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Posted: 1/28/2015 5:01:28 PM EDT
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so do i, and i'd like to be 30 years younger as well. as long as we are dreaming.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 5:02:25 PM EDT
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I wish him luck, but it's going to be hard to argue that you had 10+ mags before the ban, got rid of them when they became contraband, and now got them back.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 5:09:00 PM EDT
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hes dreaming so you can own standard cap mags but not the weapons go pound salt.
NYS needs to have there own tea party. Instead of dumping tea into the Hudson we dump the elected officials instead. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 6:36:54 PM EDT
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I wish him luck, but it's going to be hard to argue that you had 10+ mags before the ban, got rid of them when they became contraband, and now got them back. Pre bans legal again, really pretty easy to date. I'll be calling Pat. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 6:39:36 PM EDT
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This man was a NYS Trooper and the Sheriff of Erie County before Senator. I'd say he's got as good a shot as anybody getting his plan working. Not many headlines these days of any of our other elected officials looking out for our interests.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 6:50:59 PM EDT
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Any Politician willing to stand against un-SAFE is in need of our support.
He has constituents in support of un-SAFE that have to be placated too. therefor the zealotry has to be kept to a minimum. Now Kathleen Marchione came right out and said the Law was bullshit. Truly, I like leaders that say what they mean and mean what they say. 
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:07:43 PM EDT
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Pre bans legal again, really pretty easy to date. I'll be calling Pat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish him luck, but it's going to be hard to argue that you had 10+ mags before the ban, got rid of them when they became contraband, and now got them back. Pre bans legal again, really pretty easy to date. I'll be calling Pat. I know. I have had  30 round mags that are were date stamped 1992. What I'm saying is that by producing such magazines after they theoretically become legal again, a person would show that they were guilty of posessing them during the Safe Act Ban.
Put another way, there are no legal 10+ magazines in the state right now, so if they suddenly became legal again, where would they come from?  So there are no magazines to grandfather anymore.
Or would this amended law allow you to once again purchase 10+ magazines? |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:13:38 PM EDT
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I know. I have had 30 round mags that are were date stamped 1992. What I'm saying is that by producing such magazines after they theoretically become legal again, a person would show that they were guilty of posessing them during the Safe Act Ban.
Put another way, there are no legal 10+ magazines in the state right now, so if they suddenly became legal again, where would they come from? So there are no magazines to grandfather anymore.
Or would this amended law allow you to once again purchase 10+ magazines? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish him luck, but it's going to be hard to argue that you had 10+ mags before the ban, got rid of them when they became contraband, and now got them back. Pre bans legal again, really pretty easy to date. I'll be calling Pat. I know. I have had 30 round mags that are were date stamped 1992. What I'm saying is that by producing such magazines after they theoretically become legal again, a person would show that they were guilty of posessing them during the Safe Act Ban.
Put another way, there are no legal 10+ magazines in the state right now, so if they suddenly became legal again, where would they come from? So there are no magazines to grandfather anymore.
Or would this amended law allow you to once again purchase 10+ magazines? That's what I'm thinking |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:23:55 PM EDT
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That's what I'm thinking LOL. Okay, prebans bought during the first ban for $40 each. Sold during the Safe Ban for $10 each. Buy again after the Safe Ban repeal for $50 each. Sweet! How could anyone not love New York. Don't get me wrong, even though I'm not going to be here anymore, I'd be thrilled to hear that this fucked up "law" (I can't call it that without air-quotes) was fixed. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:52:24 PM EDT
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Maybe Arfcommers in free states would show pity, and offer clearance-sale prices on their old steel. Or maybe not!
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:59:59 PM EDT
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Maybe Arfcommers in free states would show pity, and offer clearance-sale prices on their old steel. Or maybe not! I tell you guys what! If this does become law, I will start a thread in the NYHFT giving all my prebans away. Not going to need them where I'll be! 
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Posted: 1/28/2015 8:04:29 PM EDT
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Maybe Arfcommers in free states would show pity, and offer clearance-sale prices on their old steel. Or maybe not!  . For the low low price of triple value, old times would be new again. I had a Colt Govt Carbine small pin lower that cost me $850.00, now it would be valueless.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 9:24:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish him luck, but it's going to be hard to argue that you had 10+ mags before the ban, got rid of them when they became contraband, and now got them back. But still, I don't like that language one bit.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 9:35:41 PM EDT
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Assembly isn't going to do anything to weaken the safe act and neither is Cuomo
Yet I have an out of state storage locker full of them and other stuff
What a waste of money |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 9:41:44 PM EDT
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I may soon have my own out of state real property interests
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Posted: 1/28/2015 9:44:38 PM EDT
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If the penal code/safe act restriction on 10+ rd mags was repealed, there would be no ban, pre-ban, post-ban mags there would be only mags, since the safe act abrogated all other previous acts(bans) ... Right? Regardless of time and place of possession, any further prosecution would be double jeopardy.... FUAC |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 11:49:52 PM EDT
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If the penal code/safe act restriction on 10+ rd mags was repealed, there would be no ban, pre-ban, post-ban mags there would be only mags, since the safe act abrogated all other previous acts(bans) ... Right? Regardless of time and place of possession, any further prosecution would be double jeopardy.... FUAC As in every other fucking law we try to decifer, it's clear as mud and laden with ambiguity and grey areas. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:27:54 AM EDT
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Assembly isn't going to do anything to weaken the safe act and neither is Cuomo Yet I have an out of state storage locker full of them and other stuff What a waste of money
But the Assembly is changing and Cuomo won't be there after April. WIth Hoschul as governor and Cuomo, Silver, Libous, Skelos and a host of old-timers gone, maybe some small changes may get through. And, with the big money brokers gone, anti-SAFE rallies in Albany will have a lot more political clout- heck, D'Amico won't be harassing anyone, he'll be parking your car! |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:47:34 AM EDT
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Good luck Senator Gallivan, but I don't see it happen.
