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Posted: 9/5/2015 1:03:41 PM EDT
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Theoreticaly legal. Do it and tell us what happens. you'd need to transfer it and register it.
And remember, it's officially an SP-1, not an ar-15 per the receiver marking. |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 2:08:08 PM EDT
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If the state allowed it.. it would have to be registered as an "Assault Weapon"...
Best best for the father to gift it face to face to the son in the fathers state of residence, and then for the son to lose the rifle in a tragic boating accident just before he crosses the new york border... this is one of those SSS situations... |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 2:29:26 PM EDT
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That old bag of machine parts? Not even worth mentioning. |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 2:55:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
If the state allowed it.. it would have to be registered as an "Assault Weapon"... Best best for the father to gift it face to face to the son in the fathers state of residence, and then for the son to lose the rifle in a tragic boating accident just before he crosses the new york border... this is one of those SSS situations... His son would never break the law, he has too much to lose + the point is for the Son to be able to actually use the rifle, not hide it in the dark. PS: My uncle can't understand my heavy opposition to registering the rifle, He points out that he had handguns registered in NY for over 40 years & never gave it a thought! |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 3:01:23 PM EDT
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And remember, it's officially an SP-1, not an ar-15 per the receiver marking. Every SP1 I have owned & I owned many before they all sank on a boat to the free state of PA, Was marked Colt AR 15 Model SP1 |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 3:04:00 PM EDT
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My mistake on the roll mark then. At any rate register it and if the NYSP refuse the registration, you bring an article 78 action
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Posted: 9/5/2015 7:06:50 PM EDT
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If the state allowed it.. it would have to be registered as an "Assault Weapon"... Best best for the father to gift it face to face to the son in the fathers state of residence, and then for the son to lose the rifle in a tragic boating accident just before he crosses the new york border... this is one of those SSS situations... This but keep the rifle outside the boundaries of nys in a storage unit ? , aka PA, VT etc.. |
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Posted: 9/6/2015 7:57:31 PM EDT
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Put a bullet button in it and forget about the other bullshit.
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Posted: 9/6/2015 9:43:59 PM EDT
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Fuck the "law". Law in quotes because it was passed by a bunch of criminals who should spend the rest of their living days in prison, and then the eternity after that in hell.
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Posted: 9/7/2015 8:08:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck the "law". Law in quotes because it was passed by a bunch of criminals who should spend the rest of their living days in prison, and then the eternity after that in hell. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 1:45:11 PM EDT
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Yes, you are able to transfer a 50+ year old rifle into the state. By the letter of the law, you must register it within 30 days of it being transferred into the state.
Funny thing is, the moment it is registered, it is no longer deemed an "assault weapon", so even under the definition of this ridiculous law, there is no such thing as a registred assault weapon in NY 
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Posted: 11/6/2015 2:36:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny thing is, the moment it is registered, it is no longer deemed an "assault weapon", so even under the definition of this ridiculous law, there is no such thing as a registered assault weapon in NY |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 5:11:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This but keep the rifle outside the boundaries of nys in a storage unit ? , aka PA, VT etc.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If the state allowed it.. it would have to be registered as an "Assault Weapon"... Best best for the father to gift it face to face to the son in the fathers state of residence, and then for the son to lose the rifle in a tragic boating accident just before he crosses the new york border... this is one of those SSS situations... This but keep the rifle outside the boundaries of nys in a storage unit ? , aka PA, VT etc.. I pay for a storage unit every month, for what?  Fucking waste of money. I'd try to register it and see what the evil gun gnomes in Albany say. The Safe Act isn't going anywhere absent the SC getting involved, which I bet they don't. The "I haven't been caught yet" future felons club here isn't doing anything that will ever matter with their guns in hidden in the ceiling. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 5:15:42 PM EDT
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I also have a storage locker full of once legal toys, I hate paying that bill!
