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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:30:25 PM EDT
Please go to their site to send an email or call your rep monday. I would like very much to carry a Tops Ice double edge neck knife.
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Long time no see there stranger.
This should have been taken care of with the switchblade repeal. But, hopefully this will pass and put an end to another pointless law. |
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Out of committee and to the floor for a vote. Keep up the pressure.
https://kniferights.org/legislative-update/action-alert-knife-rights-texas-illegal-knife-repeal-bill-hearing/ |
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Please, our knife laws are embarrassing. Please, please, make it through.
I can carry a rifle or hangun but a 5.6" knife, double edged knife, or etc is illegal, fucking bs. |
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So, if this passes....whose a good Texas knife maker to get a Bowie from?
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the same one that sells the best motor oil.
Best is very subjective |
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Trying to remember what happened last session....got to the other chamber IiRC and never got voted on.
Could be misremembering though. Anyways, hope this gets made to law, this issues needs to be put to bed once and for all. |
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Done. Thanks for the clicky link. I hope it passes and gets signed into law.
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He didn't ask for best... he asked who was good. Multiple answers could be acceptable. FWIW, I'd like to know too.... i'd love to get me a beautiful but functional Bowie style knife... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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MateFrio, was going to page you to get you to post pix of your infamous knife.
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I have this Boker:
https://www.knife-depot.com/knife-3578.html It's hair shaving sharp right out of the box. Sits in my center console and gets used often. |
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Thanks, UT stabber.
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/knives-longer-than-inches-remain-illegal-under-amended-house-bill/V1K0PJgSVcASN22fuscBJL/ New knife signs to go along with the 30.06/07? |
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I have an older Case Rio Grand Bowie with Stag handle I bought at a flea market down in Junction, Needs a better sheath, but it is pretty enough to accompany me at BBQ's.
https://search.aol.com/aol/image?q=case+rio+grande+bowie+knife&s_it=img-ans&imgId=FF95433103E90A0AD293507775987186432E76E6&s_chn=prt_bon&v_t=comsearch Paladin |
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I have an older Case Rio Grand Bowie with Stag handle I bought at a flea market down in Junction, Needs a better sheath, but it is pretty enough to accompany me at BBQ's. https://search.aol.com/aol/image?q=case+rio+grande+bowie+knife&s_it=img-ans&imgId=FF95433103E90A0AD293507775987186432E76E6&s_chn=prt_bon&v_t=comsearch Paladin View Quote |
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So now your 16 year old can not carry a knife except at home, or under an adults direst supervision ? What the hell?
More bad than good in this bill now. Kill it. |
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Full text of amendment here.
What I think it means (IANAL) is that 5.5"+ knives are legal, but can't be carried in bars, hospitals, schools, etc, and can't be carried if you are under 18. It appears those restrictions are only on 5.5"+ blades. |
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Full text of amendment here. What I think it means (IANAL) is that 5.5"+ knives are legal, but can't be carried in bars, hospitals, schools, etc, and can't be carried if you are under 18. It appears those restrictions are only on 5.5"+ blades. View Quote |
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The bill, as amended, makes knife possession more restrictive in regards to a minor than Section 46.13( making a firearm available to a child)
Also there are more places you can not carry a knife than your handgun. |
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Yeah, this needs to pass. Finally had a chance to read it.
Essentially removes the definition of illegal knife and just says knives over 5.5" are prohibited. Also does not remove exception to 46.02 to a license holder via 46.15. Prohibited places still stand for blades Over 5.5" and some juvenile stuff I don't care about. All in all a good move by the Legislature. |
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Give this some thought.
You take a nephew or a niece on a camping /hunting trip. They are teens and you get them to use a machete to clear some brush. Their parents are not there. As the law is written, that is a crime. I realize most LEOs would just not even give it a second thought but the LEOs that would shoot a chihuahua on someone's front porch behind a fence, do you trust THEM not to arrest your niece/nephew? Just because something supposedly "won't be enforced"( see NY SAFE Act) does not mean it should be passed into law. It should be killed and they should try again next session. Yes, most of it is good, but then again, most of FOPA is good as well. |
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Under your scenario above thats covered under 46.02 (a-4) and the worst thing they would get is a ticket.
