Damn, I was just asking out of curiosity!
I wasn't trying to say anything about brandstad.

Oh I haven't stopped at all. I've passed info onto others to contact them and have placed it on Facebook.

Joe

i know.  i was throwing that out there for everyone to consider.  that's what hogg is doing - he's spinning us...

Just so you know guys, the new poster "JohnReed" is our IFC board chairman and one of our top lobbyists up at the capitol.  He's far more shrewd and plugged in that i'll ever be, so when he posts up something, it is incumbent on you to read it!

THANKS!

in case you guys didn't get to read this, you'd better.  this is some of the best information i've seen in a long time and really helps put things into perspective.  from IFC:

A Little Straight Talk

Dear Members,

"Anti-gun" is a term that gets thrown around a lot these days. The Iowa House leadership is supposedly anti-gun. The Iowa Senate leadership is supposedly anti-gun. All but maybe 3 or 4 members of the entire Iowa General Assembly are supposedly anti-gun. Heck, most every pro-gun group in the state is supposedly anti-gun! Whoa! We know that's not the case. So what's really going on? What's the truth?

It's a matter of style applied to goals. IFC has worked diligently with Second Amendment advocates, including the NRA, to always insist that the ball move forward, down the field, and never backward. However, our playbook contains many different plays. Some are designed to get a first-and-ten, some are designed to get a field goal, and some go for the touchdown. In this manner, never moving backward, we strive to win the game: full restoration of your firearms rights. We don't believe we can have just one play--the Hail Mary pass--in our playbook!

Under the current House leadership, Iowans have seen your RKBA Amendment to the Iowa Constitution pass through the House. Your Stand Your Ground bill passed through the House. Your Privacy of Records and NIAA Compliance (rights restoration for some mental issues) passed through the House. And now your Legalize Silencers for Iowans bill has passed through the House with an overwhelming bipartisan majority. Are these the actions of anti-gun politicians and organizations?

It’s true that all those bills but the NIAA died in the Senate, but only at the solitary hand of Senator Rob Hogg, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee. Senator Hogg has not passed a single gun bill through his committee since being designated chairman and he has stated that he will not pass any gun bills as long as he remains chairman. However, the legwork has been done to know that with respect to the silencer bill, the members of the Senate Democrat Caucus would vote 20-to-6, along with all Republicans, to pass the bill--but only if it were to get past Senator Hogg and be brought to the floor for vote by the full Senate.

So, what does all this mean, really? IFC and the NRA have spent the last several years creating positive relationships with the members and leadership in both chambers. We know that the any gun bill that gets passed in the House will not move through the Senate Judiciary Committee so long as Senator Hogg chairs that committee. We know that the House is willing to pass good bills, but this knowledge is tempered by the fact that Senator Hogg will kill them. And we know the only way to pass firearms related bills through both chambers is for one of the following things to happen: Majority Leader Gronstal must be convinced to change the leadership of the Senate Judiciary Committee; Senator Gronstal must join with the willing House leadership to create a leadership bill for legalizing suppressors, or barring all that, the citizens of Iowa will need to make changes the make-up of the Senate.

One thing is certain: Your Iowa Firearms Coalition and National Rifle Association are there in Des Moines, at the Capitol, working tirelessly with members of both chambers to restore your firearms rights. Furthermore, and most importantly, IFC and the NRA have the most motivated, involved, and active membership in Iowa. When we need you to respond, you respond. You have been very influential with your calls and emails, and it gives us great confidence to know that we can count on you because you have never let us down.

Our most sincere thanks go to our memberships for making IFC and the NRA the two most influential groups restoring firearms rights to the citizens of Iowa!

Fighting for your Second Amendment rights in Iowa,
Iowa Firearms Coalition

How much to bribe Gronstal to kick Hogg to the curb.  That seems to be really the only option at its point.  Hogg will never pass the bill, let alone bring it to committee.
Just how much NRA support are we receiving?  I am sure they have some tough lobbyists.

Welcome John! You've got a solid following here, we're ready to do what we can to help restore/expand our rights.

Can't (won't) try to bribe anyone, sorry. There are no 'committee' paths to work on from here on out. The only way forward is directly to the floor in each chamber. NRA Support? Fantastic. We work side by side and, yes, she's tough! And sharp too! This isn't over until the gavel falls, but it will be Hogg standing down from his hard line position that will accomplish this. Pressure from his caucus and leadership will provide that pressure. Pressure from all of us applied to his caucus and leadership will keep them working on Hogg. Keep it going until the very end. This bill could pass in about 30 minutes through both chambers if they chose to do it, perhaps less!

Thanks for the welcome! I'll sure feel better when I get a post count out of single digits!!! LOL. I haven't looked at numbers like I have here for a long time.

Have you talked to Gronstal ? What is he telling you? I take it he cant be very much in support or this would be passed.

Yes, have talked to him several times. He has stated unequivocal support for the bill, has argued in his caucus in favor of the bill, and has 'discussed' the idea of standing down from his position with Sen. Hogg. I  believe Sen. Gronstal. Some don't and won't.

Who can bring this right to the floor for a vote?

Senator Robert Hogg (Democrat  SD-33)

Dont know how it all works but I figured the majority leader could if Hogg is the only one that can then we are screwed

Sent the following to Gronstal:

Hello Senator Gronstal,

Please, don't be the guy that tells us we can't own the same things that our neighbors in 39 states can.

We are writing to ask you to bypass Senator Hogg and resurrect the suppressor bill.

