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Posted: 10/24/2014 8:15:44 PM EDT
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A PAL is a possession and acquisition license..anyone that wants to own a firearm needs one. You need to take the Canadian firearms safety course
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/safe_sur/cour-eng.htm The ATT is our Authorization To Transport. you only need that if you intend to buy, own restricted firearms (handguns and certain rifles like AR's) As for leaving your firearm at your property here..as long as it is stored with in the safe storage rules you are good. Whether or not you want to leave it in an unattended building is a different story. I'll have to do some research but you might be better off bring them with you and taking them home. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 8:26:33 AM EDT
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Thanks for the info... I will be researching myself. Mrs. Miami_JBT has been to Montreal before for business and loved it.
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Posted: 10/26/2014 7:30:51 PM EDT
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you can look in Ontario - look north of the Barrie area on www.mls.ca - you can find some nice land in the area of barrie and 2-4 hrs further north.
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Posted: 10/26/2014 8:02:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you can look in Ontario - look north of the Barrie area on www.mls.ca - you can find some nice land in the area of barrie and 2-4 hrs further north. Mark How are the firearm laws there? Does Ontario make it a pain in the ass to get a PAL and a ATT? I do want to bring up some rifles shotguns, and pistols.
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Posted: 10/26/2014 8:25:59 PM EDT
[#5]
the feds determine accessibility.
Canada Firearms Program page I would be more inclined to buy your guys up here. it'll be less of a pain to keep them here. If you plan on bringing them back, then you can likely do a temp export for hunting - read you need a hunting licence. Regarding restricted firearms - you Do Not need to belong to a club, however the administration of restricted firearms has been downloaded to the provincial Chief Firearms Offices. in Ontario, it is the OPP who acts as the CFO. THE ARE ANTI GUN - they will try and say you need to belong to a club even though you dont legally. Mark |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 8:27:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2014 10:46:58 PM EDT
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I have quite a large collection of MilSurp bolt actions and semiautomatics that would be legal in Camada. If everything turns out right I plan to keep them up there once I import them into the Canada. Also I have some pistols too that are on the restricted list.
I don't plan on taking them back amd forth between the US and Canada. Basically have my Canadian set and my American set. The ARs, AKs, NFA guns, and most handguns can stay in the US. The Bolt Actions, Lever Actions, some of my larger handguns, and some pumo action shotguns can stay in Canada. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 6:17:59 AM EDT
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Oh Gawd...he said Ontario..the liberal center of the universe......
 
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Posted: 10/27/2014 7:34:36 AM EDT
[#9]
better than More-ee-al (montreal) !
Remember a couple of things regarding handguns - - 25 and 32 cal - prohibited - barrels that are less than 105mm (4.13") - prohibited - handguns with barrels less than 105mm - prohibited - regardless of caliber, handgun mag capacities are limited to 10 - no exemptions Mark |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 8:12:25 AM EDT
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Part of the requirements set forth by Mrs. Miami_JBT are the following.
1. Near a major international airport 2. Indoor plumbing 3. Near a major city for modern conveniences 4. Indoor plumbing with electricity Everytime we see something in Alaska... it is too remote. We are city slickers from Tropical places like Miami and San Juan. As for the guns... Would some of these be legal? M1 Garand FN49 SKS Glock 17L (6 inch) S&W Model 686 (6inch) Rock Island Armory 1911 Colt Commander 1911 Ruger GP100 (4.2 inch barrel) Winchester SpeedPump 1300 Defender (18 inch barrel) Browning BPS High Capacity (18 inch barrel) |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 11:11:39 AM EDT
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The SAFN49 - if it is a converted auto - previously FA and now SA only, it'll be a prohib firearm. Your SKS will need to be limited to 5 rds only. if its a detachable mag converted one, then you can likely just buy pinned 5 rd mags up here. That said, a rivet pinning the DM will work for our laws. If not a DM version, then you will need to have a permanent block put in.
Airports changes things. I would search all the Canadian Airports and work an hour out from there. Mark |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 11:31:33 AM EDT
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The FN is an Egyptian contract... was never a full auto rifle.
 Ten round non detachable magazine in 8mm Mauser. Here are my two SKS carbines and Rasheed Carbine.  So they have to be pinned to five rounds? How does the M1 Garand get around the 5 round limit? |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 5:04:35 PM EDT
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the 10 rounds will need to be blocked permanently to accept 5. The common term would be 5.5 to allow the bolt to close.
The Garands are exempt as the Criminal Code exempted them. I suspect someone was able to articulate that to block an enbloc to 5 rounds would be detrimental to the functioning of the gun so they bought it and exempted it. I am just guessing here. Mark |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 6:27:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The FN is an Egyptian contract... was never a full auto rifle. Ten round non detachable magazine in 8mm Mauser. Here are my two SKS carbines and Rasheed Carbine. So they have to be pinned to five rounds? How does the M1 Garand get around the 5 round limit? Now to really confuse you...our center fire detachable mags must be pinned to 5 rounds (ar mags). However..you can buy a 10 round magazine for an ar and legally use it because..(wait for it)..it was manufactured for an ar pistol..and we can legally own 10 round mages for pistols... Just like this rifle is prohibited.  this one is restricted...  but this one..is non restricted...  still following me?  |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 7:41:19 PM EDT
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Striker, let him get his PAL before you make his head spin!!