Class c misdemeanor. if you're camping that is your temporary residence, a place where you're living. I don't see how that's an issue unless they're trespassing on someone else's private property while camping. |
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As juveniles they could be taken in and have their parent/guardian come get them.
Remember, the amendments are very specific. How about scouts? Summer camps? I still say kill it. These amendments were thrown in at the last possible second by hand wringing democrats in response to the UT stabbing. The amendments potentially make criminals out of your kids. Think Lautenberg Act. Misdemeanor assault charges came back and retroactively took a lot of folks gun rights away. Think a misdemeanor weapons charge might do the same due to some jacked up fed.gov legislation? |
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Give this some thought. You take a nephew or a niece on a camping /hunting trip. They are teens and you get them to use a machete to clear some brush. Their parents are not there. As the law is written, that is a crime. I realize most LEOs would just not even give it a second thought but the LEOs that would shoot a chihuahua on someone's front porch behind a fence, do you trust THEM not to arrest your niece/nephew? Just because something supposedly "won't be enforced"( see NY SAFE Act) does not mean it should be passed into law. It should be killed and they should try again next session. Yes, most of it is good, but then again, most of FOPA is good as well. View Quote |
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As juveniles they could be taken in and have their parent/guardian come get them. Remember, the amendments are very specific. How about scouts? Summer camps? I still say kill it. These amendments were thrown in at the last possible second by hand wringing democrats in response to the UT stabbing. The amendments potentially make criminals out of your kids. Think Lautenberg Act. Misdemeanor assault charges came back and retroactively took a lot of folks gun rights away. Think a misdemeanor weapons charge might do the same due to some jacked up fed.gov legislation? View Quote 46.035 would prohibit >5.5" knives at non-posted amusement parks, hospitals, and churches, even though I can carry a pistol there legally. The blanket prohibition for juveniles makes it impossible for teens to learn how to properly and safely use machetes or large knives for scoutcraft and woodsmanship, unless taught individually by each one's parents. The definition of "location-restricted knife" also still includes daggers, bowie knives, swords, spears, etc because of the broad definition of "knife" in 46.01(7). The words are gone, but the restriction is still there (but limited to <18 or in specific places). |
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I agree. The amendments took a simple repeal bill, and turned it into convoluted crap. 46.035 would prohibit >5.5" knives at non-posted amusement parks, hospitals, and churches, even though I can carry a pistol there legally. The blanket prohibition for juveniles makes it impossible for teens to learn how to properly and safely use machetes or large knives for scoutcraft and woodsmanship, unless taught individually by each one's parents. The definition of "location-restricted knife" also still includes daggers, bowie knives, swords, spears, etc because of the broad definition of "knife" in 46.01(7). The words are gone, but the restriction is still there (but limited to <18 or in specific places). View Quote |
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HB1935 is referred to the Senate Criminal Justice Committee. If you've got concerns about it, voice them to the committee members, and maybe they will change it.
HB1935 Senate Criminal Justice Committee |
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Mother......f......sons a bitches I hope those demonholecraps rot in .......hell!!! I CURSE THEIR NAMES!! This shit pisses me off.
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Those friggen fragggenn socialist are THE cancer of this great state and should be eradicated.
