A member here got a Form 1 approved (e File) in SEVENTEEN DAYS!

He will probably add to this thread.

He better bring pics!!!!  

I'm on day 11 now. Hope I see the same.

I will be on Day One later this week on my FN PS90

That beats my 21 days.

you mean P90?

 

Submitted mine around 4pm Sunday. I expect to put a stock on my pistol by the end of the month. Watching NFA Tracker, paper forms are speeding up too, and I am cautiously hopeful to have my can out of SUB_MG_JAIL by the end of the year.

PS90 is the long barreled Semi version of the Select Fire P90. Thanks to the May 19, 1986 ban on new transferable machine guns there will never be a transferable P90

PS90 (non-SBR)



SBR PS90



REAL P90

 

That member...would be me.  Got my form back in 17 days.

I was however bested by someone who got theirs back in 14 days.

Oh well!

Time to send the PS90 barrel off to get chopped!

My last form, took 30.  Two SBR's pretty much instantly.

This is bad to say, but I am glad Form 4's arent up. I would be bankrupt.

It had to be trust or LLC since it was e-filed (see OP).  However, I'm also curious if they are processing frequent filers faster than first-time users.  Derek1387, if you don't mind, have you recently had a form approved?  Maybe they may have an "express lane" for filers who just recently had a form approved.  It would make sense to not do the full check (whatever they do) on a filer that was recently approved for another form.  I'm just speculating of course.

Can you order a SBR PS90 direct from FN??   Or do you have to buy the standard length then get a barrel from someone else?

Also, what kind of optics are you going with?  Are the factory ones any good, or do you just go with a rail and get your own?

Sorry for all the questions......I've always wanted one of these and this sparked my interest again.

No, FN unfortunately in NOT NFA "Friendly". USED P90 barrels have brought as much as $800.00

The best way to do this is to send your PS90 barrel to TROS, Mark McWillis does OUTSTANDING work on PS90's. To date he has cut more than 500 barrels down and properly threaded them. He is reasonable and fairly quick.

As to optics, I'm partial to what the pics I posted have. A TROS Aimpoint mount and your choice of an M3, Aimpoint Pro or one of the similar Aimpoint's (M2, ML3, etc)

Don't make the same mistake I did and try going out and purchasing a "low profile rail" thinking it will get your optic low enough, it won't. Look at TROS for your mount.

If you look for a PS90, I would try and locate the Tri Rail as it is the lowest mount they made, Unfortunately it's no longer in production. Currently the ONLY model offered to the civilian market is the Standard. The only difference between the Standard and the L.E. Model is the L.E. comes with a 50 round mag vs a 30 round.

You really need to spend quite a bit of time over at FN Forums reading the PS90 section, there is a LOT of damn good information there.

Wow lots of PS90's getting sbr'd!

Mine was approved last week, TROS now has my barrel. Was really hard cutting off a barrel on a brand new gun....

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Yup...that is exactly what I am going through right now. Had my rifle 3 weeks. Havent even shot it. And going to take it over to PursuitSS's to have him pull the barrel, then ship it off

And yes, Trust/E-Filed

So if I ordered a suppressor, I could use it in a month or so, not half year later?

Yep!

What grain of round works best against Goa'uld?

No, E-filing is not capable of doing form 4s currently.

Being you have a PS90 I think you will agree there isn't another weapon that screams SBR more than the PS90.  It's kind of an abortion with the long barrel and shroud.

Plus shortening the barrel to 10.4" brings it back to the "sweet spot" where it was designed to operate.

The longer barrel creates a different pressure curve that on "hot" loads creates some interesting issues, popping the magazine up is the most common problem.

You should also look into the mounts Mark at TROS offers, the rail that comes with the Standard is WAY too tall.

SS190

Shit... this makes me want to be irresponsible and put one on a CC. I just finally finished my AR and got a Mark 12 Mod 0 upper. It needs... something...

I posted about it on GD, maybe I should have cross posted here too.

Thanks to Chad9mm I got it sighted in.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1661009_I_am_finally_offically_an_ARFCOMMER___New_SPR_Mark_12_Mod_0_Upper___LOTS_of_pics_UPDATE_Pg1.html&page=1

If you look for one, keep in mind the price has came down quite a bit in the last year.

You SHOULD be able to locate one for no more than $1,100.00

I'm almost ashamed to think what I paid for mine (L.E. gets a pretty good discount), almost.

OK - I just educated myself. Form 4 for a silencer, but for individuals the e-form doesn't work, yet.

Form 1 for SBRs

You can Form 1 a suppressor too, but you have to make it.

Thats what started my love for the P90, I miss that show!

Yeah, my oldest son wants a Black PS90 SBR because it will look like the Stargate weapons

Remember the different weapons they used...

HK MP5's

HK MP7's

FN P90's

And IIRC occasionally M4's & M249's

Yeah, that's what I had a quote for.  I'm just trying to figure out how much money it's going to take AFTER that.....

Too much!

A little over a hundred for cutting the barrel, around the same amount for a TROS mount.

$20-25 for Factory FN magazines. Keep in mind the 10 rd & 30 rd mags are the SAME except they have a block in them you can cut out.

Then you NEED Man Kave...

