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Posted: 5/12/2015 9:45:32 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/12/2015 10:06:14 PM EDT

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I spoke with a few offices of conference committee members this morning. Please call and email them ASAP to voice your support for this well-written legislation that's been well-supported on both sides of the aisle.

Per the aide in one representative's office, the conf committees (all of them) are waiting for updated budget targets. After that, they can propose their final budgets within each bill, complete any required policy wording changes (this is our primary risk area today), and bring them back to the house and senate floors for final votes.

Time is ticking for them all, and they'll all be meeting daily through the weekend since session ends next Monday. A lot to get done in very little time - the waiting is almost over so let's make one last BIG push with the folks who can help us get this on Dayton's desk!!

The aide in Senator Latz's office confirmed that while the Senator is not a huge fan of the pro-2A parts, he has gone so far as talking directly with the NRA to get what he'll need to be comfortable to work through keeping it in.

Here's the contact info for every member of the conference committee. Please call and politely thank them for their work and ask for their continued support of the pro-2A components of the bill.

Conference Committee Members:

Representative Tony Cornish (R-23B)

651-296-4240

Representative Brian Johnson (R-32A)

651-296-4346

Representative Jerry Hertaus (R-33A)

651-296-9188

Representative Debra Hilstrom (DFL-40B)

651-296-3709

Representative Kathy Lohmer (R-39B)

651-296-4244

Senator Ron Latz (DFL-46)

651-297-8065

Senator Bobby Joe Champion (DFL-59)

651-296-9246

Senator D. Scott Dibble (DFL-61)

651-296-4191

Senator David H Senjem (R-25)

651-296-3903

Senator Chris A. Eaton (D-40)

651-296-8869

Let's make it happen everyone! Don't assume someone else will do it for you - make the calls today!!

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Posted: 5/12/2015 10:25:22 PM EDT

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I will be shocked if this survives to signing.

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Posted: 5/12/2015 10:58:59 PM EDT

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Too much going on to let it die

Posted: 5/13/2015 12:31:33 AM EDT

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Posted: 5/13/2015 12:32:20 AM EDT

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From the NRA's website: Minnesota: Your Second Amendment Rights Might be Lost to Political Barter I think they are being a bit dramatic, but it is best to contact our reps anyway.

Posted: 5/13/2015 12:45:58 AM EDT

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From the NRA's website: Minnesota: Your Second Amendment Rights Might be Lost to Political Barter I think they are being a bit dramatic, but it is best to contact our reps anyway.

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Agreed. Keep the pressure up. It's not over until it's over.

Posted: 5/13/2015 12:47:32 AM EDT

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From the NRA's website: Minnesota: Your Second Amendment Rights Might be Lost to Political Barter I think they are being a bit dramatic, but it is best to contact our reps anyway.

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NRA dramatic? Never!

Posted: 5/13/2015 8:19:55 AM EDT

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Positives waves against your negative waves.

Posted: 5/13/2015 8:56:18 AM EDT

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I will be shocked if this survives to signing.

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Positives waves against your negative waves.

Posted: 5/13/2015 9:58:42 AM EDT

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From the NRA's website: Minnesota: Your Second Amendment Rights Might be Lost to Political Barter I think they are being a bit dramatic, but it is best to contact our reps anyway.

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Agree fully. Keep up the pressure.

Posted: 5/13/2015 10:37:23 AM EDT

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From the NRA's website: Minnesota: Your Second Amendment Rights Might be Lost to Political Barter I think they are being a bit dramatic, but it is best to contact our reps anyway.

Agree fully. Keep up the pressure.

Lucero and Kiffmeyer are my Rep and Senator. I'll drop 'em a note of encouragement to keep up the good fight...

Posted: 5/13/2015 7:23:57 PM EDT

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Its all about the budget at this point and the Senate is not going to convene until that is a bit closer.

The latest positioning by the DFL controlled Senate means they have less and less power to change policy at 11:59.

