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Posted: 10/31/2016 5:41:20 PM EDT
Still undecided on who I am voting for for these two races. Two many damn choices.
Tell me who you are voting for and why. Or tell me who you are not voting for and why. Don't bother if you are voting Democrat. Don't want to hear your opinions. |
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Still undecided on who I am voting for for these two races. Two many damn choices. Tell me who you are voting for and why. Or tell me who you are not voting for and why. Don't bother if you are voting Democrat. Don't want to hear your opinions. View Quote I like your style. My favorite is Dr C. Boustany for senate. He's done quite a bit on the various trade agreements to make sure ag and especially rice, doesn't get sold out for other industries. He's also a real live constitutional conservative and we'll need as much of that as possible to balance Hillary, God forbid she wins, and to some extent Trump, if he wins, God willing. |
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I was thinking of Kennedy, but I don't know a whole lot about any of them. I need to download a ballot and do some research. Any important amendments we need to look out for this time?
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Boustany is just this side of being a RINO. His voting record is split right up the middle between conservative and democrap support. He's a flipflopper at the best of times.
Regrettably, Louisiana's choices for candidates are generally lukewarm at best. https://www.conservativereview.com/scorecard?MyMembers=false&state=LA&sort=Score&order=Descending&page=1&pageSize=50 The only one that I'd even consider as a possible guy to support is Fleming. He isn't in my area though, so fat lot of good that'll do. I thought he was running for house, he's senate! I like this guy. The site I linked, I can't say 100% they're trustworthy, but they do provide sources for the vote counts that make up the overall ratings. So, it at least seems legit. |
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I was thinking of Kennedy, but I don't know a whole lot about any of them. I need to download a ballot and do some research. Any important amendments we need to look out for this time? View Quote For the amendments, I was emailed this today. https://gallery.mailchimp.com/4a55b70781fc3c9a5875657f6/files/ConservativesVotersGuide2016.01.pdf If the link does work, I can put up screen shots. For Distract 1 I was going to vote Mike Johnson for congress. And John Flemming for Senate |
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Thanks. Got that printed out now. SOS's sample ballot shows I only get to vote for D's in my congressional district |
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Can you get banned for disagreeing with a mod?
I think you're wrong about Boustany, he's been one of the good guys in the House and has been a strong advocate for La. While I think Kennedy, Fleming, or even Manes would make a great Senator, they will all have a big learning curve to go thru, Boustany has been there, and while that may be a negative to some voters this year, I believe its critical to have solid, experienced, conservative politicians in the Legislative branch to help or counteract the new president, depending on who wins. |
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Can you get banned for disagreeing with a mod? I think you're wrong about Boustany, he's been one of the good guys in the House and has been a strong advocate for La. While I think Kennedy, Fleming, or even Manes would make a great Senator, they will all have a big learning curve to go thru, Boustany has been there, and while that may be a negative to some voters this year, I believe its critical to have solid, experienced, conservative politicians in the Legislative branch to help or counteract the new president, depending on who wins. View Quote Click the link, look at his voting record. It's pretty sad. Facts > Opinion. |
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I clicked the link and what I got was an opinion on his voting record. Your website is just another opinion. My opinion>their opinion ETA I did notice Boustany has a 100% on 2A votes from the link, so maybe they're not all wrong View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Facts > Opinion. I clicked the link and what I got was an opinion on his voting record. Your website is just another opinion. My opinion>their opinion ETA I did notice Boustany has a 100% on 2A votes from the link, so maybe they're not all wrong There's one thing you seem to have missed. Their rating isn't an opinion. It's based on actual voting history, with source links to back it up. Yes, Boustany is pro 2A, but he's pretty bad on nearly everything else. Also, the 100% rating is based on one 2A related vote he participated in. He seems to have not shown up for many, many more. |
