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Posted: 4/13/2015 11:20:43 AM EDT
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The reason I ask is that in reading over the requirements it seems like a NJ FPID should technically satisfy their requirement to have a "LICENSE, PERMIT, OR SIMILAR DOCUMENT TO CARRY A FIREARM" from your home state. Your FPID allows you to carry certain firearms (long guns) in public under certain circumstances. This argument would be especially good for people who have an old FPID that clearly states on it that it's valid for "purchase and carry" of long guns. You're stretching it there Matt.  Maybe some old timer can test the waters. NJJG or LD?
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Posted: 4/13/2015 11:58:22 AM EDT
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You're stretching it there Matt. Maybe some old timer can test the waters. NJJG or LD?Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The reason I ask is that in reading over the requirements it seems like a NJ FPID should technically satisfy their requirement to have a "LICENSE, PERMIT, OR SIMILAR DOCUMENT TO CARRY A FIREARM" from your home state. Your FPID allows you to carry certain firearms (long guns) in public under certain circumstances. This argument would be especially good for people who have an old FPID that clearly states on it that it's valid for "purchase and carry" of long guns. You're stretching it there Matt. Maybe some old timer can test the waters. NJJG or LD?I like my bunghole just the way it is thank you..... |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 1:43:55 PM EDT
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The reason I ask is that in reading over the requirements it seems like a NJ FPID should technically satisfy their requirement to have a "LICENSE, PERMIT, OR SIMILAR DOCUMENT TO CARRY A FIREARM" from your home state. Remember that in the PA UFA, the section involving licensing excludes rifles and shotguns from the definition of "firearm". Your home state license, permit, or similar document would need to grant the ability to carry a "firearm" as it is defined within the PA UFA. |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 1:54:54 PM EDT
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Remember that in the PA UFA, the section involving licensing excludes rifles and shotguns from the definition of "firearm". Your home state license, permit, or similar document would need to grant the ability to carry a "firearm" as it is defined within the PA UFA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The reason I ask is that in reading over the requirements it seems like a NJ FPID should technically satisfy their requirement to have a "LICENSE, PERMIT, OR SIMILAR DOCUMENT TO CARRY A FIREARM" from your home state. Remember that in the PA UFA, the section involving licensing excludes rifles and shotguns from the definition of "firearm". Your home state license, permit, or similar document would need to grant the ability to carry a "firearm" as it is defined within the PA UFA. True, although certain subsections of UFA also include any weapon designed to "expel any projectile by the action of an explosive" in the definition of a firearm. §6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.
... (e) Definitions.— (1) For purposes of subsection (b)(3), (4), (5), (7) and (8), the term "firearm" shall include any weapon which is designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive or the frame or receiver of the weapon. ... |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 9:30:34 AM EDT
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I'm far from an SME on this but:
From what I understand....Sheriff Denny Nau was the only sherriff in Pa that was considering NJFID as sufficient proof for an PA CCW. THEN.... the NJ attorney general (Holder IIRC) stepped in and said NO to this interpretation. Has anything changed/challenged this to challenge the interpretation/law? Or is it just that there's a different NJAG? |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 4:18:31 PM EDT
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I'm far from an SME on this but: From what I understand....Sheriff Denny Nau was the only sherriff in Pa that was considering NJFID as sufficient proof for an PA CCW. THEN.... the NJ attorney general (Holder IIRC) stepped in and said NO to this interpretation. Has anything changed/challenged this to challenge the interpretation/law? Or is it just that there's a different NJAG? Question- does it matter what a NJAG says about a PA law? If PA sees the NJFID as sufficient, then what power does someone from NJ have to change it? I used to have a PA CCW but it expired last fall. I had used my MA LTC to get it before I switched to a NJ resident. I was going to renew it but I don't think you can apply by mail anymore. It all has to be done in person and I haven't been able to get over to that part of PA yet. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 5:39:18 PM EDT
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Question- does it matter what a NJAG says about a PA law? If PA sees the NJFID as sufficient, then what power does someone from NJ have to change it? I used to have a PA CCW but it expired last fall. I had used my MA LTC to get it before I switched to a NJ resident. I was going to renew it but I don't think you can apply by mail anymore. It all has to be done in person and I haven't been able to get over to that part of PA yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm far from an SME on this but: From what I understand....Sheriff Denny Nau was the only sherriff in Pa that was considering NJFID as sufficient proof for an PA CCW. THEN.... the NJ attorney general (Holder IIRC) stepped in and said NO to this interpretation. Has anything changed/challenged this to challenge the interpretation/law? Or is it just that there's a different NJAG? Question- does it matter what a NJAG says about a PA law? If PA sees the NJFID as sufficient, then what power does someone from NJ have to change it? I used to have a PA CCW but it expired last fall. I had used my MA LTC to get it before I switched to a NJ resident. I was going to renew it but I don't think you can apply by mail anymore. It all has to be done in person and I haven't been able to get over to that part of PA yet. IMO none, but you know how politics works. The power of persuasion & all that shit. IDK if this was fact, I'm looking for confirmation...and why it appears to have apparently changed.....:D |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 7:24:35 AM EDT
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I was able to do it as a NJ resident ONLY many moons ago because at that time I had a NJ carry permit for Armored car work only.
I went through York PA. Once it expired, I no longer had a NJ permit to carry due to a career change so I did not try to renew it. Just an fyi... RW3 |
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