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Posted: 4/26/2016 12:50:36 PM EDT
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It's a tarp!
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:26:21 PM EDT
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Glad you didn't make the news!
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Posted: 4/26/2016 6:11:46 PM EDT
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How does your secured handgun box end up on the other end? Does it just come down the shoot with all the other luggage where anyone can pick it up?
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Posted: 4/26/2016 6:18:10 PM EDT
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What county is your permit out of if we may ask? The City or the rest of the state?
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Posted: 4/26/2016 6:39:35 PM EDT
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he hasnt returned yet.. so stay tuned.
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Posted: 4/26/2016 8:04:41 PM EDT
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he hasnt returned yet.. so stay tuned. 
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Posted: 4/26/2016 10:40:45 PM EDT
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Permit is in Putnam not NYC, the luggage just comes down the baggage claim like always. I used a carry-on sized pelican http://www.pelican.com/us/en/product/watertight-protector-hard-cases/medium-case/laptop-case/1510LOC/ with heavy locks to transport my gun and all of my peripheral gear, shipped my carry ammo down and purchased some to shoot while I was there some of which I brought back with me.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 12:00:09 AM EDT
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Great to read.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:30:44 AM EDT
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I've flown out of Islip with multiple handguns and other than a Suffolk PD guy confiscating my Mags worth of PDX-1's (
 ) it was really quite painless. Im friends with a TSA sergeant and she saw me on line waiting to declare and loudly proclaimed to the other TSA guys "watch out for that guy - he's trouble" as she pointed to me....Ha
What bothered me more was the return from Tampa. The "regular" check in girl had me open my luggage AND pistol box on the regular "Queue" in front of all passengers. People on line flipped the shit out and some actually said "Jesus Christ hes got a bunch of guns on the plane".....I would of thought that look see would have been handled in a TSA room or something. My luggage (With the pistols inside) came out in regular baggaga claim carousels when I landed |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 9:49:27 AM EDT
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My experience was drama free both in NYC and Dallas, the inspection to verify that the pistols are unloaded takes place right at the ticket counter after which the agent gives you the declaration tag to sign. In Texas they did not even want to see that it was unloaded took my word for it gave me the tag to sign which I then placed in the case.
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Posted: 4/28/2016 8:28:47 AM EDT
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My experience was drama free both in NYC and Dallas, the inspection to verify that the pistols are unloaded takes place right at the ticket counter after which the agent gives you the declaration tag to sign. In Texas they did not even want to see that it was unloaded took my word for it gave me the tag to sign which I then placed in the case. Glad you made back from nyc without having the rubber plunger treatment... Oh wait that was NYPD not PAPD 
Metroplex is really nice you should have stayed and never returned. 
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Posted: 4/28/2016 8:29:11 AM EDT
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Glad the trip went through cleanly.
Bill Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's a tarp! To cover him? |
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Posted: 4/28/2016 8:31:24 AM EDT
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What county is your permit out of if we may ask? The City or the rest of the state? Not too important, PAPD has learned about the FOPA through a few arrests and crap being thrown out of court. Although, there is one PAPD Sgt. who would arrest and tackle a grandmother for having a butter knife... Bill |
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Posted: 4/28/2016 9:13:38 AM EDT
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Not too important, PAPD has learned about the FOPA through a few arrests and crap being thrown out of court. Although, there is one PAPD Sgt. who would arrest and tackle a grandmother for having a butter knife... Bill Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What county is your permit out of if we may ask? The City or the rest of the state? Not too important, PAPD has learned about the FOPA through a few arrests and crap being thrown out of court. Although, there is one PAPD Sgt. who would arrest and tackle a grandmother for having a butter knife... Bill Glad they've improved, I had a less than stellar experience with PA. |
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Posted: 4/28/2016 10:18:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not too important, PAPD has learned about the FOPA through a few arrests and crap being thrown out of court. Although, there is one PAPD Sgt. who would arrest and tackle a grandmother for having a butter knife... Bill Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What county is your permit out of if we may ask? The City or the rest of the state? Not too important, PAPD has learned about the FOPA through a few arrests and crap being thrown out of court. Although, there is one PAPD Sgt. who would arrest and tackle a grandmother for having a butter knife... Bill |
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Posted: 4/29/2016 9:03:35 PM EDT
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fopa has nothing to do with airline travel Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What county is your permit out of if we may ask? The City or the rest of the state? Not too important, PAPD has learned about the FOPA through a few arrests and crap being thrown out of court. Although, there is one PAPD Sgt. who would arrest and tackle a grandmother for having a butter knife... Bill I believe it does, but I may be wrong... |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 5:30:14 AM EDT
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Go read it and then explain how it provides you protection for a firearm you are carrying in your hands into an airport.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 10:22:39 AM EDT
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The safe passage provisions section.