But, they are still quite a bit apart on funding....

Posted: 5/14/2015 8:00:37 PM EDT

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Sen. Latz says for the policy in this bill to stay in the bill, the house has to accept felon voting restoration as well....be interesting to see which side blinks on this one.

how bad does the house want silencers, capital notification, no confiscation, CCW reciprocity change???......

Posted: 5/14/2015 10:00:38 PM EDT

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If the 2a crowd wants felons to have restoration of their gun rights, why would you block the restoration of their voting rights as well

Posted: 5/15/2015 1:12:29 AM EDT

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Posted: 5/15/2015 4:08:21 AM EDT

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Personally.... If they cant be trusted with guns and voting g they should still be in jail.

Posted: 5/15/2015 4:22:50 AM EDT

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Personally.... If they cant be trusted with guns and voting g they should still be in jail.

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If the 2a crowd wants felons to have restoration of their gun rights, why would you block the restoration of their voting rights as well

Personally.... If they cant be trusted with guns and voting g they should still be in jail.

Absolutely.

Posted: 5/15/2015 8:49:51 AM EDT

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If the 2a crowd wants felons to have restoration of their gun rights, why would you block the restoration of their voting rights as well

Personally.... If they cant be trusted with guns and voting g they should still be in jail.

This. I've tried to argue the point before, but the Thick Blue Wallers and the NIMBY's are almost as bad as SJW's when it comes to shouting down any opposition no matter how logical.

Posted: 5/16/2015 1:11:00 AM EDT

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The suspense is killing me here.

Posted: 5/16/2015 11:18:03 AM EDT

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Then you read stuff like this:

"Legislative leaders in St. Paul might defer consideration of hefty tax cuts and transportation funding until next year."

NEXT. YEAR.

Posted: 5/16/2015 2:00:56 PM EDT

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They are still hammering out the budget deal. Sounds like they now have a tentative agreement between the house and senate but now Dayton wants more money for the teachers union er education.

Posted: 5/16/2015 4:36:24 PM EDT

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ACTION ALERT

The bipartisan gun rights legislation that has passed both houses by a huge majority is being held up in the conference committee over unrelated items.

Please take a few minutes and call Speaker Kurt Daudt (R) and Senate Majority Leader Tom Bakk (DFL) and tell them that your rights aren't up for negotiation - send the bi-partisan pro-gun bills to the Governor for his signature.

Speaker Daudt: 651-296-5364
Senator Bakk: 651-296-8881

From Rob Doar A leader of MNGOPAC, former vice president of GOCRA: "Please call, email, and share. Trust me, it matters, and is needed right away."

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NRA funded suppressor shoot to reach out to the media and legislators.
http://www.nranews.com/cam/video/cam-and-company-2015-chris-w-cox-josh-waldron-education-the-key-to-suppressor-success/list/recent-segments

5:50PM From GOCRA: Finally, it looks like the public safety conference committee is going to meet...after the conference committee on license plate readers. Could be another long night.
We have heard that the stalemate on felon voting has been broken, so we are asking all parties to move quickly to pass the agreed-upon Second Amendment language.

Posted: 5/16/2015 6:05:32 PM EDT

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The governor may call a special session next week. Link

Randy

Posted: 5/16/2015 11:40:44 PM EDT

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This is nice.
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05/16/2015 Meeting scheduled At the Call of the Chair in Room 400S State Office Bldg.

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Posted: 5/17/2015 12:23:56 AM EDT

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Randy: Your link seems to be broken. http://www.senate.leg.state.mn.us/schedule/unofficial_action.php?ls=89&bill_type=SF&bill_number=0878&ss_number=0&ss_year=2015 worked for me though. You had an extra space and a missing colon after http.

May 16th 10:50 PM Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance
UPDATE: The public safety omnibus conference committee, which may finally take up our bill tonight, will meet at around 11:30.