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He seems to have not shown up for many, many more View Quote Wrong again, from your website, "Missed votes - 1" But seriously, the subject I feel most qualifies on is ag and the way Boustany is scored on ag is just not right. Your supposed conservative website seems to want the Farm Bill to be a social program. The Farm Bill is a lot more than subsidies to wealthy farmers, and why should being successful put a business at an economic disadvantage? I didn't look into how they scored Boustany on other issues(its late I'm going to bed) but my faith in that website is pretty low. |
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Wrong again, from your website, "Missed votes - 1" But seriously, the subject I feel most qualifies on is ag and the way Boustany is scored on ag is just not right. Your supposed conservative website seems to want the Farm Bill to be a social program. The Farm Bill is a lot more than subsidies to wealthy farmers, and why should being successful put a business at an economic disadvantage? I didn't look into how they scored Boustany on other issues(its late I'm going to bed) but my faith in that website is pretty low. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
He seems to have not shown up for many, many more Wrong again, from your website, "Missed votes - 1" But seriously, the subject I feel most qualifies on is ag and the way Boustany is scored on ag is just not right. Your supposed conservative website seems to want the Farm Bill to be a social program. The Farm Bill is a lot more than subsidies to wealthy farmers, and why should being successful put a business at an economic disadvantage? I didn't look into how they scored Boustany on other issues(its late I'm going to bed) but my faith in that website is pretty low. The reason I say he must have missed more is either one of two things, given that there's definitely been more one gun related vote during his time in office 1) he didn't show up, and they for whatever reason have no record of this 2) he did show up, and they for whatever reason have no record of this So, either their missed votes counter is off, or their vote tracking isn't absolute, or some combination of both. You keep saying my website. I don't own it, run it, and I'm not affiliated with it in any way. They DO provide source links for every vote they tally, so given the information that presents itself, my interpretation of the data stands. Boustany is a pretty lukewarm conservative at best. Your interpretation may differ, and that's perfectly OK. |
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I was thinking of Kennedy, but I don't know a whole lot about any of them. I need to download a ballot and do some research. Any important amendments we need to look out for this time? View Quote Kennedy is a former Dem. I don't trust him to not fuck us. ETA: I think I'm voting Fleming FWIW, but if it goes to runoff, I will vote the best option at that time. |
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For the amendments, I was emailed this today. https://gallery.mailchimp.com/4a55b70781fc3c9a5875657f6/files/ConservativesVotersGuide2016.01.pdf If the link does work, I can put up screen shots. For Distract 1 I was going to vote Mike Johnson for congress. And John Flemming for Senate View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was thinking of Kennedy, but I don't know a whole lot about any of them. I need to download a ballot and do some research. Any important amendments we need to look out for this time? For the amendments, I was emailed this today. https://gallery.mailchimp.com/4a55b70781fc3c9a5875657f6/files/ConservativesVotersGuide2016.01.pdf If the link does work, I can put up screen shots. For Distract 1 I was going to vote Mike Johnson for congress. And John Flemming for Senate Alternatively, when I was researching this several days ago, I ran across this article: https://thehayride.com/2016/10/here-are-the-constitutional-amendments-louisiana-voters-have-to-decide-on-in-november-and-our-suggestions-on-them/ I mostly agree with their conclusions. |
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Alternatively, when I was researching this several days ago, I ran across this article: https://thehayride.com/2016/10/here-are-the-constitutional-amendments-louisiana-voters-have-to-decide-on-in-november-and-our-suggestions-on-them/ I mostly agree with their conclusions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was thinking of Kennedy, but I don't know a whole lot about any of them. I need to download a ballot and do some research. Any important amendments we need to look out for this time? For the amendments, I was emailed this today. https://gallery.mailchimp.com/4a55b70781fc3c9a5875657f6/files/ConservativesVotersGuide2016.01.pdf If the link does work, I can put up screen shots. For Distract 1 I was going to vote Mike Johnson for congress. And John Flemming for Senate Alternatively, when I was researching this several days ago, I ran across this article: https://thehayride.com/2016/10/here-are-the-constitutional-amendments-louisiana-voters-have-to-decide-on-in-november-and-our-suggestions-on-them/ I mostly agree with their conclusions. Thanks for the link, I like thehayride.com Now I do not know what on the amendments.. Damn |