Magazine Rollers
Larger Charging Handle
Magazine Release

Then a Pelican Laptop case....

Where are you getting a little over $100 to chop the barrel?

Its $188 to chop/thread/adapter from Tros

I don't need / want the adaptor

If I install a can I'll use the Gemtech muzzle device

Hmm...gotta locate one of those bad boys

Here is a list of some current approvals and some that are in process right now.  Im expecting my efiled 22 SBR to be approved any minute.

NFA Item: (SBR) Colt 9mm
Form Type: Form 1
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: efile
Pending Date: 7/22/14
Approved Date: 8/18/14
Forms Received: 7/22/14
Examiner: ? cant read writing

NFA Item:  (SBR) Colt M4A1
Form Type: Form 1
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: efile
Pending Date: 7/22/14
Approved Date:  8/18/14
Forms Received: 7/22/14
Examiner:  ? cant read writing

NFA Item: (SBR) Colt M4A1
Form Type: Form 1
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: efile
Pending Date: 7/22/14
Approved Date: 8/18/14
Forms Received:  7/22/14
Examiner:  ? cant read writing

NFA Item: (SBR) Colt M4A1
Form Type: Form 1
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: efile
Pending Date: 7/22/14
Approved Date: 8/18/14
Forms Received: 7/22/14
Examiner: ? cant read writing

NFA Item: (SBR) SW M&P 15-22
Form Type: Form 1
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: efile
Pending Date: 8/15/14
Approved Date:  9/12/14
Forms Received: 8/15/14
Examiner: ? can't read writing

NFA Item: (Suppressor) Silencer Co Spectre II
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: 8/23/14
Pending Date:
Approved Date:
Forms Received: 9/3/14 check cashed
Examiner:

NFA Item: (Suppressor) Silencer Co Octane 45 HD BLK
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed:  8/23/14
Pending Date:
Approved Date:
Forms Received: 9/3/14 check cashed
Examiner:

NFA Item: (SBR) Colt 6933
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: 8/23/14
Pending Date:
Approved Date:
Forms Received: 9/3/14 check cashed
Examiner:

NFA Item: (SBR) Colt 6945
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: 6/14/14
Pending Date:
Approved Date:
Forms Received: 6/26/14 check cashed
Examiner:

NFA Item: (Suppressor) Knights Arm. NT4 Taupe
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: Form 3 approved - in route to dealer
Pending Date:
Approved Date:
Forms Received:
Examiner:

NFA Item:  (Suppressor) Surefire SOCOM RC 5.56 FDE
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: form 3 approved - in route to dealer
Pending Date:
Approved Date:
Forms Received:
Examiner:

NFA Item: (Suppressor) Silencer Co Spectre II
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: waiting on form 3 (filed 8/10/14)
Pending Date:
Approved Date:
Forms Received:
Examiner:

NFA Item: (Suppressor) AAC SDN-6
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: form 3 approved - in route to dealer
Pending Date:
Approved Date:
Forms Received:
Examiner:

NFA Item: (SBS) Tromix Saiga 12 S17
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Paper Filed: waiting on form 3 (filed 8/27/14)
Pending Date:
Approved Date:
Forms Received:
Examiner:

I think it would be more accurate to say...





Form 1, you want to make or assemble you own NFA items yourself.





Form 4, you bought an NFA item and a Dealer/SOT, is going to transfer it too you...





There a are others, but those are the ones your most concerned about.



 

You guys are a bad influence.
I e-filed my first ever form 1 today.

8" 9mm using a dedicated lower from CMMG.  It is currently in pistol configuration so all I need to do is get it engraved and once approved, put on the stock body.

Thank you!

That's our job

Argghhh! Now I want a trust, this place is going to bankrupt me, I might jump for it when/if form 4s are efile-able again

then again, every time I inquire about NFA stuff it ends up not happening

Get the trust now, so its all set up and ready...



 

Do it.  Do it.  Do it.  Do it.

The two of you...

if I spent the money on a trust I think it would be some time before I could even buy anything that I could use a form on, I really need a job upgrade

Trust is $50....$44 if you use coupon code "James" at doityourselfdocuments.com

Hmmmmmm, that looks a bit sketchy to me..

ETA: their email is a yahoo account?

That I can understand...  



 

That is who Derek went through and his e-File's are going through

I used the same people.  I had a lawyer check mine out who has written a few trusts himself and he made a couple small changes and mine has worked several times.

I actually went to school with the lawyer who runs that site/firm....so I have no reason not to trust it.

And yes, I am on my 4th approved stamp with it.

You can spend more money if you want.....but thats up to you.

OK - so who wants to explain to me how this works? If you go through a trust, you can use the eform and the faster turn around? I think I understand the advantages of a trust, but anyone else want to clue me in?

The advantages for me were the faster turn around, the ability to ad co-trustees who could then also posses the items, and to keep the NFA items from going through probate when I die.

E-Forms, no signatures from CLEO, no fingerprinting, multiple people can be on the trust, so if you have family or friends you shoot with who you want to be able to take said item without you being there, they can. And yeah, when you die, you determine what happens with the NFA items rather then them being surrendered.

Can you put a minor on the trust? Do the people need to know they are on it? IE put my dad on it just in case I die, with out bothering him about it now.