Mark |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 8:19:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Striker, let him get his PAL before you make his head spin!! Mark  |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 8:29:54 PM EDT
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Oh, I understand firearm law. Been studying it a little bit. I used to be a a Federal Firearms License dealer and deal in NFA items and remember.... I'm a cop so understanding the law isn't an issue.
I figure the best course of action is to take as many of my non restricted firearms as possible and leave as many of the restricted and prohibited firearma in the states. My M1 Garand and Bolt guns are great self defense firearms as are my pump shotguns. My question, is there a restriction on ammunition capacity in bolt action and lever action rifles? Also there are no restrictions on a .22LR rifle correct? A Ruger 10/22 with a 50rd drum mag is legal in Canada from my understanding of the law. Would a Kel-Tec KSG be legal in Canada?  Everything is a pump except for the FN SLP. They're all over 26 inches in lengths with barrels over 18 inches. Storage can be in a safe unloaded with loaded magazines not inserted into the firearm and all handguns are on the restricted class except for .25 and .32 cal pistols. They're prohibited by law and those with a barrel length under 105mm. So a Smith & Wesson Model 686 with a 6 inch barrel is legal in Canada with a PAL and ATT for restricted firearms. Same with a 1911. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 8:56:27 PM EDT
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pump shotguns are GTG - you can have a 600 rd mag on it, smae with a Boltgun for the most part - except ones that are advertised as using AR-15 mags. The semi shotty has to have the mag plugged to 5 rds of CHAMBER LENGTH - ie 3 inch chamber plugged to accept 5 3 inch shells. The 10-22 mags are now in weird territory - RCMP decided that the mag for the BX ruger pistol makes the mags prohibited as they are over 10 rds. This isn't law yet and is the opinion of an analyst right now. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Hopefully uncommon sense prevails.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 10:05:37 PM EDT
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What about a Sig Sauer 522 Carbine and .22LR AR-15?
 The GemTech Suppressor would stay in the States.
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Posted: 10/28/2014 7:03:15 AM EDT
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you need one of these up here. This one belongs to a buddy. I refinished it in OD green gun kote for him. WingMaster with a 12.5" barrel.
 I have a Norc..same barrel lenght. Great truck gun and way to much fun to shoot. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 7:07:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you need one of these up here. This one belongs to a buddy. I refinished it in OD green gun kote for him. WingMaster with a 12.5" barrel. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=9917 I have a Norc..same barrel lenght. Great truck gun and way to much fun to shoot.  |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 10:31:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: you need one of these up here. This one belongs to a buddy. I refinished it in OD green gun kote for him. WingMaster with a 12.5" barrel. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=9917 I have a Norc..same barrel lenght. Great truck gun and way to much fun to shoot. DLask was making one with an 8" barrel on it..  |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 10:37:16 AM EDT
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And it's non restricted!!
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Posted: 10/28/2014 11:57:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And it's non restricted!! *cough* spinning head *cough* |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 12:13:20 PM EDT
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It is a pump action shotgun with an overall length that is greater than 26 inches. Legal under Canadian laws from my understanding.
Now explain to me the vehicle transport laws. I can keep that shotgun in the truck unloaded with a box of slugs next to it? Can the firearm be "unsecure" or must it be locked in one fashion or another such as cable lock or locked case?
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Posted: 10/28/2014 3:08:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is a pump action shotgun with an overall length that is greater than 26 inches. Legal under Canadian laws from my understanding. Now explain to me the vehicle transport laws. I can keep that shotgun in the truck unloaded with a box of slugs next to it? Can the firearm be "unsecure" or must it be locked in one fashion or another such as cable lock or locked case? has to be unloaded and out of site in an unattended vehicle. Must be unloaded during transportation. Does not have to be locked unless it is restricted. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 4:02:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now explain to me the vehicle transport laws. I can keep that shotgun in the truck unloaded with a box of slugs next to it? Can the firearm be "unsecure" or must it be locked in one fashion or another such as cable lock or locked case? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is a pump action shotgun with an overall length that is greater than 26 inches. Legal under Canadian laws from my understanding. Now explain to me the vehicle transport laws. I can keep that shotgun in the truck unloaded with a box of slugs next to it? Can the firearm be "unsecure" or must it be locked in one fashion or another such as cable lock or locked case? has to be unloaded and out of site in an unattended vehicle. Must be unloaded during transportation. Does not have to be locked unless it is restricted. So a Remington 870 under the seat unloaded with a box of slugs next to it is okay? Sweet! Any restrictions on where one can park a vehicle with a firearm? I figure there has be to some. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 4:39:28 PM EDT
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I just saw a video of a Canadian firearms instructor explaining unrestricted versus restricted and the manner of acquisition through the permitting system. I am sticking with unrestricted firearms and a PAL.
