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Posted: 3/31/2012 7:27:56 PM EST
I'm moving back to the PRNJ from VA due to work, and I'm not sure if my Ruger 10 22 with a strikeforce folding stock is legal. I have 10 round magazines instead of the typical 30, and it lacks a flash hider. Will I be able to keep my plinker in its current configuration (specifically referring to the stock)?
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Link Posted: 3/31/2012 7:47:20 PM EST
We have debated this before and were split on whether a .22LR can be substantially identical to any of the firearms identified as "assault" weapons. IMHO, there is a valid argument that they do satisfy the definition and it is not worth the risk or the legal costs. Just put a fixed stock on it and stick the collapsible stock in a box for when you move back to free territory.
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Link Posted: 4/1/2012 12:41:18 AM EST
A semi-automatic firearm should be considered to be "substantially identical", that is, identical in all material respects,to a named assault weapon if it meets the below listed criteria:

A semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following:

1. a folding stock or telescoping stock
2. a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon
3. a bayonet mount
4. a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor
5. a grenade launcher

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Link Posted: 4/1/2012 1:57:01 AM EST
If you still have the original stock, I would just pop it back on to be on the safe side. From what I understand the folding and telescoping stocks automatically turn a 10/22 into a weapon of mass destruction in Nazi Jersey,..
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Link Posted: 4/1/2012 9:41:14 AM EST
Allow me to clarify:

Perfectly legal NJ rifle:


Dangerous, illegal assault firearm:
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Link Posted: 4/1/2012 1:22:37 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/2/2012 7:31:23 AM EST
So sad but true
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Link Posted: 4/2/2012 7:49:54 AM EST
Thanks for the advice, I'll have to bend over and put the full stock back on for the time being.
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Link Posted: 4/2/2012 8:14:33 AM EST
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I think if you keep the folding stock you can make the firearm illegal. You are breaking the law.
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Link Posted: 4/2/2012 9:09:34 PM EST


keep pointing that out and soon both will be illegal nj assault weapons
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Link Posted: 4/3/2012 1:32:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/3/2012 9:03:49 AM EST by dontalo]
Originally Posted By libra8:
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I think if you keep the folding stock you can make the firearm illegal. You are breaking the law.


If they every searched your house, the argument could be made. However, if the stock was in a box in the basement, it would be hard to argue that they components could be readily assembled.

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Link Posted: 4/3/2012 5:03:00 AM EST
Originally Posted By dontalo:
Originally Posted By libra8:
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I think if you keep the folding stock you can make the firearm illegal. You are breaking the law.


If they every searched your house, the argument could be made. However, if the stock was in a box in the basement, it would be hard to argue that they components could be readily assembled.


I have a friend in VA with whom I could leave the stock until my liberation, just to err on the side of caution.

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