Curious how one would register an item with no serial number or unique identification...how do you prove a magazine you might be using is actually registered or not? You could have 20 M1 carbine mags, and only registered ten, say...if you took one to the range, how does anyone know if its really registered or not?

Do you have a carbine it is registered with? Or if your carbine is not such that it needs to be registered, how do you register mags alone? What if you collected mags, and have mags for a gun you do not own...say Bren or BAR mags? Or something like a DP-28 dummy gun with a mag attached.

Don't know since I don't own anything like that, just curious on how it would work.

Regardless the shitbags who wrote this, and voted for it should just die, of something horrible, drawn out and painful....I wish a horrible, painful diseased end to them all...

On the online form, it asks for the antique gun the mag is "associated" with. You do NOT have to register the gun. You do not have to list any identifying marks.
So I registered around 10 mags, all "associated" with IBM M1 Carbine, which is NOT registered since it does not have a bayonet lug.
My registration went through, and I have proof so that is that.

Yes, I agree you could possess 50 mags and only register 5. If you are at the range with 5 mags and the reg form, you are safe. The only way it appears they could "catch" you is if they find them in your house, and even then they would have to prove that you had acquired them more than 72 hours previously, since you have 72 hours to register the purchase of a mag or antique AW. YOU do not have to prove anything, they have to prove it all.

So it appears to me the only way they can really prosecute for M1 Carbine mags is if:

A. they are NOT registered, meaning NONE.
and
B. They can somehow prove when you bought them.

So if you buy mags on line or at a LGS, there is a paper trail. If you buy from a fellow collector, he could give you up, especially if he "un registers" them to you (oops).

But if you have antique mags from way back when, or buy some at an out of State gun show, it looks like it would be very very hard to prosecute.

so.... the SP1 thats almost 50 years old is NY legal!?

Almost does not count, it has to be 50 years old + to be register-able/transferable..

Yes there are plenty of 50+ year old M1 carbine mags out there & they have various markings to prove where & when they were mfd..
This is why I mention the Armalite waffle mags because it is easy to ID age & mfg that proves they are over 50 years old.
FAL mags are going to be hard to prove age as I'm not aware of any markings or records to prove age, unless I'm just misinformed on FAL mags.
I just did a bit of research & found out that some FAL mags do have date stamped bodies, a buddie at another site tells me he has some 1963 stamped FAL Mags.

There are literally millions.  Any WWII or Korean War era mag is fair game. There were more than six million carbines made and God knows how many mags.

http://www.rawles.to/M1_Carbine_Mag_FAQ.html

http://www.eqth.net/mirror/carbinemags/

Buy one. Seriously. They are fun little rifles.

Great rifles, only problem is finding inexpensive ammo.
+ I'll bet prices go sky high when people realize they are transferable in NYS.

Prices on them have been high for a while. I wish I bought a few back when they were in the $300 range.

I've always really liked the little carbines.  There is something cool about a 5# "rifle".  They are easy to work on with relatively few tools and parts are still readily available, if getting more expensive.  They are a mature design so all their flaws or issues are well known and cures well established.  They are no 1000yd deathray but within the scope of what they were designed for they are handy and cool and they have a legitimate US military historical background.  Real GI mags are pretty easy to ID, at least as far as 15 rounders are concerned- I never fooled around with 30s. I think that next to the SKS and Saiga the bayonetless M1 Carbine is a great NY SAFE compliant gun.

Most of the 30 rounders are modern fakes, so unless you know what you are doing, they are probably a bad idea.

Yeah that was the theory I always ascribed to.

Is an original Artillery Luger with a vintage 32 round snail drum made almost 100 years ago considered an assault weapon?  

They made modern reproduction Lugers within the past 50 years so since the mag can fit a newer gun I think it is.

Laws so damn confusing - nobody understands it all and its enforceable to anyone who can misunderstand it - Just whenever they want to put you away, they will.
Time to move.

And you know what one of those snail drums are worth??? I think they go for around $500 on the loose....

TIME TO MOVE IS RIGHT
In a few years, they will pass a confiscation law & be coming to get all the registered AW's.
They won't be happy until NYS is one big socialist Mecca like Detroit!

I am not sure why the Luger would be considered an "AW", but the drum would be illegal unless registered. I see no reason why it could not be registered, the gun it was made for is an antique, and the modern replicas are - REPLICAS. Which do not count.

I asked the specific question of if the date for C&R stuff is a rolling date and was told by Sherman it was not.

I'm pretty sure that's incorrect, if the wanted it to be a fixed date they would have said a gun had to be mfg. Before 1/15/1963 to be considered an antique, they didn't, they chose any gun over 50 years old. The ATF uses a rolling date for this purpose & I'm. Sure there is plenty of case law to support the rolling date.

50 years is 50 years & they will lose if they jam someone up who in good faith tried to comply with this nonsense.
I'm also sure that they will correct all this stuff in SAFE ACT 2 as soon as this pesky election cycle is over, that you can bank on!

I have to agree, to the extent that like Skretzny said, if an ordinary citizen can not know what it illegal, it is too vague.
Since they failed to specify "50 years old as of the effective date of the law", read literally 50 years old is 50 years old.
So in the next 50 years every AR-15 ever made to this date will be a registerable antique.

Don't worry, the commies will fix all this in SAFE ACT 2.