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Posted: 12/27/2013 4:39:19 PM EDT
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call berks i think that is closet they will issue a ltf
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Posted: 12/27/2013 4:52:51 PM EDT
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I left at 7:15 this morning, and got back at 4:50pm.
Renewed at Centre county Thruway to Rt 84 to 81 to 80 to 220 (?), to 550, street by the courthouse, up the hill, down the hill, parked, walked up 14 steps, 9 more, up to the office, and it took half an hour. They did 17 this morning. Bring a photocopy of your drivers license and pistol license, the names, phones, and addresses of 2 references in NY, and $20. Walked out with a plastic photo license. Wife did it too. |
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Posted: 12/27/2013 5:06:32 PM EDT
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I left at 7:15 this morning, and got back at 4:50pm.
Renewed at Centre county Thruway to Rt 84 to 81 to 80 to 220 (?), to 550, street by the courthouse, up the hill, down the hill, parked, walked up 14 steps, 9 more, up to the office, and it took half an hour. They did 17 this morning. Bring a photocopy of your drivers license and pistol license, the names, phones, and addresses of 2 references in NY, and $20. Walked out with a plastic photo license. Wife did it too. Are you required to do the renewal in the same county that issued the non-res? Also, what's with the references? 
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Posted: 12/27/2013 5:14:43 PM EDT
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Are you required to do the renewal in the same county that issued the non-res? Also, what's with the references? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I left at 7:15 this morning, and got back at 4:50pm.
Renewed at Centre county Thruway to Rt 84 to 81 to 80 to 220 (?), to 550, street by the courthouse, up the hill, down the hill, parked, walked up 14 steps, 9 more, up to the office, and it took half an hour. They did 17 this morning. Bring a photocopy of your drivers license and pistol license, the names, phones, and addresses of 2 references in NY, and $20. Walked out with a plastic photo license. Wife did it too. Are you required to do the renewal in the same county that issued the non-res? Also, what's with the references? Two people to stand up for you. The forum is two pages long fuac and Funys |
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Posted: 12/27/2013 5:15:44 PM EDT
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I left at 7:15 this morning, and got back at 4:50pm.
Renewed at Centre county Thruway to Rt 84 to 81 to 80 to 220 (?), to 550, street by the courthouse, up the hill, down the hill, parked, walked up 14 steps, 9 more, up to the office, and it took half an hour. They did 17 this morning. Bring a photocopy of your drivers license and pistol license, the names, phones, and addresses of 2 references in NY, and $20. Walked out with a plastic photo license. Wife did it too. Any chance of it being that fast for a first time application? Centre Co sure is a far drive. 
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Posted: 12/27/2013 5:17:31 PM EDT
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Dup
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Posted: 12/28/2013 5:17:01 AM EDT
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Any chance of it being that fast for a first time application? Centre Co sure is a far drive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I left at 7:15 this morning, and got back at 4:50pm.
Renewed at Centre county Thruway to Rt 84 to 81 to 80 to 220 (?), to 550, street by the courthouse, up the hill, down the hill, parked, walked up 14 steps, 9 more, up to the office, and it took half an hour. They did 17 this morning. Bring a photocopy of your drivers license and pistol license, the names, phones, and addresses of 2 references in NY, and $20. Walked out with a plastic photo license. Wife did it too. Any chance of it being that fast for a first time application? Centre Co sure is a far drive. Yep, wife's was a first time application, 10 minutes and she had her PA permit. We went there this summer, in and out in 20 minutes or so. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 6:08:01 AM EDT
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I had a Centre County permit, but it went through the wash or something. Think they will send me a duplicate?
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Posted: 12/28/2013 1:37:10 PM EDT
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My original was Centre Co. (by mail $26.00) then when we needed to apply in person, I went to Lancaster ($20.00 plus a lot of gas) for my renewal . I ran into a few snags as the statewide computer system was down on two different Mondays, so it took us three trips for a renewal.
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Posted: 12/28/2013 2:50:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/29/2013 12:09:50 PM EDT
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Most of the PA counties will not issue a non resident permit if you do not have a NYS full carry. Centre Co will. It is a long ride to Centre County but the people there were great and we were in and out in 10-15 minutes.
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Posted: 12/29/2013 1:17:47 PM EDT
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Wayne county is quick.
I think it's the closest county to you. |
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Posted: 12/29/2013 1:40:56 PM EDT
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I recently went to Lackawana County. The Sheriff's office there is in Scranton, Pistol Licensing Office is on the 2nd floor.