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Alternatively, when I was researching this several days ago, I ran across this article: https://thehayride.com/2016/10/here-are-the-constitutional-amendments-louisiana-voters-have-to-decide-on-in-november-and-our-suggestions-on-them/ I mostly agree with their conclusions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was thinking of Kennedy, but I don't know a whole lot about any of them. I need to download a ballot and do some research. Any important amendments we need to look out for this time? For the amendments, I was emailed this today. https://gallery.mailchimp.com/4a55b70781fc3c9a5875657f6/files/ConservativesVotersGuide2016.01.pdf If the link does work, I can put up screen shots. For Distract 1 I was going to vote Mike Johnson for congress. And John Flemming for Senate Alternatively, when I was researching this several days ago, I ran across this article: https://thehayride.com/2016/10/here-are-the-constitutional-amendments-louisiana-voters-have-to-decide-on-in-november-and-our-suggestions-on-them/ I mostly agree with their conclusions. I agree with their conclusions. 2 and 6 will get a yes vote from me. A further thought on 4, from a police officer: Yeah, sure, it would be nice for the missus to have that if I die in the line of duty, like it would be for the spouse of a firefighter or a service---person, I guess I'm supposed to say. But like the Hayride says, individual jurisdictions can make decisions to help out specific cases, particularly hard luck cases. Carving out an exemption for a small class of people is never a good idea, and not just in and of itself. Let's say 4 passes. Great, OK, it ain't gonna break the bank, so what. No biggie, right? Well, a few years down the road some Marine, firefighter, or LEO gets crippled in the line of duty, but without enough time in service for disability retirement, and it ends up being a high profile event. What then? Maybe we have another amendment to include those folks who are in *that* predicament. Or, say, what if linemen point out the dangers of their job, and they want in as well, and a legislator gets yet another amendment on the ballot? What about poultry workers, who have one of the most dangerous jobs in the country as far as work related illness and death? Another amendment. What about teachers, maybe not quite so dangerous, but generally low pay, and they educate our children! That sort of thing needs to be nipped in the bud---maybe this is hyperbole, and would never happen, but remember, prior to the austerity budget in '11 or '12, retirement age in Greece was 65 for regular retirement, and 50 for early retirement for certain "dangerous or stressful occupations." (It's now 67/58.) The "dangerous or stressful occupations" began with police, firefighters, and prison workers when early retirement ages were first started. By the time of the '11 or '12 budget, the number of occupations so designated had swelled immensely as people lobbied to get their occupation added to the list---hairdressers, bakers, masseurs, trombonists, sax players, pianists, and a ton of others just as ridiculous were all eligible for early retirement. |
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Since I'm guessing this is now our defacto election thread, anyone with any ideas for the 2nd district? My choices are as follows: Kenneth Cutno Melvin Holden Cedric Richmond A cursory glance at the set looks like welfare supports and anti-2a across the board :/ |
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Since I'm guessing this is now our defacto election thread, anyone with any ideas for the 2nd district? My choices are as follows: Kenneth Cutno Melvin Holden Cedric Richmond A cursory glance at the set looks like welfare supports and anti-2a across the board :/ View Quote No suggestions (I'm weirdly gerrymandered into the 1st, despite being in New Orleans, and appearing to be in the footprint of the map of the 2nd,) beyond my usual dislike of re-electing incumbents. (Even though Mr. Richmond is a nice enough guy in person, our political differences aside, I still would not vote to re-elect him simply because of the old adage about politicians, diapers, and the need for frequent changing of same.) |
