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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:30:06 AM EDT
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look for a 20ga pump shotgun either a rem 870 or a mossberg 500 would work.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:32:05 AM EDT
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Rossi model 92 in .357/.38. Stoke it with .38 defensive ammo.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:37:44 AM EDT
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If a 20ga kicks too much count out a .30-30
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:37:50 AM EDT
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Rossi model 92 in .357/.38. Stoke it with .38 defensive ammo. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Can you comment on Rossi's quality? I thought of Rossi last night while I was discussing this with my father, but I've never owned one before. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:58:25 AM EDT
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Rough, often fussy feeders. And slow to load unless he's going to keep it that way.
An M1 carbine with soft / hollow points would work great, but you probably won't find one below your price range. Sadly used Ruger PC9's are north of that price now as well. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:42:12 AM EDT
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Single shot .410 loaded with buck or slugs: Versatile, easily operated, multiple options for munitions, light weight, low cost, uber reliable.
Let's be realistic here: He's not likely to practice any more than a few shots at the Range, so about one shot is all that's going to happen. Handgun is obviously not going to happen. I suppose a M1 Carbine is an option, but again there's that training thing and I highly question the reliability of one unless its THROUGHLY vetted (ammo, magazines, feed/ejection,...) The Kel-Tecs and Hi-Points fall into the same category as the Carbine, but substantially less expensive. (typical carbine from a Dealer is ~$700+) |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:52:32 AM EDT
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A Destroyer carbine would fit the bill. It's in 9mm Largo, which is not a common caliber. But you can order a case and be done with it. The bolt is really fast due to the cartridge's short lenth. Magazine holds 6 rds. Can be bought for $300-400 on gunbroker. I like mine a lot.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:56:52 AM EDT
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Single shot .410 loaded with buck or slugs: Versatile, easily operated, multiple options for munitions, light weight, low cost, uber reliable. Let's be realistic here: He's not likely to practice any more than a few shots at the Range, so about one shot is all that's going to happen. Handgun is obviously not going to happen. I suppose a M1 Carbine is an option, but again there's that training thing and I highly question the reliability of one unless its THROUGHLY vetted (ammo, magazines, feed/ejection,...) The Kel-Tecs and Hi-Points fall into the same category as the Carbine, but substantially less expensive. (typical carbine from a Dealer is ~$700+) Training isn't an issue. He certainly won't be taking any tactical carbine classes, but he will get sufficient range time. We have a range on our property and are there every other weekend or so. He has been getting into his Henry 22, which is part of why I favor the lever actions. He's a combat vet, so he is familiar with weapons, but he's about 60 years out of practice.  I'm sure if I got him an M18 or a Garand he'd feel quite at home, but I don't think either of those would fit the bill. 
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Posted: 8/26/2014 7:16:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: He is dead nuts on with his Henry 22 w/ irons). Let him use the Henry. Better he have a gun he is comfortable shooting than one which uses a heavier round he isn't comfortable with. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 8:34:21 AM EDT
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What about something with a 22mag load? Variety of options, plenty of knock down, very low recoil and winchester makes a great hollow point. Not a popular option but it's a family favorite with the old timers. You can get a Savage with a 7 round cartridge for a could hundred. Solid weapon, lightweight, and low recoil.
I'd try it out... my gramps loves his and he's 87 |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 8:44:36 AM EDT
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What about something with a 22mag load? Variety of options, plenty of knock down, very low recoil and winchester makes a great hollow point. Not a popular option but it's a family favorite with the old timers. You can get a Savage with a 7 round cartridge for a could hundred. Solid weapon, lightweight, and low recoil. I'd try it out... my gramps loves his and he's 87 This, if he's comfortable with the .22, get a .22.mag and load it with Speer Gold Dot's in that caliber. From a rifle it's better than a sharp stick. My FIL uses them in his Ruger LCP .22 mag. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 10:26:58 AM EDT
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Ruger PC9 or PC4
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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:15:27 PM EDT
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mossberg .410 pump
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Posted: 8/27/2014 5:54:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rossi model 92 in .357/.38. Stoke it with .38 defensive ammo. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 5:58:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you comment on Rossi's quality? I thought of Rossi last night while I was discussing this with my father, but I've never owned one before. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rossi model 92 in .357/.38. Stoke it with .38 defensive ammo. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Can you comment on Rossi's quality? I thought of Rossi last night while I was discussing this with my father, but I've never owned one before. He normally shoots .38 lead reloads that I give him, but I have loaded up some .357 mag, and he's got factory ammo, too. Handgun ammo in a rifle produces a light recoil, but with the longer barrel, you get better muzzle velocity. Set him up with some .357 defense ammo, or even some .38 +p stuff. |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 7:15:16 AM EDT
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I think the M92 is going to be the ticket. Bud's and CTD have them around the $480 mark, which is more than he wants to spend.
I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for used locally and on the EE. If not, maybe we'll work out a deal where I but him one and swap him for his 20ga. |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 7:24:03 AM EDT
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SKS, tough to reload, but if it takes more than it holds, that is a different problem
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Posted: 8/27/2014 7:28:15 AM EDT
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A pistol would be ideal, but he refuses to go through the BS surrounding getting a pistol in Erie County. An AR would be ideal, but there's a lot of BS surrounding that Sounds like your father is unable to exercise his 2nd Amendment constitutional rights to self defense in a manner that suits an 82 year old. He should sue the bastards. (I say only half jokingly) |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 7:43:24 AM EDT
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How about a Mossberg 500 in 410, you can get them on Gunbroker for around $300.
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Posted: 8/27/2014 8:28:15 AM EDT
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I think the M92 is going to be the ticket. Bud's and CTD have them around the $480 mark, which is more than he wants to spend. I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for used locally and on the EE. If not, maybe we'll work out a deal where I but him one and swap him for his 20ga. Just buy your Dad the dang rifle. Tell him you are loaning it to him with the understanding that you get it back if anything happens to him so that he is unable to use it. |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 8:34:39 AM EDT
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What about an SKS?
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Posted: 8/28/2014 12:50:09 AM EDT
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This, if he's comfortable with the .22, get a .22.mag and load it with Speer Gold Dot's in that caliber. From a rifle it's better than a sharp stick. My FIL uses them in his Ruger LCP .22 mag. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about something with a 22mag load? Variety of options, plenty of knock down, very low recoil and winchester makes a great hollow point. Not a popular option but it's a family favorite with the old timers. You can get a Savage with a 7 round cartridge for a could hundred. Solid weapon, lightweight, and low recoil. I'd try it out... my gramps loves his and he's 87 This, if he's comfortable with the .22, get a .22.mag and load it with Speer Gold Dot's in that caliber. From a rifle it's better than a sharp stick. My FIL uses them in his Ruger LCP .22 mag. Poo-poo it if you want but many a Deer has fallen quickly to a well placed shot from a .22 magnum & spot light.  (Illegal to do so in NY)
The Gold-Dot's ARE nasty little buggers.
I have the Rossi's in .45 Long Colt and recoil is minimal with standard loading (for the most part duplicating .45acp in terms of bullet weight and velocity) I also have one in .44 magnum: again when loaded with .44 special has minimal recoil. Both are very easy to use, plenty accurate, and powerful enough to do the job.
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