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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:30:25 PM EDT
Please go to their site to send an email or call your rep monday.  I would like very much to carry a Tops Ice double edge neck knife.
Clicky Linky
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 8:58:49 PM EDT
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Nice job posting this! Emails sent.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:20:24 PM EDT
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Long time no see there stranger.

This should have been taken care of with the switchblade repeal.  But, hopefully this will pass and put an end to another pointless  law.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:52:44 PM EDT
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Done. 

Thanx!
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:54:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:30:15 PM EDT
[#5]
Done!
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 1:34:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:35:59 PM EDT
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Please, our knife laws are embarrassing.  Please, please, make it through.

I can carry a rifle or hangun but a 5.6" knife, double edged knife, or etc is illegal, fucking bs.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 7:49:12 PM EDT
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Done
Link Posted: 4/22/2017 12:39:33 PM EDT
[#9]
Done and passed on.
Link Posted: 4/25/2017 11:14:37 AM EDT
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So, if this passes....whose a good Texas knife maker to get a Bowie from?
Link Posted: 4/25/2017 3:59:19 PM EDT
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the same one that sells the best motor oil.

Best is very subjective
Link Posted: 4/25/2017 5:46:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/25/2017 9:21:03 PM EDT
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Done. Thanks for the clicky link. I hope it passes and gets signed into law.
Link Posted: 4/26/2017 11:28:47 PM EDT
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the same one that sells the best motor oil.

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He didn't ask for best...  he asked who was good.  Multiple answers could be acceptable.

FWIW, I'd like to know too....  i'd love to get me a beautiful but functional Bowie style knife...
Link Posted: 4/27/2017 9:34:37 PM EDT
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He didn't ask for best...  he asked who was good.  Multiple answers could be acceptable.

FWIW, I'd like to know too....  i'd love to get me a beautiful but functional Bowie style knife...
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the same one that sells the best motor oil.

Best is very subjective
He didn't ask for best...  he asked who was good.  Multiple answers could be acceptable.

FWIW, I'd like to know too....  i'd love to get me a beautiful but functional Bowie style knife...
I would want something nice, but not a show piece.  Something I wouldn't be afraid to use.  Then again I drag plenty of expensive rifles to matches and hunting and other fun stuff.
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 1:40:15 PM EDT
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A Randall Bowie would be sweet!
Link Posted: 5/1/2017 10:56:08 PM EDT
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Darnit.  UT incident may have put any hope for this bill ....
Link Posted: 5/1/2017 11:31:49 PM EDT
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MateFrio, was going to page you to get you to post pix of your infamous knife.
Link Posted: 5/2/2017 9:50:38 AM EDT
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MateFrio, was going to page you to get you to post pix of your infamous knife.
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Rock Creek Wapiti with my Emerson Commander.  They're a great value if you can find one.
Link Posted: 5/2/2017 4:16:54 PM EDT
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HB1935 was placed on house calendar yesterday for 5/5/2017.
Link Posted: 5/2/2017 4:21:21 PM EDT
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I have this Boker:

https://www.knife-depot.com/knife-3578.html


It's hair shaving sharp right out of the box.  Sits in my center console and gets used often.
Link Posted: 5/2/2017 4:26:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/9/2017 11:05:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/9/2017 11:54:26 AM EDT
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I have an older Case Rio Grand Bowie with Stag handle I bought at a flea market down in Junction,  Needs a better sheath, but it is pretty enough to accompany me at BBQ's.

https://search.aol.com/aol/image?q=case+rio+grande+bowie+knife&s_it=img-ans&imgId=FF95433103E90A0AD293507775987186432E76E6&s_chn=prt_bon&v_t=comsearch

Paladin
Link Posted: 5/9/2017 2:16:06 PM EDT
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I have an older Case Rio Grand Bowie with Stag handle I bought at a flea market down in Junction,  Needs a better sheath, but it is pretty enough to accompany me at BBQ's.

https://search.aol.com/aol/image?q=case+rio+grande+bowie+knife&s_it=img-ans&imgId=FF95433103E90A0AD293507775987186432E76E6&s_chn=prt_bon&v_t=comsearch

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I actually like the sheath.  Simple beauty.
Link Posted: 5/9/2017 3:37:11 PM EDT
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So now your 16 year old can not carry a knife except at home, or under an adults direst supervision ? What the hell?

