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Posted: 4/10/2015 4:55:47 PM EDT
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Damn, guess I'm going to have to buy one now, that's what I was waiting for
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Posted: 4/10/2015 6:39:10 PM EDT
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WANT!
Stupid 922r is stupid |
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Posted: 4/10/2015 9:25:23 PM EDT
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I still don't see how 922r applies, the end user is the manufacturer of the rifle. Me thinks if someone ever gets busted for not complying with 922r they've got worse problems, cause the atf is not kicking in doors solely because of that.
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Posted: 4/11/2015 2:55:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still don't see how 922r applies, the end user is the manufacturer of the rifle. Me thinks if someone ever gets busted for not complying with 922r they've got worse problems, cause the atf is not kicking in doors solely because of that. |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 9:19:16 AM EDT
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I still don't see how 922r applies, the end user is the manufacturer of the rifle. Me thinks if someone ever gets busted for not complying with 922r they've got worse problems, cause the atf is not kicking in doors solely because of that. The ATF just determined that shouldering a sig brace equipped pistol "manufactured" an unregistered SBR. Thus the user was the manufacturer. With that in mind, how does 922r apply? ETA- good on CZ for making the necessary parts for their customers. |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 9:38:02 AM EDT
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I'm with you. I thought a SBR was no longer considered a "sporting rifle" and therefore not subject to 922r. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still don't see how 922r applies, the end user is the manufacturer of the rifle. Me thinks if someone ever gets busted for not complying with 922r they've got worse problems, cause the atf is not kicking in doors solely because of that. Let's take that one step further. If 922r does apply, thus making this a "sporting rifle," then NFA doesn't apply........now this goes strickly by the definitions the ATF has set forth, so we know it will never work! |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 2:58:01 PM EDT
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Guys, guys, guys.
You can not apply logical thinking to what the ATF says or does. |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 4:11:09 PM EDT
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Guys, guys, guys. You can not apply logical thinking to what the ATF says or does. I've got to vent on this subject don't stop me now  
Also how do you approve a form 1 knowing that the end user will be in violation of 922r? This shit is plain stupid. |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 4:42:57 PM EDT
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I picked up a lower this morning, while waiting for the feds to give the go ahead I turn around and start looking at what the store had, there sitting on display was a EVO 3 S1. I damn near pulled out the credit card and bought it after seeing this thread.
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Posted: 4/11/2015 5:54:13 PM EDT
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So who all in Mo, actually has one??? Personally, not shops???
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Posted: 4/11/2015 6:33:27 PM EDT
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So who all in Mo, actually has one??? Personally, not shops??? I picked mine up 2 weeks ago and have efiled form 1 on it. |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 7:05:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2015 7:23:06 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150329_162635_zpsfe3z7dfy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/20150329_162635_zpsfe3z7dfy.jpg</a> That is all  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So who all in Mo, actually has one??? Personally, not shops??? <a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150329_162635_zpsfe3z7dfy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/20150329_162635_zpsfe3z7dfy.jpg</a> That is all Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudy
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Posted: 4/11/2015 7:58:59 PM EDT
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 Scorpion Evo W/ Silencer Co Octane 45 HD and their Evo Adapter for Octane... Did not have a chance to put a RDS on yet... It will be a Primary Arms Microdot as I have spare one somewhere, if I can find it. This thing is dieing for a Stock....  |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 8:02:57 PM EDT
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I picked mine up about a month ago. I have the sig brace on it but have yet to file the form 1
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Posted: 4/11/2015 8:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I picked mine up about a month ago. I have the sig brace on it but have yet to file the form 1 |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 8:40:51 PM EDT
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I've got to vent on this subject don't stop me now
Also how do you approve a form 1 knowing that the end user will be in violation of 922r? This shit is plain stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guys, guys, guys. You can not apply logical thinking to what the ATF says or does. I've got to vent on this subject don't stop me now
Also how do you approve a form 1 knowing that the end user will be in violation of 922r? This shit is plain stupid. Simply issuing a stamp doesn't make someone in violation. There are some very resourceful people out there when it comes to procuring or even making the parts they need. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if someone were to pull certain parts and take them to an engraver. |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 11:46:06 PM EDT
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<a href="http://www.imagebam.com/image/a4d4ad403118243" target="_blank">http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/40312/a4d4ad403118243.jpg</a> Scorpion Evo W/ Silencer Co Octane 45 HD and their Evo Adapter for Octane... Did not have a chance to put a RDS on yet... It will be a Primary Arms Microdot as I have spare one somewhere, if I can find it. This thing is dieing for a Stock....
Yeah I had a spare laying around from Black Friday so I threw it on mine.  " />
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Posted: 4/12/2015 10:07:00 AM EDT
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<a href="http://www.imagebam.com/image/a4d4ad403118243" target="_blank">http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/40312/a4d4ad403118243.jpg</a> Scorpion Evo W/ Silencer Co Octane 45 HD and their Evo Adapter for Octane... Did not have a chance to put a RDS on yet... It will be a Primary Arms Microdot as I have spare one somewhere, if I can find it. This thing is dieing for a Stock....