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Posted: 10/28/2014 6:34:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So a Remington 870 under the seat unloaded with a box of slugs next to it is okay? Sweet! Any restrictions on where one can park a vehicle with a firearm? I figure there has be to some. not that I'm aware of. I've never left a firearm in my vehicle unattended before though. As for the restricted PAL..it's a money grab to take the course...but believe it or not..it is easier to buy a restricted firearm now then it was when we had the FAC. If you bought one then..you had to have it shipped to your local police station..where it sat until you got it registered in your name. Then..the firearms officer at the police station would issue you a permit to take it home and another one to take it to the range. Now..seller contacts the firearms center, gives tehm the certificate # for the firearm and your PAL #. They provide him with a transaction #..he gives it to you...you call the firearms center, give them the #, they transfer the registration to you and give you a "number" that references a temp ATT to take it home. You can do all that by passing the phone back and forth between you and the seller. At gun shows they usually will have a firearms center rep there that does it all right there for you. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 6:41:50 PM EDT
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So basically keeping a truck/trunk gun in a car 24/7 is a no go then.
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Posted: 10/28/2014 8:07:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So basically keeping a truck/trunk gun in a car 24/7 is a no go then. no problem at all. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 8:42:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So basically keeping a truck/trunk gun in a car 24/7 is a no go then. no problem at all. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm Damn, Canada is looking better than New York, Massachusetts, and California everyday. I am actually excited about this. Seriously... sure it isn't as liberal as Florida is with firearms and I can't CCW but for a vacation property in a foreign country. Simply being able to do that puts a smile on my face.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:56:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Damn, Canada is looking better than New York, Massachusetts, and California everyday. I am actually excited about this. Seriously... sure it isn't as liberal as Florida is with firearms and I can't CCW but for a vacation property in a foreign country. Simply being able to do that puts a smile on my face. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So basically keeping a truck/trunk gun in a car 24/7 is a no go then. no problem at all. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm Damn, Canada is looking better than New York, Massachusetts, and California everyday. I am actually excited about this. Seriously... sure it isn't as liberal as Florida is with firearms and I can't CCW but for a vacation property in a foreign country. Simply being able to do that puts a smile on my face. once you get around to figuring out our silly,silly laws a, there's more than enough fun guns and freedom up here! 8.5-15" (including mag fed) 870s, 12.5" 10/22's, Chinese bull pups, $350 svt-40s, $500 m14 clones all without additional licensing! |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:55:19 AM EDT
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And remember..we have real beer up here!
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Posted: 10/29/2014 12:29:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And remember..we have real beer up here! What about Rum... I need that to survive.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 2:22:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about Rum... I need that to survive. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And remember..we have real beer up here! What about Rum... I need that to survive. the finest of rum..and whiskey.. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 10:35:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about Rum... I need that to survive. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And remember..we have real beer up here! What about Rum... I need that to survive.   |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 10:50:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And remember..we have real beer up here! What about Rum... I need that to survive. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 7:48:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And remember..we have real beer up here! What about Rum... I need that to survive. Look, as long as it is clear rum and I can make Cuba Libres and Mojitos life is good.  I could be frozen stiff up to my neck in snow.... but I'm still drinking my drinks of "Mi Patria".   |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 6:36:17 PM EDT
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Edsr bought me a mojito when he took us to a Cuban restaurant in Orlando..
Very good...what are your thoughts on dark rum? |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 7:06:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edsr bought me a mojito when he took us to a Cuban restaurant in Orlando.. Very good...what are your thoughts on dark rum? I like El Dorado 15, but it's not available in Ohio  I have to buy it in New York... It's available at the LCBO, but damn it's expensive up there. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 7:20:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edsr bought me a mojito when he took us to a Cuban restaurant in Orlando.. Very good...what are your thoughts on dark rum? By chance was the restaurant in Orlando named "Bongos Cuban Cafe"?  Very good restaurant.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:07:31 PM EDT
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We used to have a brand here called Black Diamond..or as we called it in my infantry unit..dark and dirty..but they don't make it anymoe.
If I'm drinking rum.. It's this  |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:45:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We used to have a brand here called Black Diamond..or as we called it in my infantry unit..dark and dirty..but they don't make it anymoe. If I'm drinking rum.. It's this http://www.rum.cz/galery/nam/ca/palliser/img/ca139.jpg |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 10:52:02 AM EDT
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Hey Canucks!
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Posted: 11/2/2014 11:23:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2014 12:15:35 PM EDT
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Cool!
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Posted: 11/3/2014 2:59:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI found a new unfired one for sale... |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 3:00:19 PM EDT
[#49]
If you want something cool property wise, you can purchase islands off the coast of BC.
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Posted: 11/8/2014 12:05:58 AM EDT
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God, don't buy anything in Ontario; but if you're hell-bent on living in that Liberal shithole, look at Kenora. It's close to Winnipeg and meets all of your other criteria.
Alberta is THE place to live. There are tons of little towns around Calgary or Edmonton that don't cost a ton but are still "out of the way". |
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