I'd rather it stay whole or get worse so the USSC actually picks it up. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:21:18 AM EDT
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Good luck Senator Gallivan, but I don't see it happen. I'd rather it stay whole or get worse so the USSC actually picks it up. I think we would lose in scouts. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:05:13 AM EDT
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But the Assembly is changing and Cuomo won't be there after April. WIth Hoschul as governor and Cuomo, Silver, Libous, Skelos and a host of old-timers gone, maybe some small changes may get through. And, with the big money brokers gone, anti-SAFE rallies in Albany will have a lot more political clout- heck, D'Amico won't be harassing anyone, he'll be parking your car! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assembly isn't going to do anything to weaken the safe act and neither is Cuomo Yet I have an out of state storage locker full of them and other stuff What a waste of money
But the Assembly is changing and Cuomo won't be there after April. WIth Hoschul as governor and Cuomo, Silver, Libous, Skelos and a host of old-timers gone, maybe some small changes may get through. And, with the big money brokers gone, anti-SAFE rallies in Albany will have a lot more political clout- heck, D'Amico won't be harassing anyone, he'll be parking your car! I love reading this scenario, but I highly doubt it. From your lips to Gd's ears, my friend! |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:29:50 AM EDT
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Maybe Arfcommers in free states would show pity, and offer clearance-sale prices on their old steel. Or maybe not! They rarely did before They always wanted to sell their old stuff to NYers at double what they could get in their hometowns |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:43:52 AM EDT
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They rarely did before They always wanted to sell their old stuff to NYers at double what they could get in their hometowns Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe Arfcommers in free states would show pity, and offer clearance-sale prices on their old steel. Or maybe not! They rarely did before They always wanted to sell their old stuff to NYers at double what they could get in their hometowns 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:47:14 AM EDT
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So all those $15 magazines I paid $30 for and then sold for $7 or less almost two years ago, I can have those back. Gotcha. Good plan.
Hell as I just kept finding them after the deadline, I got to where I was just giving them away to MA residents. they were thrilled to get them and probably won't want to give them back. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:03:07 AM EDT
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Good luck getting that through the assembly
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:52:08 AM EDT
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No shortage of sand-filled vajeens up in this thread.
Bitching about how expensive mag's you think will never be allowed again, or how our brothers in arms took advantage of us? They've succeeded 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:22:34 PM EDT
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I wish him luck, but it's going to be hard to argue that you had 10+ mags before the ban, got rid of them when they became contraband, and now got them back. I have a boxes of stuff in my parents house in VT, and my sisters house in PA. Why would it be hard to get it back? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:19:03 PM EDT
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I have a boxes of stuff in my parents house in VT, and my sisters house in PA. Why would it be hard to get it back? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish him luck, but it's going to be hard to argue that you had 10+ mags before the ban, got rid of them when they became contraband, and now got them back. I have a boxes of stuff in my parents house in VT, and my sisters house in PA. Why would it be hard to get it back? My fun stuff is down in VA. Problem is going to be it will be no fun shooting 30 rounds out of neutered AR, least I would have all my glock mags back. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:28:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Assembly isn't going to do anything to weaken the safe act and neither is Cuomo Yet I have an out of state storage locker full of them and other stuff What a waste of moneyI shipped mine to a buddy in OH. Those that I didn't permanently modify, that is.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:29:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They rarely did before They always wanted to sell their old stuff to NYers at double what they could get in their hometowns Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe Arfcommers in free states would show pity, and offer clearance-sale prices on their old steel. Or maybe not! They rarely did before They always wanted to sell their old stuff to NYers at double what they could get in their hometowns Not all. I bought many excellent or NIW prebans from arfcommers for $10-12.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:08:38 PM EDT
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Mine are all .458 socom, they only hold 10 rounds.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 5:33:45 PM EDT
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I have a boxes of stuff in my parents house in VT, and my sisters house in PA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish him luck, but it's going to be hard to argue that you had 10+ mags before the ban, got rid of them when they became contraband, and now got them back. I have a boxes of stuff in my parents house in VT, and my sisters house in PA. Oh, yeah me too. [wink, wink] |
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