Sexy gun, that'll be bad ass with a stock on it. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 10:39:11 AM EDT
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<a href="http://www.imagebam.com/image/a4d4ad403118243" target="_blank">http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/40312/a4d4ad403118243.jpg</a> Scorpion Evo W/ Silencer Co Octane 45 HD and their Evo Adapter for Octane... Did not have a chance to put a RDS on yet... It will be a Primary Arms Microdot as I have spare one somewhere, if I can find it. This thing is dieing for a Stock....
Does that adapter go 18x1 to 1/2-28 or is it specific to the Octane? |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 2:37:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I had a spare laying around from Black Friday so I threw it on mine. http://<a href=http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/TATBME/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsovtj2v5x.jpg</a>" /> Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: <a href="http://www.imagebam.com/image/a4d4ad403118243" target="_blank">http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/40312/a4d4ad403118243.jpg</a> Scorpion Evo W/ Silencer Co Octane 45 HD and their Evo Adapter for Octane... Did not have a chance to put a RDS on yet... It will be a Primary Arms Microdot as I have spare one somewhere, if I can find it. This thing is dieing for a Stock.... Yeah I had a spare laying around from Black Friday so I threw it on mine. http://<a href=http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/TATBME/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsovtj2v5x.jpg</a>" /> How do you like it at that height? Is it too low or need a riser??? Where ever my spare one is, it has a LaRue T1 mount on it, but I can switch it back to the low profile base... |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 2:42:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that adapter go 18x1 to 1/2-28 or is it specific to the Octane? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: <a href="http://www.imagebam.com/image/a4d4ad403118243" target="_blank">http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/40312/a4d4ad403118243.jpg</a> Scorpion Evo W/ Silencer Co Octane 45 HD and their Evo Adapter for Octane... Did not have a chance to put a RDS on yet... It will be a Primary Arms Microdot as I have spare one somewhere, if I can find it. This thing is dieing for a Stock.... Does that adapter go 18x1 to 1/2-28 or is it specific to the Octane? Its 18x1 and specific to the Octane... You just unscrew the one that is already in there, pop this one in, screw it on the the Scorpions Barrel and your set... Works great... There are a few guys on the NFA FB groups that run shops that will re-thread the Scorpion barrel, but by the time you pay to ship it both ways, pay them to do it, wait for it and hope they do it right, really I like the SiCo adapter idea much better... http://www.store.silencerco.com/products/thread-mount  |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 3:26:31 PM EDT
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Its 18x1 and specific to the Octane... You just unscrew the one that is already in there, pop this one in, screw it on the the Scorpions Barrel and your set... Works great... There are a few guys on the NFA FB groups that run shops that will re-thread the Scorpion barrel, but by the time you pay to ship it both ways, pay them to do it, wait for it and hope they do it right, really I like the SiCo adapter idea much better... http://www.store.silencerco.com/products/thread-mount http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0157/8968/products/OctaneThreadMount_1024x1024.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://www.imagebam.com/image/a4d4ad403118243" target="_blank">http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/40312/a4d4ad403118243.jpg</a> Scorpion Evo W/ Silencer Co Octane 45 HD and their Evo Adapter for Octane... Did not have a chance to put a RDS on yet... It will be a Primary Arms Microdot as I have spare one somewhere, if I can find it. This thing is dieing for a Stock....
Does that adapter go 18x1 to 1/2-28 or is it specific to the Octane? Its 18x1 and specific to the Octane... You just unscrew the one that is already in there, pop this one in, screw it on the the Scorpions Barrel and your set... Works great... There are a few guys on the NFA FB groups that run shops that will re-thread the Scorpion barrel, but by the time you pay to ship it both ways, pay them to do it, wait for it and hope they do it right, really I like the SiCo adapter idea much better... http://www.store.silencerco.com/products/thread-mount http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0157/8968/products/OctaneThreadMount_1024x1024.png I was afraid of that... 
I'm thinking about tearing mine down and sending my barrel out to ADCO while I wait for a stock
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Posted: 4/12/2015 4:13:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was afraid of that... I'm thinking about tearing mine down and sending my barrel out to ADCO while I wait for a stock Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: <a href="http://www.imagebam.com/image/a4d4ad403118243" target="_blank">http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/40312/a4d4ad403118243.jpg</a> Scorpion Evo W/ Silencer Co Octane 45 HD and their Evo Adapter for Octane... Did not have a chance to put a RDS on yet... It will be a Primary Arms Microdot as I have spare one somewhere, if I can find it. This thing is dieing for a Stock.... Does that adapter go 18x1 to 1/2-28 or is it specific to the Octane? Its 18x1 and specific to the Octane... You just unscrew the one that is already in there, pop this one in, screw it on the the Scorpions Barrel and your set... Works great... There are a few guys on the NFA FB groups that run shops that will re-thread the Scorpion barrel, but by the time you pay to ship it both ways, pay them to do it, wait for it and hope they do it right, really I like the SiCo adapter idea much better... http://www.store.silencerco.com/products/thread-mount http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0157/8968/products/OctaneThreadMount_1024x1024.png I was afraid of that... I'm thinking about tearing mine down and sending my barrel out to ADCO while I wait for a stock As far as Stocks, I saw a Magpul MOE on one, I did not think I'd like it, But I really did... Looks good, feel right... |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 4:33:52 PM EDT
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How do you like it at that height? Is it too low or need a riser??? Where ever my spare one is, it has a LaRue T1 mount on it, but I can switch it back to the low profile base... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://www.imagebam.com/image/a4d4ad403118243" target="_blank">http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/40312/a4d4ad403118243.jpg</a> Scorpion Evo W/ Silencer Co Octane 45 HD and their Evo Adapter for Octane... Did not have a chance to put a RDS on yet... It will be a Primary Arms Microdot as I have spare one somewhere, if I can find it. This thing is dieing for a Stock....