They could not have been nicer or more accomodating! Great girls that work there, very nice, very professional. Twenty Bucks, Twenty Minutes (if that). Walked out with a plastic license to replace my expiring paper one from Centre County. That was just too much of a drive for me. If I had to go that far, I probably would not have bothered, to be honest. |
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Posted: 12/29/2013 1:54:22 PM EDT
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I recently went to Lackawana County. The Sheriff's office there is in Scranton, Pistol Licensing Office is on the 2nd floor. They could not have been nicer or more accomodating! Great girls that work there, very nice, very professional. Twenty Bucks, Twenty Minutes (if that). Walked out with a plastic license to replace my expiring paper one from Centre County. That was just too much of a drive for me. If I had to go that far, I probably would not have bothered, to be honest. I hear you, brother! My wife and daughter made a day of it, and we had a great time doing it. If I had known about Scranton or Wayne, I would have tried there. There is a real lack of info on a Google search about this. |
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Posted: 12/29/2013 7:21:58 PM EDT
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I had a Centre County permit, but it went through the wash or something. Think they will send me a duplicate? I requested a replacement as I lost a wallet with mine in it. Sandy over there sent one at N/C. I'm looking back at some records, it looks like I was able to do it over the phone, as far as the request. Hopefully you have a copy to reference on hand. |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 4:49:47 AM EDT
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Sorry to hijack but who know of one near Binghamton that issues?
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Posted: 12/30/2013 7:22:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry to hijack but who know of one near Binghamton that issues? |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 7:29:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was also looking into this, but unfortunately it appears as though Honesdale and Scranton are the closest options. Susquehanna County and Bradford County both stopped issuing non-res permits back in May. If you own property in either county, they will...but you're out of luck if you don't. I also spoke with a woman at the Sheriff's office in Honesdale, and she mentioned that "Full-Carry" or "Unrestricted" must be printed on your permit somewhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sorry to hijack but who know of one near Binghamton that issues?  ) |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 7:35:26 AM EDT
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I have an unrestricted permit but it doesn't say anything like that on it. I know nothing about PA law, can the Sheriff just make shit up like that (ie like NY does ) That's strange. Mine says "unrestricted" plain as day on it. Maybe because my county issues mostly "target / hunting, etc." licenses. Aimless, are all licenses in your county unrestricted? Maybe that's why, as it goes without saying there. As to the latitude given PA sheriffs, I'd say it's pretty wide, since some do not issues non-res altogether, while others freely do. |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 7:51:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's strange. Mine says "unrestricted" plain as day on it. Maybe because my county issues mostly "target / hunting, etc." licenses. Aimless, are all licenses in your county unrestricted? Maybe that's why, as it goes without saying there. As to the latitude given PA sheriffs, I'd say it's pretty wide, since some do not issues non-res altogether, while others freely do. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have an unrestricted permit but it doesn't say anything like that on it. I know nothing about PA law, can the Sheriff just make shit up like that (ie like NY does ) That's strange. Mine says "unrestricted" plain as day on it. Maybe because my county issues mostly "target / hunting, etc." licenses. Aimless, are all licenses in your county unrestricted? Maybe that's why, as it goes without saying there. As to the latitude given PA sheriffs, I'd say it's pretty wide, since some do not issues non-res altogether, while others freely do. |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 8:14:09 AM EDT
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Mine has the date I originally received my "hunting/target" permit, and "full carry" printed next to the date I received the unrestricted.
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Posted: 12/30/2013 8:37:48 AM EDT
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Careful about getting a new permit. I heard a horror story at a handgun training class. Guy went to get the new plastic PP and it came back restricted to Sportsman.
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Posted: 12/30/2013 9:50:33 AM EDT
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Careful about getting a new permit. I heard a horror story at a handgun training class. Guy went to get the new plastic PP and it came back restricted to Sportsman. Must have been a reason? What county? |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 1:11:01 PM EDT
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I don't know if it is related, but when I applied over in Media, PA for my non-resident, there was a question on the app asking to state reason for permit. I asked the lady at the counter what to put and she told me to put"self defense". Perhaps if this fellow did the typical NY thing and put Target shooting or hunting for the reason, that might be cause for the restriction. (?)
