making turns on wet slippery pavement.
I want 50/50 power distribution so I don't have the problems that a 70/30 or 80/20 split AWD system has. My wife's Mazda CX7 has AWD with 50/50 power distribution and it works great. I want a small Ranger sized pickup truck because I don't need a full sized pickup truck and it's fucking way cheaper than a similarly equipped full sized pickup truck. Ford can put an eco-boosted 3 liter V6 in it for good gas milage. I am not hauling a 50 foot camper or a one ton load of rocks. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 1:38:32 PM EDT
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I would buy a Jeep pickup truck if they made it.
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:43:09 PM EDT
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AWD and manual locking hubs are kind of a polar opposite of things. You want the AWD to kick in when it needs to, but you want manual hubs to completely defeat that purpose? (assuming you meant manual hubs.)
I know its not the size your looking for, nor is it a truck, but by Expedition has Auto AWD. put it in that mode, and its 2wd until AWD is needed. That mode does drink more gas, but in the winter slop, its nice. Still retains 4hi and 4lo as well. I love Rangers. Ive owned many. But I see why Ford killed it. Its either a gas mileage truck in 2wd reg cab short box 5 speed, and has the payload of a pack of playing cards, or its a 4wd truck that gets worse mileage than an F150. That being said. I still like them. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:45:32 PM EDT
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Why couldn't you just find a used Ranger and transplant a 50/50 awd transfer case and the appropriate front axle to go with it?
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:46:06 PM EDT
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Well jeep has a supposed plan for 2017??? to drop in a diesel in the wrangler. I wouldn't be terribly shocked if they did a scrambler body with it. Would be a badass combo. I would be very shocked. I am very disappoint with Heep. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:46:33 PM EDT
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I want AWD so I don't have to turn the knob to 4WD High when I am making turns on wet slippery pavement. I want 50/50 power distribution so I don't have the problems that a 70/30 or 80/20 split AWD system has. My wife's Mazda CX7 has AWD with 50/50 power distribution and it works great. I want a small Ranger sized pickup truck because I don't need a full sized pickup truck and it's fucking way cheaper than a similarly equipped full sized pickup truck. Ford can put an eco-boosted 3 liter V6 in it for good gas milage. I am not hauling a 50 foot camper or a one ton load of rocks. But then you want hubs? |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 3:06:06 PM EDT
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But then you want hubs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want AWD so I don't have to turn the knob to 4WD High when I am making turns on wet slippery pavement. I want 50/50 power distribution so I don't have the problems that a 70/30 or 80/20 split AWD system has. My wife's Mazda CX7 has AWD with 50/50 power distribution and it works great. I want a small Ranger sized pickup truck because I don't need a full sized pickup truck and it's fucking way cheaper than a similarly equipped full sized pickup truck. Ford can put an eco-boosted 3 liter V6 in it for good gas milage. I am not hauling a 50 foot camper or a one ton load of rocks. But then you want hubs? IKR. So much fail for one post and I'm ashamed everyone hasn't caught on yet |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 3:32:13 PM EDT
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Why couldn't you just find a used Ranger and transplant a 50/50 awd transfer case and the appropriate front axle to go with it? Because I don't want to fuck around with it. I want a new truck. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 3:33:34 PM EDT
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But then you want hubs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want AWD so I don't have to turn the knob to 4WD High when I am making turns on wet slippery pavement. I want 50/50 power distribution so I don't have the problems that a 70/30 or 80/20 split AWD system has. My wife's Mazda CX7 has AWD with 50/50 power distribution and it works great. I want a small Ranger sized pickup truck because I don't need a full sized pickup truck and it's fucking way cheaper than a similarly equipped full sized pickup truck. Ford can put an eco-boosted 3 liter V6 in it for good gas milage. I am not hauling a 50 foot camper or a one ton load of rocks. But then you want hubs? I don't want manual go outside locking hubs, I want the pushbutton in the cab kind. What's wrong with that? |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 3:34:24 PM EDT
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So much fail for one post and I'm ashamed everyone hasn't caught on yet OK Mr. Expert, tell me why there is so much fail in my request? |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 3:37:53 PM EDT
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I don't want manual go outside locking hubs, I want the pushbutton in the cab kind. What's wrong with that? Why? Most trucks dont even have locking hubs anymore |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 3:39:31 PM EDT
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What kind of mileage we talking? My wore out 200k mile Ranger gets at best 24 mpg and thats 2 wd. I have had full size F250's and a bronco and that 14-16 mpg sucks balls. My lifted 208k 4wd ranger gets about 17mpg. On a good tank. 
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Posted: 10/16/2014 3:47:51 PM EDT
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Ridgeline He said pickup truck, not minivan. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 4:04:56 PM EDT
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Why? Most trucks dont even have locking hubs anymore Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't want manual go outside locking hubs, I want the pushbutton in the cab kind. What's wrong with that? Why? Most trucks dont even have locking hubs anymore I did not know that. 
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:13:52 PM EDT
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OP I think what you want is a full time 4wd pickup (which has a central differential) which would let you use it on dry roads. Forget about manual hubs.
