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Posted: 5/3/2016 7:47:37 AM EDT
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Do you have an Ohio CPL?
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Posted: 5/3/2016 7:56:45 AM EDT
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Edit apparently Michigan laws are more complicated than I remember. This has come up before, should've remembered you do need your CPL for a non resident handgun.
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Posted: 5/3/2016 8:15:13 AM EDT
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Do you have an Ohio CPL? No: I don't carry. I do transport my firearms unloaded & cased when I go to the range here. |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 8:18:58 AM EDT
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Short answer either way is yes. If you don't have your conceal carry license then you just need to have the gun unloaded and cased in your trunk for transport. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you have an Ohio CPL? Short answer either way is yes. If you don't have your conceal carry license then you just need to have the gun unloaded and cased in your trunk for transport. Thanks! Was sifting thru the various links to Michigan law, and could not figure-out about non-resident possession..... |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 8:25:24 AM EDT
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MCL 28.422:
(9) An individual who is not a resident of this state is not required to obtain a license under this section if all of the following conditions apply:
(a) The individual is licensed in his or her state of residence to purchase, carry, or transport a pistol. (b) The individual is in possession of the license described in subdivision (a). (c) The individual is the owner of the pistol he or she possesses, carries, or transports. (d) The individual possesses the pistol for a lawful purpose. (e) The individual is in this state for a period of 180 days or less and does not intend to establish residency in this state. (10) An individual who is a nonresident of this state shall present the license described in subsection (9)(a) upon the demand of a police officer. An individual who violates this subsection is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both. By my reading of the law, you are not allowed to posses a pistol in MI. You do not have an Ohio CCW license, and Ohio does not provide pistol licenses; therefore, you do not meet the requirements of 9a. |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 9:30:26 PM EDT
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Rjbergen nailed it. Get your Ohio Concealed Handgun License, and all your difficulties with pistol possession in Michigan go away...
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Posted: 5/5/2016 2:41:08 AM EDT
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Send an email to [email protected]. Jim is a good guy and well versed in MI firearms law. He should be able to give you a quick answer pro-bono. Most local law enforcement are not fully up on our firearms laws so he'd be your best bet, if something were to go wrong at least you'd have the right guy on your side.
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Posted: 5/8/2016 7:19:50 AM EDT
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MCL 28.422: By my reading of the law, you are not allowed to posses a pistol in MI. You do not have an Ohio CCW license, and Ohio does not provide pistol licenses; therefore, you do not meet the requirements of 9a. Quote HistoryQuoted:
MCL 28.422: (9) An individual who is not a resident of this state is not required to obtain a license under this section if all of the following conditions apply:
(a) The individual is licensed in his or her state of residence to purchase, carry, or transport a pistol. (b) The individual is in possession of the license described in subdivision (a). (c) The individual is the owner of the pistol he or she possesses, carries, or transports. (d) The individual possesses the pistol for a lawful purpose. (e) The individual is in this state for a period of 180 days or less and does not intend to establish residency in this state. (10) An individual who is a nonresident of this state shall present the license described in subsection (9)(a) upon the demand of a police officer. An individual who violates this subsection is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both. By my reading of the law, you are not allowed to posses a pistol in MI. You do not have an Ohio CCW license, and Ohio does not provide pistol licenses; therefore, you do not meet the requirements of 9a. So how did all the out of state pistol shooters legally bring their pistol to Michigan for matches before CPL's were the norm? |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 1:38:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So how did all the out of state pistol shooters legally bring their pistol to Michigan for matches before CPL's were the norm? (13) This section does not apply to a person who possesses a pistol if all of the following conditions apply: (a) The person is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a pistol. (b) The person is at a recognized target range or shooting facility. (c) The person possesses the pistol for the purpose of target practice or instruction in the safe use of a pistol. (d) The owner of the pistol is physically present and supervising the use of the pistol. I don't know if the federal Safe Passage provisions of the FOPA would apply to transporting the pistol in Michigan to-and-from the range, that may open up a whole other can of worms. MCL 28.422 has been amended several times, it's possible it read differently before shall-issue handgun licenses became commonplace. |
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