More bad than good in this bill now. Kill it.
Link Posted: 5/9/2017 4:56:06 PM EDT
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Full text of amendment here.

What I think it means (IANAL) is that 5.5"+ knives are legal, but can't be carried in bars, hospitals, schools, etc, and can't be carried if you are under 18.  It appears those restrictions are only on 5.5"+ blades.
Link Posted: 5/9/2017 5:41:44 PM EDT
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Full text of amendment here.

What I think it means (IANAL) is that 5.5"+ knives are legal, but can't be carried in bars, hospitals, schools, etc, and can't be carried if you are under 18.  It appears those restrictions are only on 5.5"+ blades.
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I think it can be interpreted as all knives previously listed as illegal are now location restricted the under 18 provisions are truly a poison pill.
Link Posted: 5/9/2017 6:01:50 PM EDT
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The bill, as amended, makes knife possession more restrictive in regards to a minor than Section 46.13( making a firearm available to a child)

Also there are more places you can not carry a knife than your handgun.
Link Posted: 5/10/2017 7:54:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/11/2017 6:23:41 AM EDT
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Give this some thought.

You take a nephew or a niece on a camping /hunting trip. They are teens and you get them to use a machete to clear some brush.

Their parents are not there.

As the law is written, that is a crime. I realize most LEOs would just not even give it a second thought but the LEOs that would shoot a chihuahua on someone's front porch behind a fence, do you trust THEM not to arrest your niece/nephew?

Just because something supposedly "won't be enforced"( see NY SAFE Act) does not mean it should be passed into law.

It should be killed and they should try again next session.

Yes, most of it is good, but then again, most of FOPA is good as well.
Link Posted: 5/11/2017 9:49:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/11/2017 10:50:23 AM EDT
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As juveniles they could be taken in and have their parent/guardian come get them.

Remember, the amendments are very specific.

How about scouts? Summer camps?

I still say kill it. These amendments were thrown in at the last possible second by hand wringing democrats in response to the UT stabbing.


The amendments potentially make criminals out of your kids.

Think Lautenberg Act.

Misdemeanor assault charges came back and retroactively took a lot of folks gun rights away.

Think a misdemeanor weapons charge might do the same due to some jacked up fed.gov legislation?
Link Posted: 5/11/2017 11:35:20 AM EDT
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It should be killed and they should try again next session.

Yes, most of it is good, but then again, most of FOPA is good as well.
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Before it's killed, there's still opportunity to clean it up in the Senate.  Call your Senator.
Link Posted: 5/11/2017 11:42:53 AM EDT
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Give this some thought.

You take a nephew or a niece on a camping /hunting trip. They are teens and you get them to use a machete to clear some brush.

Their parents are not there.

As the law is written, that is a crime. I realize most LEOs would just not even give it a second thought but the LEOs that would shoot a chihuahua on someone's front porch behind a fence, do you trust THEM not to arrest your niece/nephew?

Just because something supposedly "won't be enforced"( see NY SAFE Act) does not mean it should be passed into law.

It should be killed and they should try again next session.

Yes, most of it is good, but then again, most of FOPA is good as well.
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Well since you are technically their legal guardian at the time of the hunting/camping trip.... so no they aren't breaking the law.
Link Posted: 5/11/2017 12:06:15 PM EDT
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Well since you are technically their legal guardian at the time of the hunting/camping trip.... so no they aren't breaking the law.
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You may need to go and look up the legal definition of "legal guardian" in Texas.

It is not what you seem to think it is.
Link Posted: 5/12/2017 10:20:27 PM EDT
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As juveniles they could be taken in and have their parent/guardian come get them.

