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Posted: 6/29/2016 3:38:40 PM EDT
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Not sure how to tell 1st to 2nd gen aside from looking at them. The 2nd gen as I understand comes with a bolt catch. First gen you'll just see a smooth side where the spacer is...
As for your build idea, I'd say you are doing it right piece mealing it. I bought mine complete and it seems like every time I turn around it annoys me. Latest thing is I decided to replace the FSB with a railed one so I could put a folding sight on it... Nope... gas port shelf is about half the length of a standard one, so all the railed gas blocks are too long, so I'd need to replace he barrel too... friggin money pit of a gun... so as I said above... your doing it right by piece mealing it. As to the optic height, ultimately you have to decide how you want to handle it. The one in the pic you posted has a cheek riser for a reason. Standard height irons and red dot mounts are just too high. You might be wise to get a railed GB and get the Scorpion rail sights - that would be my choice over the cheek riser. Of course with a cheek riser, you will also want a side charger instead of the t-handle..... Do you see where I am going with this?? These things are honestly plain annoying... not a lot of choices, but dayum... |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 4:34:27 PM EDT
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It's a good looking setup, but I've seen a few people with Magpul AFGs on their "featureless" builds which could get them into trouble.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 4:36:51 PM EDT
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It's a good looking setup, but I've seen a few people with Magpul AFGs on their "featureless" builds which could get them into trouble. "Second Handgrip or Protruding Grip that can be held by non-shooting hand" Yeah I will leave the AFG off. I prefer a normal handguard grip anyway. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 4:37:42 PM EDT
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Not sure how to tell 1st to 2nd gen aside from looking at them. The 2nd gen as I understand comes with a bolt catch. First gen you'll just see a smooth side where the spacer is... As for your build idea, I'd say you are doing it right piece mealing it. I bought mine complete and it seems like every time I turn around it annoys me. Latest thing is I decided to replace the FSB with a railed one so I could put a folding sight on it... Nope... gas port shelf is about half the length of a standard one, so all the railed gas blocks are too long, so I'd need to replace he barrel too... friggin money pit of a gun... so as I said above... your doing it right by piece mealing it. As to the optic height, ultimately you have to decide how you want to handle it. The one in the pic you posted has a cheek riser for a reason. Standard height irons and red dot mounts are just too high. You might be wise to get a railed GB and get the Scorpion rail sights - that would be my choice over the cheek riser. Of course with a cheek riser, you will also want a side charger instead of the t-handle..... Do you see where I am going with this?? These things are honestly plain annoying... not a lot of choices, but dayum... Good info thanks! Yeah I am buying a separate upper so I can taylor it all to my wants. Yeah, the height of an Aimpoint with the LaRue RAS II (low mount) should work...I may buy a Triad stock pouch too, which would raise the cheek weld a little too. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 6:43:50 PM EDT
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I dunno. That "68" looks pretty scary, and might be illegal here in NY. I'd leave it off.
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Posted: 6/30/2016 10:08:44 AM EDT
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That's exactly what I built. Dropped a featureless upper on it and away I went. I got one with a good trigger but I still had to buy the bolt catch.
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Posted: 6/30/2016 10:09:42 AM EDT
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That's exactly what I built. Dropped a featureless upper on it and away I went. I got one with a good trigger but I still had to buy the bolt catch. [%|
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:56:25 PM EDT
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How is it that all of "us" dont have featureless uppers lying around? I know I have a few left over from the "good old days".
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Posted: 6/30/2016 3:39:04 PM EDT
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How is it that all of "us" dont have featureless uppers lying around? I know I have a few left over from the "good old days". Well when they made compensators and brakes (breaks?  ) a banned feature, that killed a lot of our "featureless" uppers...
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Posted: 7/5/2016 3:38:40 AM EDT
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Why do you need a "feature-less" upper on it? I thought the lack of a PG makes it so you can have the most evil-est upper you can find at 16" or more.