I am legal in Putnam and legal in Texas so therefore my travel through uncharted NYC territory would be covered by FOPA I am only passing through NYC and the Airport incidental to my travel from one geographical location to another geographical location where the possession of my firearm is legal, therefore regardless of the means of transportation as long as the firearm is unloaded and remains in a locked container I believe that FOPA does apply. |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 5:31:03 AM EDT
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The safe passage provisions section. I am legal in Putnam and legal in Texas so therefore my travel through uncharted NYC territory would be covered by FOPA I am only passing through NYC and the Airport incidental to my travel from one geographical location to another geographical location where the possession of my firearm is legal, therefore regardless of the means of transportation as long as the firearm is unloaded and remains in a locked container I believe that FOPA does apply. One hopes this logic would always be followed. Out of curiousity, is your permit restricted in any way (eg. target/hunting), or unrestricted carry. I know this is another issue I've seen come up in similar HTF posts, and i can imagine LE giving more scrutiny (I.e. are you going to target shoot in TX?). |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 8:07:11 AM EDT
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The safe passage provisions section. I am legal in Putnam and legal in Texas so therefore my travel through uncharted NYC territory would be covered by FOPA I am only passing through NYC and the Airport incidental to my travel from one geographical location to another geographical location where the possession of my firearm is legal, therefore regardless of the means of transportation as long as the firearm is unloaded and remains in a locked container I believe that FOPA does apply. There is considerable debate regarding that. I believe there are court rulings against you. ETA - Third Circuit ruling. |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 8:21:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The safe passage provisions section. I am legal in Putnam and legal in Texas so therefore my travel through uncharted NYC territory would be covered by FOPA I am only passing through NYC and the Airport incidental to my travel from one geographical location to another geographical location where the possession of my firearm is legal, therefore regardless of the means of transportation as long as the firearm is unloaded and remains in a locked container I believe that FOPA does apply. Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided , That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.FOPA only provided protection for travel by vehicle. As soon as you step out of your car and walk towards the airport with your rifle case you are no longer protected as you are no longer in a vehicle. The law was poorly drafted with only travel by car in mind. |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 8:31:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is considerable debate regarding that. I believe there are court rulings against you. ETA - Third Circuit ruling. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The safe passage provisions section. I am legal in Putnam and legal in Texas so therefore my travel through uncharted NYC territory would be covered by FOPA I am only passing through NYC and the Airport incidental to my travel from one geographical location to another geographical location where the possession of my firearm is legal, therefore regardless of the means of transportation as long as the firearm is unloaded and remains in a locked container I believe that FOPA does apply. There is considerable debate regarding that. I believe there are court rulings against you. ETA - Third Circuit ruling. Personally I would not do it. In fact (I know I have told this before) before Revell I had a flight rerouted through Chicago and was then told I would have to stay overnight in Chicago. I had an AR15 and a Glock. There is no way I was going to touch that rifle case. I was told that they got me on another flight and the overnight lay over was cancelled before I did anything. But I was considering renting a car and driving out of Illinois and then trying to hire an FFL to go get the case. Really at that point I was willing to write off the guns as a loss. A glock and post ban bushy aren't worth enough for me to risk a weekend in jail in Chicago. I suppose maybe the airline would have eventually returned them to me in NY. I don't know. |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 10:14:48 AM EDT
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What was the final ruling/outcome of Revell v Port Authority?
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Posted: 5/4/2016 5:22:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What was the final ruling/outcome of Revell v Port Authority? |
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