This is what you're looking for: 
*not available in the USA **You could always get a Honda Ridgeline 
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:16:49 PM EDT
[#29]
Why would you want 50/50 power distribution on a vehicle that doesn't have a 50/50 weight distribution?
Why would you want 50/50 power distribution on a modern vehicle anyways? |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:21:59 PM EDT
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OK Mr. Expert, tell me why there is so much fail in my request? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So much fail for one post and I'm ashamed everyone hasn't caught on yet OK Mr. Expert, tell me why there is so much fail in my request? Locking hubs disengage the connection between the wheel hub and axle stub putting the connection in NEUTRAL so to speak. How is this supposed to work with full time AWD? 50-50 power distribution? You just described pretty much EVERY non AWD transfer case in existence since FWD motors introduced 4x4 at the beginning of the last century |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:29:49 PM EDT
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I did not know that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't want manual go outside locking hubs, I want the pushbutton in the cab kind. What's wrong with that? Why? Most trucks dont even have locking hubs anymore I did not know that. Chevy has the hubs turning all the time. it disengages at the transfer case for 2wd |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:39:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chevy has the hubs turning all the time. it disengages at the transfer case for 2wd Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't want manual go outside locking hubs, I want the pushbutton in the cab kind. What's wrong with that? Why? Most trucks dont even have locking hubs anymore I did not know that. Chevy has the hubs turning all the time. it disengages at the transfer case for 2wd Generic gogle pic.  |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:42:44 PM EDT
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Odd my blazer and trailblazer have the awd option on the t-case. The front axle is never locked in unless it is in a4wd or 4x4. Generic gogle pic. http://www.roadie.org/4wdswitch.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why? Most trucks dont even have locking hubs anymore I did not know that. Chevy has the hubs turning all the time. it disengages at the transfer case for 2wd Generic gogle pic. http://www.roadie.org/4wdswitch.jpg 2500 for me... the half tons do something like that i cant remember how it works. Random person: AUTO 4WD locks up the front diff to the front axle shafts(do not confuse this with a locked differential), but the transfer case cluth remains unlocked until the rear end slips. All it is locking is the transfer case clutch when the truck slips. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:34:48 AM EDT
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So I am tarded.
How about this - I own a 2011 Ford Ranger. I am tired of locking the truck into 4x4 high every time the road is slippery from water, especially when turning onto high speed roads or crossing highways. The rear end of the truck is always slipping when driving under those types of conditions. The limited slip differential really does not help in these types of situations. I would like a Ford Ranger sized light pickup truck that has AWD so I don't have keep locking and unlocking the 4x4. I am not towing anything, I want to toss a couple of dirt bikes in the back along with my gear (like I do with my Ranger 4x4). Turbo 4 banger Eco-Boost, 4 liter 6 banger, diesel for the engine.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:39:21 AM EDT
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you want an AWD with locking hubs that you don't need to put into 4x4?
did you wake up with a crack pipe in your mouth? |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:50:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you want an AWD with locking hubs that you don't need to put into 4x4? did you wake up with a crack pipe in your mouth? Did you bother to read and comprehend my post right above yours? It seems you're the one who woke up with something in their mouth.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 2:46:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I am tarded. How about this - I own a 2011 Ford Ranger. I am tired of locking the truck into 4x4 high every time the road is slippery from water, especially when turning onto high speed roads or crossing highways. The rear end of the truck is always slipping when driving under those types of conditions. The limited slip differential really does not help in these types of situations. I would like a Ford Ranger sized light pickup truck that has AWD so I don't have keep locking and unlocking the 4x4. I am not towing anything, I want to toss a couple of dirt bikes in the back along with my gear (like I do with my Ranger 4x4). Turbo 4 banger Eco-Boost, 4 liter 6 banger, diesel for the engine. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 5:05:29 PM EDT
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How about this - I own a 2011 Ford Ranger. I am tired of locking the truck into 4x4 high every time the road is slippery from water, especially when turning onto high speed roads or crossing highways. The rear end of the truck is always slipping when driving under those types of conditions. The limited slip differential really does not help in these types of situations. I would like a Ford Ranger sized light pickup truck that has AWD so I don't have keep locking and unlocking the 4x4. I am not towing anything, I want to toss a couple of dirt bikes in the back along with my gear (like I do with my Ranger 4x4). Turbo 4 banger Eco-Boost, 4 liter 6 banger, diesel for the engine. Sounds like you need better tires or to stop driving like a teenager. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I am tarded.