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Posted: 12/30/2013 4:18:04 PM EDT
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Must have been a reason? What county? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Careful about getting a new permit. I heard a horror story at a handgun training class. Guy went to get the new plastic PP and it came back restricted to Sportsman. Must have been a reason? What county? New judge with a vendetta? |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 4:25:32 PM EDT
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That's strange. Mine says "unrestricted" plain as day on it. Maybe because my county issues mostly "target / hunting, etc." licenses. Aimless, are all licenses in your county unrestricted? Maybe that's why, as it goes without saying there. As to the latitude given PA sheriffs, I'd say it's pretty wide, since some do not issues non-res altogether, while others freely do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have an unrestricted permit but it doesn't say anything like that on it. I know nothing about PA law, can the Sheriff just make shit up like that (ie like NY does ) That's strange. Mine says "unrestricted" plain as day on it. Maybe because my county issues mostly "target / hunting, etc." licenses. Aimless, are all licenses in your county unrestricted? Maybe that's why, as it goes without saying there. As to the latitude given PA sheriffs, I'd say it's pretty wide, since some do not issues non-res altogether, while others freely do. Problem is no one has sued a Sheffir in state court in pa. Not worth the hassle for what I have been informed. Being a common wealth the rules are very different than a state. |
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Posted: 1/2/2014 1:06:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhen did you get your permit in Wayne County? It appears Wayne are no longer issuing non-res permits. Is Lancaster County still issuing? |
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Posted: 1/2/2014 3:54:36 PM EDT
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Is Lancaster County still issuing? That's where I picked mine up. |
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Posted: 1/2/2014 3:57:10 PM EDT
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That's where I picked mine up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is Lancaster County still issuing? That's where I picked mine up. How long ago was that? |
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Posted: 1/2/2014 5:06:04 PM EDT
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How long ago was that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is Lancaster County still issuing? That's where I picked mine up. How long ago was that? 2013...04/16 Bill ETA: It was considered a new issue, I guess they did not think my Center County was my first PA license. |
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Posted: 1/2/2014 5:58:08 PM EDT
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2013...04/16 Bill ETA: It was considered a new issue, I guess they did not think my Center County was my first PA license. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is Lancaster County still issuing? That's where I picked mine up. How long ago was that? 2013...04/16 Bill ETA: It was considered a new issue, I guess they did not think my Center County was my first PA license. That's at the time Pike and bunch of other stopped issuing non res permits. Would not surprise me if Lancaster went the same way. |
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Posted: 1/2/2014 8:12:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When did you get your permit in Wayne County? It appears Wayne are no longer issuing non-res permits. Is Lancaster County still issuing? Quote HistoryQuoted: When did you get your permit in Wayne County? It appears Wayne are no longer issuing non-res permits. Is Lancaster County still issuing? |
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Posted: 1/3/2014 1:08:04 AM EDT
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I just spoke with someone in the Wayne County Sheriffs dept. this past Monday. They were still issuing then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When did you get your permit in Wayne County? It appears Wayne are no longer issuing non-res permits. Is Lancaster County still issuing? Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/3/2014 3:36:59 AM EDT
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That's at the time Pike and bunch of other stopped issuing non res permits. Would not surprise me if Lancaster went the same way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is Lancaster County still issuing? That's where I picked mine up. How long ago was that? 2013...04/16 Bill ETA: It was considered a new issue, I guess they did not think my Center County was my first PA license. That's at the time Pike and bunch of other stopped issuing non res permits. Would not surprise me if Lancaster went the same way. What I did when they went to "Must be in person" application process, is call all nearby counties to determine who would issue. If you need a PA permit, just start calling all sheriffs office. Then again, we could talk about it for weeks on end here... Bill |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 11:22:30 AM EDT
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OP Update
Info for Wayne Co. for anyone interested. Requires NY unrestricted licence 2 character references are put down on PA application form and letters are mailed to your references. 5 dollars when app is dropped off. 15 more when PA LTCF is approved. New application is not a one-time trip. One trip to drop off the paperwork and another trip to pick up the licence once it's been approved. 07Jan: Filled out forms located at http://co.wayne.pa.us/sheriff/ under LTCF section. Brought them down in person. One of my references came along for the ride so he filled out the letter while we were there. Submitted the paperwork, gave the clerk 5 dollars and got my picture taken. Few days later my other reference got the character reference letter in the mail. 21Jan: Approval letter came in the mail dated 16Jan. 22Jan: Drove down with the approval letter and paid the remaining 15 dollars and the clerk printed and lamented the LTCF. The girl working behind the counter was very nice and helpful. I was in the office no more than 10 minutes each time. Very quick and easy. The drive is the worst part. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 3:16:29 PM EDT
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Can someone get a PA permit with a NY premises permit?