Starting to get the feeling of getting rid of everything and buying a few big dollar watches or a piece of property somewhere . I just don't see any future in keeping the stuff. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 5:22:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I also have a storage locker full of once legal toys, I hate paying that bill! Starting to get the feeling of getting rid of everything and buying a few big dollar watches or a piece of property somewhere . I just don't see any future in keeping the stuff. Someday I'm going to hobble out of my wheelchair van with my son, who will open a storage locker and say "You mean you could have been putting that money away to buy me a hover porsche instead of storing this rusty junk for twenty years?"  edit piece of property? lol not with my junk, I might be able trade it for a box of G Shocks, lol |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 8:49:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I were ever asked if I had any "Firearms", I would say no. What would you gain by answer the question 
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Posted: 11/7/2015 9:37:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What would you gain by answer the question Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I were ever asked if I had any "Firearms", I would say no. What would you gain by answer the question |
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Posted: 11/20/2015 11:05:29 AM EDT
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1st off, I know the law sucks & is an unconstitutional Cumhole cluster fuck. But I was asked a question by a relative who lives out of state who happens to own an early 3 digit serial numbered AR15, he is up in his years & would like to give it to his law abiding (Doctor) son, who unfortunately lives in our fucked up state. Has anyone out there tried to transfer or register a 50+ year old AR15? If I read the. law correctly 50+ year old rifles are fully transferable. Thanks PS: FUAC, FUBHO, FUHRC. GO PREET! In addition to it being legal to bring into the state, (so long as he registers it within 30 days) he also would NOT need to go through an ffl for the transfer for the purposes of NYS law. Giving a gun to your child is one of the few instances where you can still conduct a "private transfer". But if he plans on mailing it from one state to another state (and from one person on the return address and a different person on the mailing address) then it would have to go through an ffl, as per federal law. If he picks it up in person though, the only thing he would have to do is register it within 30 days, no ffl involved. |
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Posted: 11/20/2015 11:18:34 AM EDT
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True. "Firearms" are illegal in New York per PL 265. It is that definition of "Firearm" that is the catchword. If I were ever asked if I had any "Firearms", I would say no. That is the truth if I stick to the PL 265 definition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny thing is, the moment it is registered, it is no longer deemed an "assault weapon", so even under the definition of this ridiculous law, there is no such thing as a registered assault weapon in NY While it is true that "firearms" are illegal in NY, there are a variety of exemptions. For instance, any handgun is deemed a firearm and is illegal, however, if you have an nys pistol permit and that gun is on your permit, then you are exempt from that law in that scenario. So if someone asked you if you have a firearm, your reply in calling it a firearm or not is pretty irrelevant, it either is or is not, And you're either allowed to have it or you are not, under the law. Referring to a long barreled pump action shotgun as a firearm would not make it a firearm under the law and you could not get arrested or charged for referring to it as such. Not calling an unregistered handgun a firearm would not stop it from being a "firearm" and would not help keep you from being arrested or charged. So simply saying that you have a firearm is no different than saying that you have a gun realistically. Because even if it legally is considered a "firearm" that doesn't necessarily mean it is illegal for you to possess. |
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Posted: 11/20/2015 3:58:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I also have a storage locker full of once legal toys, I hate paying that bill! Starting to get the feeling of getting rid of everything and buying a few big dollar watches or a piece of property somewhere . I just don't see any future in keeping the stuff. I sent mine to a buddy in Ohio. I take classes out there sometimes and get to visit them.  |
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Posted: 11/20/2015 4:07:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For instance, any handgun is deemed a firearm and is illegal, however, if you have an nys pistol permit and that gun is on your permit, then you are exempt from that law in that scenario. These laws are just to convoluted to understand at times. |
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Posted: 11/23/2015 1:00:05 PM EDT
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Then I was mistaken. I was under the impression an unregistered handgun was a firearm; having a permit and an unregistered handgun was still possession of an illegal firearm. Not having a permit and a registered handgun was unlicensed possession on the part of the person in possession but the handgun was not illegal. These laws are just to convoluted to understand at times. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For instance, any handgun is deemed a firearm and is illegal, however, if you have an nys pistol permit and that gun is on your permit, then you are exempt from that law in that scenario. These laws are just to convoluted to understand at times. The handgun in and of itself is never illegal. Only the possession of such by a person who is not exempt from the law. It would be the same criminal charge for both of the scenarios you gave. |
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