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Posted: 7/5/2016 5:33:54 AM EDT
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Why do you need a "feature-less" upper on it? I thought the lack of a PG makes it so you can have the most evil-est upper you can find at 16" or more. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Nope, detachable mag is the 1 feature add another and it is an "assault weapon". |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 5:51:15 AM EDT
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Nope, detachable mag is the 1 feature add another and it is an "assault weapon". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you need a "feature-less" upper on it? I thought the lack of a PG makes it so you can have the most evil-est upper you can find at 16" or more. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Nope, detachable mag is the 1 feature add another and it is an "assault weapon". Well that's gay. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/5/2016 1:28:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that's gay. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why do you need a "feature-less" upper on it? I thought the lack of a PG makes it so you can have the most evil-est upper you can find at 16" or more. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Nope, detachable mag is the 1 feature add another and it is an "assault weapon". Well that's gay. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/6/2016 3:07:11 AM EDT
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Yea, thats what I mean. You need one of the old AWB uppers with the target crown barrel, no bayo lug. Thats what I am talking about, why doesnt anybody else ave 3 or 4 sitting around? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you need a "feature-less" upper on it? I thought the lack of a PG makes it so you can have the most evil-est upper you can find at 16" or more. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Nope, detachable mag is the 1 feature add another and it is an "assault weapon". Well that's gay. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Are pinned brakes still allowed, or did the SAFE Act squash that, too? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/6/2016 3:11:52 AM EDT
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Are pinned brakes still allowed, or did the SAFE Act squash that, too? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you need a "feature-less" upper on it? I thought the lack of a PG makes it so you can have the most evil-est upper you can find at 16" or more. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Nope, detachable mag is the 1 feature add another and it is an "assault weapon". Well that's gay. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Are pinned brakes still allowed, or did the SAFE Act squash that, too? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Did they fix their spelling mistakes? |
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Posted: 7/6/2016 3:23:21 AM EDT
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Maybe brakes are now allowed, and breaks are banned? That would work in our favor.
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Posted: 7/6/2016 5:37:33 AM EDT
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Brakes are illegal, appellate court said misspelling = you know what we meant
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Posted: 7/7/2016 11:31:02 AM EDT
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458 SOCOM for hunting in NY
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Posted: 7/7/2016 11:37:19 AM EDT
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458 SOCOM for hunting in NYhttp://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w460/nichmgn/458%20SOCOM_zps7b3z5ia2.jpg Nice!!! I would love one in 6.8 or .458, but the ammo is what? Over $1 a shot? Not exactly a plinking gun. |
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Posted: 7/7/2016 3:12:15 PM EDT
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458 SOCOM for hunting in NYhttp://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w460/nichmgn/458%20SOCOM_zps7b3z5ia2.jpg is that front heavy while your holding it ? |
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Posted: 7/7/2016 3:21:17 PM EDT
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I wish Ares would do a .308 lower.
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Posted: 7/7/2016 4:28:23 PM EDT
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I wish Ares would do a .308 lower. And I wish Cumhole ass cancer with AIDS complications. 
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Posted: 7/7/2016 5:06:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I wish Cumhole ass cancer with AIDS complications. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wish Ares would do a .308 lower. And I wish Cumhole ass cancer with AIDS complications. |
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Posted: 7/7/2016 5:18:14 PM EDT
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I wish Ares would do a .308 lower. And I wish Cumhole ass cancer with AIDS complications.
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Posted: 7/7/2016 6:10:07 PM EDT
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Yea, thats what I mean. You need one of the old AWB uppers with the target crown barrel, no bayo lug. Thats what I am talking about, why doesnt anybody else ave 3 or 4 sitting around? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you need a "feature-less" upper on it? I thought the lack of a PG makes it so you can have the most evil-est upper you can find at 16" or more. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Nope, detachable mag is the 1 feature add another and it is an "assault weapon". Well that's gay. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Because we labbed our molons. |
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Posted: 7/7/2016 7:02:22 PM EDT
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not really
the long handguard lets you grasp it quite a ways out |
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Posted: 7/7/2016 8:47:16 PM EDT
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not really the long handguard lets you grasp it quite a ways out thanks |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 10:11:58 PM EDT
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Yeah, the height of an Aimpoint with the LaRue RAS II (low mount) should work...I may buy a Triad stock pouch too, which would raise the cheek weld a little too. Get the Monti Carlo stock. With a stock pad it's high enough to use standard AR sights. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 9:16:24 AM EDT
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OK I am going to pull the trigger.
Where can I buy just the lower? And how will I know I am buying the 2nd generation version with the last round bolt catch and improved trigger? |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 12:29:13 PM EDT
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OK I am going to pull the trigger. Where can I buy just the lower? And how will I know I am buying the 2nd generation version with the last round bolt catch and improved trigger? Your local gun store should be able to order one for you, unless of course you need it right now
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Posted: 7/12/2016 3:26:46 PM EDT
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Why do you need a "feature-less" upper on it? I thought the lack of a PG makes it so you can have the most evil-est upper you can find at 16" or more. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Nope, detachable mag is the 1 feature add another and it is an "assault weapon". Well that's gay. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Because we labbed our molons. I LOL'd |
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