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I agree with their conclusions. 2 and 6 will get a yes vote from me. A further thought on 4, from a police officer: Yeah, sure, it would be nice for the missus to have that if I die in the line of duty, like it would be for the spouse of a firefighter or a service---person, I guess I'm supposed to say. But like the Hayride says, individual jurisdictions can make decisions to help out specific cases, particularly hard luck cases. Carving out an exemption for a small class of people is never a good idea, and not just in and of itself. Let's say 4 passes. Great, OK, it ain't gonna break the bank, so what. No biggie, right? Well, a few years down the road some Marine, firefighter, or LEO gets crippled in the line of duty, but without enough time in service for disability retirement, and it ends up being a high profile event. What then? Maybe we have another amendment to include those folks who are in *that* predicament. Or, say, what if linemen point out the dangers of their job, and they want in as well, and a legislator gets yet another amendment on the ballot? What about poultry workers, who have one of the most dangerous jobs in the country as far as work related illness and death? Another amendment. What about teachers, maybe not quite so dangerous, but generally low pay, and they educate our children! That sort of thing needs to be nipped in the bud---maybe this is hyperbole, and would never happen, but remember, prior to the austerity budget in '11 or '12, retirement age in Greece was 65 for regular retirement, and 50 for early retirement for certain "dangerous or stressful occupations." (It's now 67/58.) The "dangerous or stressful occupations" began with police, firefighters, and prison workers when early retirement ages were first started. By the time of the '11 or '12 budget, the number of occupations so designated had swelled immensely as people lobbied to get their occupation added to the list---hairdressers, bakers, masseurs, trombonists, sax players, pianists, and a ton of others just as ridiculous were all eligible for early retirement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was thinking of Kennedy, but I don't know a whole lot about any of them. I need to download a ballot and do some research. Any important amendments we need to look out for this time? For the amendments, I was emailed this today. https://gallery.mailchimp.com/4a55b70781fc3c9a5875657f6/files/ConservativesVotersGuide2016.01.pdf If the link does work, I can put up screen shots. For Distract 1 I was going to vote Mike Johnson for congress. And John Flemming for Senate Alternatively, when I was researching this several days ago, I ran across this article: https://thehayride.com/2016/10/here-are-the-constitutional-amendments-louisiana-voters-have-to-decide-on-in-november-and-our-suggestions-on-them/ I mostly agree with their conclusions. I agree with their conclusions. 2 and 6 will get a yes vote from me. A further thought on 4, from a police officer: Yeah, sure, it would be nice for the missus to have that if I die in the line of duty, like it would be for the spouse of a firefighter or a service---person, I guess I'm supposed to say. But like the Hayride says, individual jurisdictions can make decisions to help out specific cases, particularly hard luck cases. Carving out an exemption for a small class of people is never a good idea, and not just in and of itself. Let's say 4 passes. Great, OK, it ain't gonna break the bank, so what. No biggie, right? Well, a few years down the road some Marine, firefighter, or LEO gets crippled in the line of duty, but without enough time in service for disability retirement, and it ends up being a high profile event. What then? Maybe we have another amendment to include those folks who are in *that* predicament. Or, say, what if linemen point out the dangers of their job, and they want in as well, and a legislator gets yet another amendment on the ballot? What about poultry workers, who have one of the most dangerous jobs in the country as far as work related illness and death? Another amendment. What about teachers, maybe not quite so dangerous, but generally low pay, and they educate our children! That sort of thing needs to be nipped in the bud---maybe this is hyperbole, and would never happen, but remember, prior to the austerity budget in '11 or '12, retirement age in Greece was 65 for regular retirement, and 50 for early retirement for certain "dangerous or stressful occupations." (It's now 67/58.) The "dangerous or stressful occupations" began with police, firefighters, and prison workers when early retirement ages were first started. By the time of the '11 or '12 budget, the number of occupations so designated had swelled immensely as people lobbied to get their occupation added to the list---hairdressers, bakers, masseurs, trombonists, sax players, pianists, and a ton of others just as ridiculous were all eligible for early retirement. My I ask why YES on 2 I was thinking that would be a no for me. As it would the governor the power to put people on the board for every college in the state. Kind of sounds like a kick back job to. And giving to much power to the governor. And like you said that might come back to bite us later down the road. But please tell me what you think? Because I am not sure which way to go. |
