Looking to get into some SBR's and suppressor's here in the near future and I'm looking to go the trust route. I'm wanting to do my trust right the first go around so wanting to find someone that has experience making NFA Trust's in or around the Birmingham area. Anyone have any info?

drop me a line at [email protected] know a guy.

Mitchell A Spears
804 Main St, Montevallo, AL 35115
(205) 665-5102

Thanks for the reply and info guys.

I used one I downloaded from here, made my own changes, and had no issues.  The trust is yours, you can change the trust anytime once established by simply changing the document.  It's not permanently set in stone.  Have a kid and want to add him to the trust?  No problem, just add him, print and sign the trust, shred the old one, and the trust is changed.  I did have an AL lawyer look at mine once and he said there were no glaring issues with it and the ATF had no issues...  Save the money and use it for another tax stamp!

Only advice is to make a short trust name to make engraving easier.  "bob's nfa trust" or something equally short.  I see a lot of "bob's revocable living NFA firearms trust" or similar that can make finding a suitable spot for engraving difficult.

You really need to go take this post to an Alabama trust/estates attorney and have him/her advise you on Alabama law.

Why?  

It does what I need it to, it's legal, and I'm happy with it.  It's not magic.  Criminals file lawsuits and make their own court documents.

This makes me feel good about using him. Im not to far from Montevallo so this would be a easy drive for me

The attorney you go to will tell you why.

I can sit in a plane and push the controls.  Want to be on it when I try to land?  The criminal did the same with his forms and landed in jail.

So I have to pay $300/hr to have a lawyer tell me why I need to pay him $300/hr?  The fact that you can't tell me why a lawyer is necessary... means you don't know why you say a lawyer is necessary.  Did you miss the part of my first post where I said a lawyer did look at mine after the fact and said no issues?  

OP: This discussion gets old fast, 1/2 have paid a lawyer and 1/2 have not.  You choose which works best for you.  All the ones you can find online have been used successfully already and all were made by a lawyer or some legal software(which is what a lawyer will use to make one "just for you").

Won't.  Not can't.  I do not give free legal advice over the internet.... besides you may want to go see a lawyer.

Why?  So I can pay him for "protection"?

Which part of "a lawyer already looked at it" did you miss?  Again, a lawyer said the one I used was adequate in his opinion.  I have no regrets having used a free trust from the internet and will continue using the same one that I have been.

OP: See, it never ends.  You decide what is the best route for you.

You're not paying for "protection".  After the consultation and s/he tells you what made him/her go WTF if your original post, you'd pay (maybe $200 at most) to have it corrected.  

Go back and read my posts.  Very carefully.  I have never said what is the issue in your post.  You are making assumptions to what it is.  

I've tried to help.  Do what you will with that.

On a side note. There's a handful of us watching nolo's suits to see what the DOJ is going to do.  Are they going to challenge the trusts in an attempt to show the trust is invalid, so the person was actually in possession of a MG they could not legally possess even if the stamp was valid?  Remember, the ATF verfied there was ink on paper.  They did not verify the trust complied with the state law it was formed under.

So what exactly is going on with the trusts and the DOJ? Now that you mention it I remember a year or so ago the DOJ coming out and challenging the trusts saying something along the lines of trusts were a form of loop hole and looking to put a stop to trusts.

Not the DOJ, the ATF (stemming from an Exective Order). Docket Number ATF 41P would make it so CLEOs still need to sign off on NFA items regardless of whether or not you have a trust as well as requiring every person listed on the trust to submit fingerprints and photographs. If you live in a county where the CLEO is opposed to NFA, it would be a defacto ban on NFA items - one of the reasons why trusts are so widely used.

The ATF keeps pushing back the rule change because they are required to respond to each qualified comment about the change in writing, and more than 9,000 comments were submitted so it has taken a while to get through it. The final ruling was supposed to happen last summer, then got pushed to January 2015, and was pushed back again to May 2015 and remains there currently.

Long story short... If you're going to get an NFA item via trust, do it ASAP because any paperwork submitted prior to the ruling being released will be treated under the old laws. EForm Form 1s are at around 30 days right now, and paper Form 4s are somewhere from 4-6 months.

Anyone know of any good engravers around the Birmingham area?

Talk to Mr. Ken Dowdy. His office is in Hoover.

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Don't mean to hijack the Birmingham theme to this thread, but does anyone have any recomendations on a Trust lawyer around the Montgomery, Auburn, Opelika area?