Remember, the amendments are very specific.

How about scouts? Summer camps?

I still say kill it. These amendments were thrown in at the last possible second by hand wringing democrats in response to the UT stabbing.


The amendments potentially make criminals out of your kids.

Think Lautenberg Act.

Misdemeanor assault charges came back and retroactively took a lot of folks gun rights away.

Think a misdemeanor weapons charge might do the same due to some jacked up fed.gov legislation?
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I agree.  The amendments took a simple repeal bill, and turned it into convoluted crap.  

46.035 would prohibit >5.5" knives at non-posted amusement parks, hospitals, and churches, even though I can carry a pistol there legally.  

The blanket prohibition for juveniles makes it impossible for teens to learn how to properly and safely use machetes or large knives for scoutcraft and woodsmanship, unless taught individually by each one's parents.  

The definition of "location-restricted knife" also still includes daggers, bowie knives, swords, spears, etc because of the broad definition of "knife" in 46.01(7).  The words are gone, but the restriction is still there (but limited to <18 or in specific places).
Link Posted: 5/12/2017 10:51:43 PM EDT
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I agree.  The amendments took a simple repeal bill, and turned it into convoluted crap.  

46.035 would prohibit >5.5" knives at non-posted amusement parks, hospitals, and churches, even though I can carry a pistol there legally.  

The blanket prohibition for juveniles makes it impossible for teens to learn how to properly and safely use machetes or large knives for scoutcraft and woodsmanship, unless taught individually by each one's parents.  

The definition of "location-restricted knife" also still includes daggers, bowie knives, swords, spears, etc because of the broad definition of "knife" in 46.01(7).  The words are gone, but the restriction is still there (but limited to <18 or in specific places).
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I agree. The bill as amended, or at least the draft as of May 8, is confusing and convoluted.
Link Posted: 5/13/2017 11:34:47 AM EDT
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HB1935 is referred to the Senate Criminal Justice Committee.  If you've got concerns about it, voice them to the committee members, and maybe they will change it.  

HB1935

Senate Criminal Justice Committee
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 7:50:06 PM EDT
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Mother......f......sons a bitches I hope those demonholecraps rot in .......hell!!!  I CURSE THEIR NAMES!!  This shit pisses me off.
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 9:00:48 PM EDT
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Those friggen fragggenn socialist are THE cancer of this great state and should be eradicated.
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 9:25:21 PM EDT
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HB1935 is referred to the Senate Criminal Justice Committee.  If you've got concerns about it, voice them to the committee members, and maybe they will change it.  

HB1935

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Have y'all contacted the folks in the above link?

Ask them to remove the amendments to the original bill, and explain why. Otherwise if this gets passed as amended we will need to contact the governors office and ask him to veto it.

It is a bad bill as amended.
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 11:39:05 PM EDT
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Have y'all contacted the folks in the above link?

Ask them to remove the amendments to the original bill, and explain why. Otherwise if this gets passed as amended we will need to contact the governors office and ask him to veto it.

It is a bad bill as amended.
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Have y'all contacted the folks in the above link?

Ask them to remove the amendments to the original bill, and explain why. Otherwise if this gets passed as amended we will need to contact the governors office and ask him to veto it.

It is a bad bill as amended.
Yep.  Phone or email, preferably both.  It doesn't take long to contact a few Senators.  

For reference, this is the letter I wrote a few days ago to the above committee members.  Feel free to borrow, adapt, or add things I missed.  


Senator <name>,

I am writing to you about HB1935, referred to your committee from the House.  This bill was originally intended to be a simple repeal of Texas' prohibition on knives deemed "illegal knives", specifically those with blades longer than 5.5 inches, swords, spears, or the poorly defined terms "dagger" and "bowie knife."  Repealing this outdated section of law has been a priority for knife-rights groups for many years, and remains an important goal in broadening Texas freedoms.  