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My I ask why YES on 2 I was thinking that would be a no for me. As it would the governor the power to put people on the board for every college in the state. Kind of sounds like a kick back job to. And giving to much power to the governor. And like you said that might come back to bite us later down the road. But please tell me what you think? Because I am not sure which way to go. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was thinking of Kennedy, but I don't know a whole lot about any of them. I need to download a ballot and do some research. Any important amendments we need to look out for this time? For the amendments, I was emailed this today. https://gallery.mailchimp.com/4a55b70781fc3c9a5875657f6/files/ConservativesVotersGuide2016.01.pdf If the link does work, I can put up screen shots. For Distract 1 I was going to vote Mike Johnson for congress. And John Flemming for Senate Alternatively, when I was researching this several days ago, I ran across this article: https://thehayride.com/2016/10/here-are-the-constitutional-amendments-louisiana-voters-have-to-decide-on-in-november-and-our-suggestions-on-them/ I mostly agree with their conclusions. I agree with their conclusions. 2 and 6 will get a yes vote from me. A further thought on 4, from a police officer: Yeah, sure, it would be nice for the missus to have that if I die in the line of duty, like it would be for the spouse of a firefighter or a service---person, I guess I'm supposed to say. But like the Hayride says, individual jurisdictions can make decisions to help out specific cases, particularly hard luck cases. Carving out an exemption for a small class of people is never a good idea, and not just in and of itself. Let's say 4 passes. Great, OK, it ain't gonna break the bank, so what. No biggie, right? Well, a few years down the road some Marine, firefighter, or LEO gets crippled in the line of duty, but without enough time in service for disability retirement, and it ends up being a high profile event. What then? Maybe we have another amendment to include those folks who are in *that* predicament. Or, say, what if linemen point out the dangers of their job, and they want in as well, and a legislator gets yet another amendment on the ballot? What about poultry workers, who have one of the most dangerous jobs in the country as far as work related illness and death? Another amendment. What about teachers, maybe not quite so dangerous, but generally low pay, and they educate our children! That sort of thing needs to be nipped in the bud---maybe this is hyperbole, and would never happen, but remember, prior to the austerity budget in '11 or '12, retirement age in Greece was 65 for regular retirement, and 50 for early retirement for certain "dangerous or stressful occupations." (It's now 67/58.) The "dangerous or stressful occupations" began with police, firefighters, and prison workers when early retirement ages were first started. By the time of the '11 or '12 budget, the number of occupations so designated had swelled immensely as people lobbied to get their occupation added to the list---hairdressers, bakers, masseurs, trombonists, sax players, pianists, and a ton of others just as ridiculous were all eligible for early retirement. My I ask why YES on 2 I was thinking that would be a no for me. As it would the governor the power to put people on the board for every college in the state. Kind of sounds like a kick back job to. And giving to much power to the governor. And like you said that might come back to bite us later down the road. But please tell me what you think? Because I am not sure which way to go. Well, like I said, I basically agree with the Hayride, and find it ludicrous that tuition and fees are set by the legislature. They should be set by the folks who oversee the schools. As it stands, the legislature (which, like it or not, is an LSU fan club,) does this, and having it removed so much from people much more direct and better knowledge is not a good idea in my book. YMMV, of course, and I'm pretty sure that what's going to happen is 2 and 6 are gonna get shot down, and the ones I don't like will be passed. My prediction of the general thought process: 1: "Yeah! We need to change this, 'cause there may be voter fraud or something otherwise!" 2: "No way! The way it's always been is fine!" 3: "Heck yeah! Them rich businesses don't need no tax breaks!" 4: "Yeah, we gotta look out for our servicemen, firefighters and cops!" 5: "Yeah, an extra pot of sacred money sounds great!" 6: "Aw heck no! No way do any sacred pots of money in my state get tapped for other reasons! We voted those things in for some very good reasons I can't remember!" |
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Agree on amendment 4. Don't get me wrong, I won't be upset if it passed, but the way that the ease to which our state constitution is continuously amended to add specific exemptions and special privledges just bloats it. The state legislature tends to kick things out to the public as an amendment when they feel it has a better chance to pass there.