Yeah I had a spare laying around from Black Friday so I threw it on mine. http://<a href=http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/TATBME/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsovtj2v5x.jpg</a>" /> How do you like it at that height? Is it too low or need a riser??? Where ever my spare one is, it has a LaRue T1 mount on it, but I can switch it back to the low profile base... It's ok I really cant tell till I get a stock put on it to know for sure. I seen someone that sbr theirs with a mft stock and it really looked like it belonged on the gun. Hopefully by time I get my form 1 back the factory stock will be available. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:38:49 PM EDT
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What can do you have? I've heard other Can makers we're coming out with adapters too... As far as Stocks, I saw a Magpul MOE on one, I did not think I'd like it, But I really did... Looks good, feel right... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://www.imagebam.com/image/a4d4ad403118243" target="_blank">http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/40312/a4d4ad403118243.jpg</a> Scorpion Evo W/ Silencer Co Octane 45 HD and their Evo Adapter for Octane... Did not have a chance to put a RDS on yet... It will be a Primary Arms Microdot as I have spare one somewhere, if I can find it. This thing is dieing for a Stock....
Does that adapter go 18x1 to 1/2-28 or is it specific to the Octane? Its 18x1 and specific to the Octane... You just unscrew the one that is already in there, pop this one in, screw it on the the Scorpions Barrel and your set... Works great... There are a few guys on the NFA FB groups that run shops that will re-thread the Scorpion barrel, but by the time you pay to ship it both ways, pay them to do it, wait for it and hope they do it right, really I like the SiCo adapter idea much better... http://www.store.silencerco.com/products/thread-mount http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0157/8968/products/OctaneThreadMount_1024x1024.png I was afraid of that...
I'm thinking about tearing mine down and sending my barrel out to ADCO while I wait for a stock
As far as Stocks, I saw a Magpul MOE on one, I did not think I'd like it, But I really did... Looks good, feel right... Ti-rant. AAC customer service said their in the process but no timeline. I've already got a 1/2-28 so I figure it's about the same price to re-thread as it is for a new piston and then I'll have one less thing I could loose in the garage 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 1:37:07 PM EDT
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I'm with you. I thought a SBR was no longer considered a "sporting rifle" and therefore not subject to 922r. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still don't see how 922r applies, the end user is the manufacturer of the rifle. Me thinks if someone ever gets busted for not complying with 922r they've got worse problems, cause the atf is not kicking in doors solely because of that. I was under this same line of thinking as well. I recall reading that you could Form 1 a Saiga into a SBS and not have to worry about the bullshit 922r.
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Posted: 4/20/2015 2:25:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was under this same line of thinking as well. I recall reading that you could Form 1 a Saiga into a SBS and not have to worry about the bullshit 922r. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I still don't see how 922r applies, the end user is the manufacturer of the rifle. Me thinks if someone ever gets busted for not complying with 922r they've got worse problems, cause the atf is not kicking in doors solely because of that. I was under this same line of thinking as well. I recall reading that you could Form 1 a Saiga into a SBS and not have to worry about the bullshit 922r. There was a big argument on FB in a "Scorpion Evo Enthusiasts group" about this over the weekend and got a lot of folks shackles up.. A few of the folks that said, 922r was not an issue got mad and started calling names.... My only comment is, ""After CZ contacted and heard back from the ATF on this, why would they bother with setting up a 922r kit before making the stocks available to customers, if it were not an issue..."" and I think another thread on here was at least temporarily shut down as folks got too heated when their opinion was challenged.... When dealing with ATF stances, things don't always make sense or follow logic... |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:20:57 PM EDT
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I still don't see how 922r applies, the end user is the manufacturer of the rifle. Me thinks if someone ever gets busted for not complying with 922r they've got worse problems, cause the atf is not kicking in doors solely because of that. I was under this same line of thinking as well. I recall reading that you could Form 1 a Saiga into a SBS and not have to worry about the bullshit 922r. Snip... When dealing with ATF stances, things don't always make sense or follow logic... QFT. And anyone that is more than a casual gun guy should realize this. |
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