Second Amendment issues are important to us.  While we are not party line voters or party line contributors, the Senate's repeated blocking of 2A legislation that is well supported in the House during this and last year is such that we are beginning to consider the fact of a Democratic majority to be the problem.

We understand that it is unlikely you will override Senator Hogg's decision.  However, we also ask you to understand that our efforts this summer as  voters, volunteers, and contributors will be directed to help change the makeup of the Senate if 2A issues that are paramount to us continue to be ignored by the Democratic party.

Once again, we are not normally party line voters.

We have a great deal of respect for you because of how you have lead the Senate in the past and appreciate what you have done for firearms legislation beginning in 2010.  However, our support for individual Democrats ends when the overall party as a majority begins abandoning the issue that determines our votes.

Respectfully,
(yammer and mrs. yammer)

Of course that was a joke. But this is the problem when the power all rides in the hands of one person.  Especially one who obviously has no respect for our rights or the 2A

The letter in the above post is good.

I hope many, many of you will feel free to use all or parts of it to send your own.

This is excellent! Respectful, acknowledges Gronstal has done good things in the past, and makes a strong 'ask' that is compelling. Nicely done!

no kidding.

this is how we win.  our people stay involved and focused.  

you guys have pushed and pushed and pushed.  your commitment to this cause is the reason we go as far as we do.  take a look at other states fighting to protect and regain their rights and you'll see them less organized with less push and focus.  

keep the letters, emails, calls, and most of all PERSONAL VISITS coming.  we're in the home stretch and need every one of you!

Just hit the IFC link again, and sent a copy of the YammerSchooner letter to all Senate leaders. Thanks for sharing, "personalized" letters like these show real support.

There's no doubt they're getting a strong showing of support of HF2381. Keep the pressure up fellas!

I enjoyed Michael's article about suppressors in the may issue of Iowa Sportsman.  

Nail on head That sounds just like the DNR

i always wonder how many people read those and i never can tell who is and isn't reading...  lol.  i think i give patrick (owner/publisher) some heartburn from time to time, but he doesn't edit out my snarkiness...

looking for movement on suppressors soon!  i don't know when but i think the end of the session is near so things will be coming around pretty quickly!

I hope that opened up some fudds to the idea of how this could benefit everyone not just us gun nuts shooting enthusiasts

btt...still contacting reps...

Thanks for the bump Stewie! I logged on to do the same thing. This year's session is tentatively scheduled to end April 22nd. That's 1 week and 1 day from now. There isn't much time left. Let's not slink silently into oblivion with our tails between our legs on this one.

ETA: Link to IFC Letter to YOUR legislators

NRA and IFC are up at the capitol building today working on this!  PUSH, PUSH, PUSH!

Hit it up again!  Passed along to the gun guys in the office as well

I also emailed Gronstal

Thanks Yammerschooner for the wording!

Just got this and I find what he is saying about the governors support interesting




Also from my Rep

Brandstad is to busy defending himself during all these scandals to worry about suppressors.

If only our other dear leader were of the same mindset, we wouldn't have to waste time and effort on his occasional "ban guns' propaganda drives. Scandals are sliding off him than even faster than slick willy.

i'm not sure what that means.  can you expand on this or are you just saying stupid shit that derails our focus for fun?

Has Brandstad came out publicly in support of suppressor bill passing? If not then why?

He's probably talking about the "pay off employees when laid off" thing or the "fired trooper / branstad's driver speeding" things. I can't really tell if there is anything to them, or if they are manufactured smear campaigns.

Yes this^  I'm not trying to derail just stating the fact that he is facing one hell of a smear campaign.  He may very well support our cause, but you have to admit with all that going on it has to be taking up a lot of his time and focus.  I already knew I'm to stupid and beneath the rest of you, but thanks for making sure I know it.

LOL...that will teach me about reading posts on arfcom as soon as I get home from work.  I usually just type my replies in here quick without a lot of extra thought.  I can see why I may have seemed like a negative nancy in my post about Brandstad, but I promise you that is not the case.  I've been in full support of this and done what I can within my limited power to help.

In an attempt to get this back on a productive track, here's the text of an email I just sent Sen. Gronstal and the rest of the leadership. The clock is ticking. Please keep up the good work guys!

thanks!!!

also, yes, as has been written here many times, branstad is ready and willing to sign this legislation.

Maybe he should state that publicly and take that ammo away from some of the dems

it won't matter what he says.  he could sign a law giving $100 bills to babies upon birth just for fun and they'd still berate him.  the d's are scared and they're pulling all the stops to make any R, especially him, look bad.

no more, no less.

now back to the topic of legalizing cans!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any updates?

Just hang in there. We're still working on legalizing suppressors. Can't say anything specific right now. Just don't give up.

Thanks keep us updated

Wanted to say thanks for the updates and also to those of you working hard on this.

THANK YOU!

these kinds of efforts ONLY work when we're all ENGAGED.  the continued push you guys are making are the reason this is continuing to be discussed and worked on.  without your work, nobody else can do theirs...

Clock is ticking on this.

Bump.

Wanted to ask is there anything more we can be doing short of contacting our reps?

I'm just a guy so I don't know if this is right wrong or somewhere in between, but I've been contacting both my Rep and Senator, as well as the leadership of both houses. I figure this way my local legislators are aware of my wishes, as well as the leaders of both parties in both houses - since these guys are the ones involved in the creation of a leadership bill.

Other than that, I've been trying to educate co-workers, family members, and others in my 'sphere of influence.' Take that for what it's worth... if anyone has any other suggestions I'm all ears.

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