Legislators that are opposed don't want to go on record as being "anti veteran/police/special interest" so they'll vote to allow it on the ballot as a means to wash their hands of it. |
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Kennedy is a former Dem. I don't trust him to not fuck us. ETA: I think I'm voting Fleming FWIW, but if it goes to runoff, I will vote the best option at that time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was thinking of Kennedy, but I don't know a whole lot about any of them. I need to download a ballot and do some research. Any important amendments we need to look out for this time? Kennedy is a former Dem. I don't trust him to not fuck us. ETA: I think I'm voting Fleming FWIW, but if it goes to runoff, I will vote the best option at that time. Is that why Kennedy is running as "conservative"? I see the ads, and it seemed weird he wasn't coming out and saying Republican or Democrat. 3rd party? |
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He shows up as "Republican" on the LA Secretary of State's sample ballot. But yes, I'm sure he's doing his best to shy away from that. http://i.imgur.com/5D8C8Ph.png View Quote Good God, that's a lot of choices! Maybe I'll just vote for a guy named "Crawdaddy". Senator Crawdaddy sounds very regal. |
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Good God, that's a lot of choices! Maybe I'll just vote for a guy named "Crawdaddy". Senator Crawdaddy sounds very regal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He shows up as "Republican" on the LA Secretary of State's sample ballot. But yes, I'm sure he's doing his best to shy away from that. http://i.imgur.com/5D8C8Ph.png Good God, that's a lot of choices! Maybe I'll just vote for a guy named "Crawdaddy". Senator Crawdaddy sounds very regal. I'm in for that. Sounds like he'd do a fine job with a name like that. |
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Trump pulled it off.
I'm concerned that our senatorial race looks to have a runoff between Kennedy and Campbell. Gross |
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Good deal on the Trump victory. As for the senate, I did switch my vote to flemming, but I guess that didn't work out. |
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Does La always do this where their seats arent filled without runoffs/?
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The winner has to get 50% of the votes to win outright. And this practically never happens Sometimes it does though. Back an election or two ago, the sheriff's race in Jeff Davis parish had a ton of guys running. Everybody figured there would be a run off. Nope, Sheriff Ivy Woods won it outright. I thought that was pretty interesting. |
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It depends. Garret Graves easily won reelection for my district with six people on the ballot, but he is generally well liked around here.
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Quoted: It depends. Garret Graves easily won reelection for my district with six people on the ballot, but he is generally well liked around here. However, a senate race with 24 names and about 4 or 5 legit contenders will always result in a runoff here. The reason for the runoff is because we can have so many names on the initial ballots here. View Quote Plus it takes too damn long to search through that list to find my candidate since the order of the candidates seems to have no rhyme or reason to it. Well, except for the presidential election... For some reason, the Democrat always seems to get listed first... |
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Am seeing where Clay Higgins is getting sued by one of his ex-wives for $100K in child support.
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Getting back to the senate run off, Kennedy makes me take Pepto and Campbell is holding a shotgun in the TV ad, but that does not make me comfortable, Biden told us to get a shotgun, he was gong after the ARs...
I think Kennedy is a joke, flipper, once a democrap rat, his cliches are comical....trust him as much as I do Hildabeast So who do we vote for? Who do you trust? |
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Getting back to the senate run off, Kennedy makes me take Pepto and Campbell is holding a shotgun in the TV ad, but that does not make me comfortable, Biden told us to get a shotgun, he was gong after the ARs... I think Kennedy is a joke, flipper, once a democrap rat, his cliches are comical....trust him as much as I do Hildabeast So who do we vote for? Who do you trust? View Quote If this is the criteria you look for, you've got a lot of learning to do. None of them can be trusted. Not one single politician. Every single one of them will fuck you over if they see a profit in it. |
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Quoted: Getting back to the senate run off, Kennedy makes me take Pepto and Campbell is holding a shotgun in the TV ad, but that does not make me comfortable, Biden told us to get a shotgun, he was gong after the ARs... I think Kennedy is a joke, flipper, once a democrap rat, his cliches are comical....trust him as much as I do Hildabeast So who do we vote for? Who do you trust? View Quote Both Angelle and Kennedy are party flippers. We managed to put RINOS in the damn runoff. |
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Getting back to the senate run off, Kennedy makes me take Pepto and Campbell is holding a shotgun in the TV ad, but that does not make me comfortable, Biden told us to get a shotgun, he was gong after the ARs... I think Kennedy is a joke, flipper, once a democrap rat, his cliches are comical....trust him as much as I do Hildabeast So who do we vote for? Who do you trust? If this is the criteria you look for, you've got a lot of learning to do. None of them can be trusted. Not one single politician. Every single one of them will fuck you over if they see a profit in it. Zack, Please do not patronize me, you don't know who I am, what I have learned over the many, many years....by definition you walk into that booth you pull a lever, by doing that you are trusting one over the other. Simple as that....or dont vote |
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