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Posted: 8/20/2015 4:04:21 PM EDT
Hello
My step daughter currently resides in MPLS. My queation is are private ftf pistol sales legal in MN? She is selling her fathers pistols as he has passed. I know here in TX its no problem.
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 4:26:18 PM EDT
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Good to go in MN.
Is she willing to give MN Arfcommers first dibs?
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 9:55:20 PM EDT
[#2]
Ok thanks and yes she said she will let me know makes and models and Ill shoot you a pm.
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 10:16:27 PM EDT
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She should require a permit to purchase or permit carry as proof of ability to own firearms.
She should make out a bill of sale for each transaction.
She is responsible for up to 1 yr after the transaction.
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 12:13:02 AM EDT
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Thanks for the info. Liable for one year, that is crazy. I haven't lived there since the 90's that must be a new law. Here in TX you just ask if they are prohibited to possess and you have done your due diligence by law.  
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 11:50:26 PM EDT
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Private sales

Subd. 14 is the part that covers private sales to unknown parties.  As long as the party that she is selling to is not a prohibited person at the time of sale it would not be an issue.  That is why most people would advise asking for a permit to carry or permit to purchase.
Link Posted: 8/22/2015 12:12:29 AM EDT
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I'd like a pm as well.
Link Posted: 8/22/2015 12:26:52 AM EDT
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"Liability" law

Subd. 1f is the portion that covers the "liability" that people refer to.  It is only applicable if you are knowingly selling to a prohibited person or if you didn't follow Subd. 14 of the link I posted earlier.  And even then it is only an issue if it is used in the commission of a crime in the one year time frame.  A bill of sale and seeing a PTP or PTC will cover a private sale.
Link Posted: 8/24/2015 9:53:13 PM EDT
[#8]
Thanks everyone for your help.
Link Posted: 8/25/2015 12:09:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/26/2015 11:53:11 AM EDT
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She should require a permit to purchase or permit carry as proof of ability to own firearms.
She should make out a bill of sale for each transaction.
She is responsible for up to 1 yr after the transaction. your leaving out important information
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She should require a permit to purchase or permit carry as proof of ability to own firearms.
She should make out a bill of sale for each transaction.
She is responsible for up to 1 yr after the transaction. your leaving out important information


Private sales liability during the 1st year is not quite that simple. Keeping good records of all sales is important. And asking questions of the person you are selling to is just as important.

Here is the exact wording: and notice the use of "and if"

Subd. 1f.Gross misdemeanor; transferring firearm without background check.

A person, other than a federally licensed firearms dealer, who transfers a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon to another without complying with the transfer requirements of section 624.7132, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor if the transferee possesses or uses the weapon within one year after the transfer in furtherance of a felony crime of violence, and if:

(1) the transferee was prohibited from possessing the weapon under section 624.713 at the time of the transfer; or

(2) it was reasonably foreseeable at the time of the transfer that the transferee was likely to use or possess the weapon in furtherance of a felony crime of violence.


The key here is that you need to comply with MN 624.7132 regardless.

Subd. 14.Transfer to unknown party.

(a) No person shall transfer a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon to another who is not personally known to the transferor unless the proposed transferee presents evidence of identity to the transferor.

(b) No person who is not personally known to the transferor shall become a transferee of a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon unless the person presents evidence of identity to the transferor.

(c) The evidence of identity shall contain the name, residence address, date of birth, and photograph of the proposed transferee; must be made or issued by or under the authority of the United States government, a state, a political subdivision of a state, a foreign government, a political subdivision of a foreign government, an international governmental or an international quasi-governmental organization; and must be of a type commonly accepted for the purpose of identification of individuals.

(d) A person who becomes a transferee of a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon in violation of this subdivision is guilty of a misdemeanor.
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 12:15:35 AM EDT
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Even if you wrote up a bill of sale? Jeeesh.
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 10:42:32 AM EDT
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Even if you wrote up a bill of sale? Jeeesh.
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She should require a permit to purchase or permit carry as proof of ability to own firearms.
She should make out a bill of sale for each transaction.
She is responsible for up to 1 yr after the transaction.

Even if you wrote up a bill of sale? Jeeesh.


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