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HB1935 is referred to the Senate Criminal Justice Committee. If you've got concerns about it, voice them to the committee members, and maybe they will change it. HB1935 Senate Criminal Justice Committee View Quote Ask them to remove the amendments to the original bill, and explain why. Otherwise if this gets passed as amended we will need to contact the governors office and ask him to veto it. It is a bad bill as amended. |
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Have y'all contacted the folks in the above link? Ask them to remove the amendments to the original bill, and explain why. Otherwise if this gets passed as amended we will need to contact the governors office and ask him to veto it. It is a bad bill as amended. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Have y'all contacted the folks in the above link? Ask them to remove the amendments to the original bill, and explain why. Otherwise if this gets passed as amended we will need to contact the governors office and ask him to veto it. It is a bad bill as amended. For reference, this is the letter I wrote a few days ago to the above committee members. Feel free to borrow, adapt, or add things I missed. Senator <name>, I am writing to you about HB1935, referred to your committee from the House. This bill was originally intended to be a simple repeal of Texas' prohibition on knives deemed "illegal knives", specifically those with blades longer than 5.5 inches, swords, spears, or the poorly defined terms "dagger" and "bowie knife." Repealing this outdated section of law has been a priority for knife-rights groups for many years, and remains an important goal in broadening Texas freedoms. However, I am very concerned by the amendment added to HB1935 by Representative Dutton in the House. The amendment made this simple bill unnecessarily convoluted and created new offenses that could have broad unintended and undesirable consequences. These are a couple of the major issues with this bill as referred from the House: 1) The amendment adds prohibitions to 46.03 on possessing a "location-restricted knife" (a blade longer than 5.5 inches) in a list of places that mirror the places handguns are prohibited in 46.035. This prohibited places list should not exist at all, but by choosing to add this prohibition to 46.03 instead of 46.02 or 46.035, the amendment does two undesirable things; - 1st, it sidesteps the non-applicability section 46.15(b)(6) that generally exempts holders of a License To Carry a Handgun from 46.02. This has always been a key aspect of the carrying of large knives, reflecting the reasonable idea that if a person is able to legally carry a handgun, they should also be able to legally carry a knife, regardless of blade length. This is how 46.02 and 46.15 currently operate, but this bill would break that logical tie. - 2nd, the list of prohibited places in the amendment does NOT have an exemption similar to 46.035(i), which excludes from the prohibited places list amusement parks, hospitals, and churches which are not posted under sections 30.06 or 30.07. The result is a trap where a person legally carrying a handgun in these locations cannot also carry a large knife, despite it being legal to carry both items elsewhere. This would be most common in churches, which frequently do not post 30.06 or 30.07 signs. I can't emphasize enough that THIS IS A NEW RESTRICTION THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY, and would make criminals out of otherwise law-abiding people who may not recognize this subtlety. 2) The amendment creates a prohibition against minors (under 18) possessing a "location-restricted knife" unless on premises under his control or under direct supervision of a parent or legal guardian. This provision would make it impossible for organizations like the Boy Scouts of America to teach safe usage of machetes or large knives for clearing brush, splitting wood, and other campcraft. Likewise, teens who volunteer at church dinners or food pantries would be unable to use many common kitchen knives without becoming criminals. This is a useless prohibition that does nothing to increase safety or prevent teen violence. HB1935 as referred is severely flawed and creates a convoluted web of new restrictions that undermine the original purpose of the bill, and create dangerous unintended traps for law-abiding good people. I urge you to strip the bill of the Dutton amendment in committee and give the Senate a clean simple bill to repeal this useless section of Texas law. Thank you for your consideration and dedication to Texas freedoms. |
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Welcome to Texas, where every rule is down in the weeds and you have to practically be a lawyer just to figure out if you're "allowed" to do anything.
It's nothing short of amazing that you are legally "allowed" to carry an AR-15 down the street, but you better leave that 6" knife back home, buster, or you'll be in BIG TROUBLE. The answer, of course, is ever more complicated and numerous laws. |
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HB 1935 reported favorably out of committee without amendments. Recommended for "Local and Uncontested" calendar. Placed on the regular order of business for Sunday, May 21, 2017.
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Well, that's unfortunate. Just emailed Larry Taylor to make him aware of the issues with it.
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it says 2017-05-19SenateReported favorably w/o amendments
Does that mean that the amendments were stripped out ? |
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it says 2017-05-19SenateReported favorably w/o amendments Does that mean that the amendments were stripped out ? View Quote Text is here. HB1935 |
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Ok, I saw that HB 1935 passed the Senate yesterday and will be heading to the Governor for his signature.
Sadly I also see that amendment about "locally restricted knives" remained in it. If I am reading the amendment right "locally restricted" means a knife with a blade over 5.5 inches. WTF? Am I missing something here? |
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