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Posted: 1/26/2015 5:43:17 PM EDT
not sure if this was already posted but stumbled across this article and the guy in the video .. i like him..  seems like a good shit









Link Posted: 1/26/2015 6:36:17 PM EDT
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I held one in a gun store, felt pretty damn good actually,   but like banging a fat chick it might feel good with the lights off but you don't want any one seeing you with it
Link Posted: 1/26/2015 7:34:07 PM EDT
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It's awesome. Very light and handy. Only downsides are there is not a factory bolt catch/release installed and AR height sights and optics make it more of a chin weld than a cheek weld. No sling mounts either.

Trigger is heavy but very short, like a shotgun.

Huge fireball in low light/night without a FH/brake on the muzzle. 30 rd length magazines wobble a bit more than a standard AR mag well obviously but insert and lock up fine.

It's a fantastic hybrid of the AR and probably the best NY legal rifle that takes AR mags. I can not comment yet on accuracy at any range.
Link Posted: 1/26/2015 7:50:02 PM EDT
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I need to get off of my ass and pick one of these up.

I just wish the lowers only were cheaper.
Link Posted: 1/26/2015 8:08:33 PM EDT
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I need to get off of my ass and pick one of these up.

I just wish the lowers only were cheaper.
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what does just the lower cost?
Link Posted: 1/26/2015 8:10:44 PM EDT
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Mid 4's it looks like.

I plan on picking one up soon.  I've been in a shooting funk as of late.
Link Posted: 1/26/2015 8:39:33 PM EDT
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Mid 4's it looks like.

I plan on picking one up soon.  I've been in a shooting funk as of late.
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I think most guys in NY are
Link Posted: 1/26/2015 8:53:30 PM EDT
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what does just the lower cost?
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I need to get off of my ass and pick one of these up.

I just wish the lowers only were cheaper.



what does just the lower cost?



Little over $450 shipped

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=465431261

remember you dont need an AR BCG, it comes with
Link Posted: 1/26/2015 8:55:19 PM EDT
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I think it absolutely needs a rail to make it right. The Magpul handguard was light but useless and not much to look at - I ditched it ASAP. Rail, sights, optic and bolt catch = awesome rifle.
Link Posted: 1/26/2015 9:05:09 PM EDT
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I think it absolutely needs a rail to make it right. The Magpul handguard was light but useless and not much to look at - I ditched it ASAP. Rail, sights, optic and bolt catch = awesome rifle.
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I held one in a gun store, felt pretty damn good actually,   but like banging a fat chick it might feel good with the lights off but you don't want any one seeing you with it

I think it absolutely needs a rail to make it right. The Magpul handguard was light but useless and not much to look at - I ditched it ASAP. Rail, sights, optic and bolt catch = awesome rifle.



Yeah the hand guard sucks but thats easy enough to get rid of.       I might pick one up
Link Posted: 1/26/2015 10:31:51 PM EDT
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I think it absolutely needs a rail to make it right. The Magpul handguard was light but useless and not much to look at - I ditched it ASAP. Rail, sights, optic and bolt catch = awesome rifle.
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I held one in a gun store, felt pretty damn good actually,   but like banging a fat chick it might feel good with the lights off but you don't want any one seeing you with it

I think it absolutely needs a rail to make it right. The Magpul handguard was light but useless and not much to look at - I ditched it ASAP. Rail, sights, optic and bolt catch = awesome rifle.


I actually really like the Magpul hand guard on an AR, but on the SCR, you're right, it just doesn't do it.

Where did you get the bolt catch? I don't see it on their site?
Link Posted: 1/26/2015 10:41:56 PM EDT
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Where did you get the bolt catch? I don't see it on their site?

Their ordering process is a bit different since they aren't set up for online ordering. I sent them an email with my shipping info explaining that I wanted to order one and then called them to pay for it after they responded.

Hi P400,

The price is $29.95 plus $7.00 shipping so $36.95 total. We ship these USPS Priority Mail, typically a 2 day delivery. You just need to call us or let
us know a good time to call you and we will process your order. We accept Visa, Mastercard and Discover for payment.

Best Regards,

Sales Department

ARES Defense Systems, Inc.

[email protected]
Link Posted: 1/27/2015 1:06:42 PM EDT
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I have 3 ARs I can show in public.  Plus 2 more uppers I can slap on.    ETA:  So yea, just a lower is all I'd get.




 
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