I own a 2011 Ford Ranger. I am tired of locking the truck into 4x4 high every time the road is slippery from water, especially when turning onto high speed roads or crossing highways. The rear end of the truck is always slipping when driving under those types of conditions. The limited slip differential really does not help in these types of situations. I would like a Ford Ranger sized light pickup truck that has AWD so I don't have keep locking and unlocking the 4x4. I am not towing anything, I want to toss a couple of dirt bikes in the back along with my gear (like I do with my Ranger 4x4). Turbo 4 banger Eco-Boost, 4 liter 6 banger, diesel for the engine. Sounds like you need better tires or to stop driving like a teenager. This And trade the ranger in on a ford transit van because honestly FWD sounds like more your thing |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 7:20:02 PM EDT
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Too bad Subaru doesn't make a Brat anymore. Sounds like that's what you want haha.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:20:41 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Too bad Subaru doesn't make a Brat anymore. Sounds like that's what you want haha. My dad had a brat for 21 years, until it blew an engine. If Subaru made a brat that could haul two dirt bikes, two riders and all the gear and was AWD with a 6 banger I would buy it.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:56:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about this - Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So I am tarded. How about this - I own a 2011 Ford Ranger. I am tired of locking the truck into 4x4 high every time the road is slippery from water, especially when turning onto high speed roads or crossing highways. The rear end of the truck is always slipping when driving under those types of conditions. The limited slip differential really does not help in these types of situations. I would like a Ford Ranger sized light pickup truck that has AWD so I don't have keep locking and unlocking the 4x4. I am not towing anything, I want to toss a couple of dirt bikes in the back along with my gear (like I do with my Ranger 4x4). Turbo 4 banger Eco-Boost, 4 liter 6 banger, diesel for the engine. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:51:33 PM EDT
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I had an old 88 ranger 4x4 and even with the skinny ass car tires that were on it I never had problems in the rain. To be fair, it has less power than a 2011 V-6, but the 2011 V6's numbers are not that high anyways. Closer to what my 98 mustang 6 cyl had, and that didn't have much issue in the rain either.
Till I drove like a bat out of hell drifting on purpose |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:53:06 PM EDT
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http://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-Wrangler-Authority-Tire-LT265-70R17/11983163
Don't know what size, but great tires. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:15:17 PM EDT
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My 2003 loves to get sideways on wet pavement if I'm not careful with the throttle.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:34:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My dad had a brat for 21 years, until it blew an engine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Too bad Subaru doesn't make a Brat anymore. Sounds like that's what you want haha. My dad had a brat for 21 years, until it blew an engine. If Subaru made a brat that could haul two dirt bikes, two riders and all the gear and was AWD with a 6 banger I would buy it. My daily driver here in Anchorage is a Legacy wagon. Also have an F350 for the heavy stuff. Wife has a Tacoma Doublecab. Down in Washington I have a Cheby K3500 and the wife has a Camry. That's where I need a daily driver and one of the new Subaru Outbacks will fit the bill. YMMV. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:17:18 PM EDT
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I want AWD so I don't have to turn the knob to 4WD High when I am making turns on wet slippery pavement. I want 50/50 power distribution so I don't have the problems that a 70/30 or 80/20 split AWD system has. My wife's Mazda CX7 has AWD with 50/50 power distribution and it works great. I want a small Ranger sized pickup truck because I don't need a full sized pickup truck and it's fucking way cheaper than a similarly equipped full sized pickup truck. Ford can put an eco-boosted 3 liter V6 in it for good gas milage. I am not hauling a 50 foot camper or a one ton load of rocks. My wife's Tahoe had a NP246 (I think) that was auto-4wd with part-time and low-range. The case for it exists, unless you want full-time AWD, then part time... then you're shit out of luck. However, that being said, manual hubs aren't an option in that situation. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 8:38:44 PM EDT
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But at that point why not go with a full sized truck? Maybe they don't want to drive a full size truck. Full size trucks tend to be, you know, full sized. I spend a lot of time driving in places where a full size is just going to end up looking like a crushed soup can, assuming it can even make it. The US market doesn't have any small offroad capable vehicles with utilitarian cargo spaces available anymore. I really wish I could get a bit longer wheelbase Suzuki Jimny with a pickup or stake bed on the back; that would be about perfect. You pretty much have to make your own. There is no reason they have to be gas hogs. Part of the problem is that auto makers don't think Americans will put up with suspensions that can actually carry things in a small platform. (maybe they're right). |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 11:46:37 AM EDT
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My 2003 loves to get sideways on wet pavement if I'm not careful with the throttle. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I absolutely hate my 2002 Edge w/4.0L v6. Thing has zero traction (2wd) on anything even slightly damp or sandy. Sits and spins one side or the other.
And it will 'step out' quite easily. I should have sold it long ago. Currently it sits in "semi retired" mode in the drive. Used for the rare 'haul things' bit.
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Posted: 10/26/2014 12:23:08 PM EDT
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AWD is for soccer moms driving honda CRV's Real Men Don't Eat Quiche 
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Posted: 10/26/2014 2:58:51 PM EDT
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Normally in not a fan of small trucks in such formats and have made my opinion well known on the subject.
But tying into this thread over the weekend I practically had this truck given to me. 96 3.0 5speed Electronic shift "on the fly" with manual hubs is a bit of an oxymoron but the reliability over auto hubs is nice. As to getting squirrelly..well with 3.73 gears, 30" tires and a powerhouse 3.0 well...it's a non issue. 
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