However, I am very concerned by the amendment added to HB1935 by Representative Dutton in the House.  The amendment made this simple bill unnecessarily convoluted and created new offenses that could have broad unintended and undesirable consequences.  

These are a couple of the major issues with this bill as referred from the House:

1) The amendment adds prohibitions to 46.03 on possessing a "location-restricted knife" (a blade longer than 5.5 inches) in a list of places that mirror the places handguns are prohibited in 46.035.  This prohibited places list should not exist at all, but by choosing to add this prohibition to 46.03 instead of 46.02 or 46.035, the amendment does two undesirable things;

 - 1st, it sidesteps the non-applicability section 46.15(b)(6) that generally exempts holders of a License To Carry a Handgun from 46.02.  This has always been a key aspect of the carrying of large knives, reflecting the reasonable idea that if a person is able to legally carry a handgun, they should also be able to legally carry a knife, regardless of blade length.  This is how 46.02 and 46.15 currently operate, but this bill would break that logical tie.  

 - 2nd, the list of prohibited places in the amendment does NOT have an exemption similar to 46.035(i), which excludes from the prohibited places list amusement parks, hospitals, and churches which are not posted under sections 30.06 or 30.07.  The result is a trap where a person legally carrying a handgun in these locations cannot also carry a large knife, despite it being legal to carry both items elsewhere.  This would be most common in churches, which frequently do not post 30.06 or 30.07 signs.  I can't emphasize enough that THIS IS A NEW RESTRICTION THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY, and would make criminals out of otherwise law-abiding people who may not recognize this subtlety.  


2) The amendment creates a prohibition against minors (under 18) possessing a "location-restricted knife" unless on premises under his control or under direct supervision of a parent or legal guardian.  This provision would make it impossible for organizations like the Boy Scouts of America to teach safe usage of machetes or large knives for clearing brush, splitting wood, and other campcraft.  Likewise, teens who volunteer at church dinners or food pantries would be unable to use many common kitchen knives without becoming criminals.  This is a useless prohibition that does nothing to increase safety or prevent teen violence.  


HB1935 as referred is severely flawed and creates a convoluted web of new restrictions that undermine the original purpose of the bill, and create dangerous unintended traps for law-abiding good people.  I urge you to strip the bill of the Dutton amendment in committee and give the Senate a clean simple bill to repeal this useless section of Texas law.  Thank you for your consideration and dedication to Texas freedoms.  
Link Posted: 5/15/2017 11:10:48 PM EDT
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Excellent letter, Bob the Great.
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 1:09:21 PM EDT
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Welcome to Texas, where every rule is down in the weeds and you have to practically be a lawyer just to figure out if you're "allowed" to do anything.

It's nothing short of amazing that you are legally "allowed" to carry an AR-15 down the street, but you better leave that 6" knife back home, buster, or you'll be in BIG TROUBLE.

The answer, of course, is ever more complicated and numerous laws.
Link Posted: 5/20/2017 3:01:51 PM EDT
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HB 1935 reported favorably out of committee without amendments.  Recommended for "Local and Uncontested" calendar.  Placed on the regular order of business for Sunday, May 21, 2017.
Link Posted: 5/20/2017 9:11:34 PM EDT
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Well, that's unfortunate.  Just emailed Larry Taylor to make him aware of the issues with it.
Link Posted: 5/20/2017 10:28:16 PM EDT
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it says 2017-05-19SenateReported favorably w/o amendments


Does that mean that the amendments were stripped out ?
Link Posted: 5/21/2017 1:05:30 AM EDT
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No.  The amendment was added and passed in the House.  The Senate Criminal Justice Committee did not change what was sent to them from the House, so the nonsense is still in it.  

Text is here.
HB1935
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 11:04:19 AM EDT
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Ok, I saw that  HB 1935 passed the Senate yesterday and will be heading to the Governor for his signature.    

Sadly I also see that amendment about "locally restricted knives" remained in it.

If I am reading the amendment right "locally restricted" means a knife with a blade over 5.5 inches.   WTF?    Am I missing something here?
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