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Posted: 1/22/2014 3:28:25 PM EDT
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Can someone get a PA permit with a NY premises permit? Nope has to be full carry Now if you move to pa. Its the same application 2 page form, max 45 days to obtain it.. Plus no pistols are listed on it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 3:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope has to be full carry Now if you move to pa. Its the same application 2 page form, max 45 days to obtain it.. Plus no pistols are listed on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can someone get a PA permit with a NY premises permit? Nope has to be full carry Now if you move to pa. Its the same application 2 page form, max 45 days to obtain it.. Plus no pistols are listed on it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 5:14:52 PM EDT
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In general, I like PA. It's a nice state with nice people and mostly 2A rights friendly. I would have no problem renewing my non-resident PA permit via US Mail but between my Utah non-res and NH non-resident permit I don't really need to drive to PA to renew my PA non-res. At least according to:
http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here but PA is just throwing easy money away by not at least allowing renewals via US Mail. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 4:43:16 AM EDT
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Can someone get a PA permit with a NY premises permit? Nope has to be full carry Is that part of the new law along with having to apply in person? When I got my PA permit from Centre County about 3-4 years ago, they issued me one based on a restricted NY permit. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 5:08:53 AM EDT
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Is that part of the new law along with having to apply in person? When I got my PA permit from Centre County about 3-4 years ago, they issued me one based on a restricted NY permit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can someone get a PA permit with a NY premises permit? Nope has to be full carry Is that part of the new law along with having to apply in person? When I got my PA permit from Centre County about 3-4 years ago, they issued me one based on a restricted NY permit. Remember Pa is a common wealth.. Different way how things operate in the "state". In the common wealth laws there is nothing that's states it must be a full carry for an out-state permit. Sheriffs are using what ever they want to "not process" your permit application. The catch is this you would have to submit your application and have them deny it and than you would have to sue the sheriff in state court Harrisburg. It is a shall issue state.If you win and they have to issue your permit every time you reapply for your permit when it expires you have to check you were denied a permit and that could be a reason for non renewal kicking of another court battle. Your better off going with a Utah permit many more states you can carry legally in it than just the PA permit. The reasons why i obtained my non resident permit were I spend all my money and free time in PA, FUAC, FUNYS, and i plan on moving into PA next July time frame. Since i already have a non resident permit i prove I'm a resident and they do the pics check and issue me the pa permit on the spot. To me PA is just a jump point to get out of NYS. I only have my kids here and NYS and its up to them to either leave or stay they will be all over 18 by next year, but I'm out. My wife and I have our remaining family in southern NJ and i refuse to go to another communist shite hole. So PA was a place i could enjoy hunting, fishing, shooting while are parents are still alive. After they are gone PA maybe not be option any longer it will become any red state as an option at that point. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 6:01:50 AM EDT
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I dropped my PA permit. The UT one is good in PA, and a whole lot of other states. Could also go with FL, too.
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Posted: 1/23/2014 6:35:34 AM EDT
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I dropped my PA permit. The UT one is good in PA, and a whole lot of other states. Could also go with FL, too. My view point if your not looking at moving to PA i would go with UT permit its a win win since many more states at this point you can carry in. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 7:26:34 AM EDT
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I dropped my PA permit. The UT one is good in PA, and a whole lot of other states. Could also go with FL, too. A non-res FL permit is no longer any good in PA. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 8:51:38 AM EDT
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Imagine the shitstorm if states decided driver's licenses were treated like CCW permits?
I want that just to piss everyone off.  |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 9:56:09 AM EDT
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My view point if your not looking at moving to PA i would go with UT permit its a win win since many more states at this point you can carry in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dropped my PA permit. The UT one is good in PA, and a whole lot of other states. Could also go with FL, too. My view point if your not looking at moving to PA i would go with UT permit its a win win since many more states at this point you can carry in. Does the non-res PA license expedite or simplify the process upon moving to PA or something? |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 11:05:39 AM EDT
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Does the non-res PA license expedite or simplify the process upon moving to PA or something? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dropped my PA permit. The UT one is good in PA, and a whole lot of other states. Could also go with FL, too. My view point if your not looking at moving to PA i would go with UT permit its a win win since many more states at this point you can carry in. Does the non-res PA license expedite or simplify the process upon moving to PA or something? yes as soon as you become a resident and can prove it. You go to the local sheriff office and apply they do the pics check again and issue you your permit on the spot. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 11:18:34 AM EDT
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yes as soon as you become a resident and can prove it. You go to the local sheriff office and apply they do the pics check again and issue you your permit on the spot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dropped my PA permit. The UT one is good in PA, and a whole lot of other states. Could also go with FL, too. My view point if your not looking at moving to PA i would go with UT permit its a win win since many more states at this point you can carry in. Does the non-res PA license expedite or simplify the process upon moving to PA or something? yes as soon as you become a resident and can prove it. You go to the local sheriff office and apply they do the pics check again and issue you your permit on the spot. Sweet! Hope to see that in action in a few months! |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 11:43:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, they started restricted permits since I got mine. My permit is old as EdSr though and has to be replaced, maybe the new one will say unrestrited. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have an unrestricted permit but it doesn't say anything like that on it. I know nothing about PA law, can the Sheriff just make shit up like that (ie like NY does ) That's strange. Mine says "unrestricted" plain as day on it. Maybe because my county issues mostly "target / hunting, etc." licenses. Aimless, are all licenses in your county unrestricted? Maybe that's why, as it goes without saying there. As to the latitude given PA sheriffs, I'd say it's pretty wide, since some do not issues non-res altogether, while others freely do. My Onondaga permit just says "Carry."
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