But first, we get to wait for SF86 (license plate readers) to be heard in the same room. MN State Representative Dan Schoen is the warmup act, working the crowd, and even threatening to sing a duet with data privacy advocate Rich Neumeister (http://opensecretsmn.blogspot.com/).

It's another wild Saturday night of Second Amendment activism! — with Simon Gottlieb, Danny Schoen and Tony Cornish.

11:15 PM Andrew Rothman The duet never materialized; the 10:30 LPR hearing started promptly at 11:00 PM.

11:20 PM Minnesota Gun Owners Political Action Committee

YOU DID IT!
The Speaker and Senate Majority Leader heard loud and clear all evening long from PAC supporters that our Second Amendment rights aren't up for negotiation.
The Conference Committee is expected to reconvene later tonight - or tomorrow morning - and pass through the Omnibus Public Safety Bill with all gun rights provisions intact.
We'll provide further updates as the evening (morning?) progresses. MNGOPAC Political Director Rob Doar is at the State Capitol ensuring that the pro-gun provisions stick.

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Minnesota Gun Owners Political Action Committee
www.mngopac.org
www.facebook.com/mngopac

Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance
www.gocra.org
www.facebook.com/gocra

Posted: 5/17/2015 2:01:28 AM EDT

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Well hopefully. It'd be funny if on the eve I start my journey back to a free state we actually get this done

Posted: 5/17/2015 2:11:00 AM EDT

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We Won! The Public Safety / Judiciary Omnibus policy and finance bill just passed committee on a 9-1 vote, including all 5 of our supported gun bills!

Now the bills will get their final votes in the two Houses and then move to the governor's desk.

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May 17th Committee still going after midnight.

12:30 AM Rob Doar: "Senator Champion upset that house bill format beat senate ?#?mnleg? policy and financial omnibus."

12:40 AM Rob Doar: "Sen. Champion working hard to try and find foul play for policy he lost. ?#?mnleg?"

1:08 AM Rob Doar: "Budget items unanimously accepted. Onto policy ?#?mnleg?"

1:15 AM Rob Doar: "Sen. Champion moving to remove "NRA provisions". ?#?mnleg?"

Vote to remove suppressors from omnibus: ?#?mnleg?
No:
Cornish
Latz
Eaton
Hillstrom
Johnson
Lohmer
Senjem
Yes:
Champion
Dibble

1:20 AM Rob Doar: "We're all done. Public Safety omnibus on way to ?#?mnleg? houses for confirmation then on to governor."

Posted: 5/17/2015 2:48:02 AM EDT

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Per GOCRA, the bill has passed committee. Their update says after a brief stop in the house and senate for approval, it will be off to governor mumbles desk.
Edit:beat

Posted: 5/17/2015 2:49:32 AM EDT

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The conference committee just passed SF878, including ALL of our pro-2A provisions:
The next step will be a brief stop in the House and the Senate, where the bills should pass again with no problem.
Then, it's off to the governor.
Have you emailed him yet?
gocra.mn/DaytonSuppressor
Our bills included in the omnibus are:
* Suppressor Legalization
* Emergency Powers
* Capitol Carry Notification
* Interstate Sales of Long Guns
* Carry Reciprocity
Support the group that supports your rights at gocra.mn/join

The vote is expect Sunday (later today).

Posted: 5/17/2015 9:44:30 AM EDT

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Latz voted to keep suppressors in? Holy shit this just might happen.

Posted: 5/17/2015 10:11:28 AM EDT

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So just up to the governor? I mailed him this am and will again this afternoon

Posted: 5/17/2015 10:14:30 AM EDT

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Alright. This should be our hardest push yet... Another round of emails sent from myself and girlfriend. Let's finish strong!

Posted: 5/17/2015 11:19:55 AM EDT

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The bill has not passed the House or the Senate in its current form. It has to go back to each for approval prior to the governor getting it. When it is this late and this big, things happen quickly.

Randy

Posted: 5/17/2015 1:54:50 PM EDT

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QFT!!!

Just finished my latest go-round...

Posted: 5/17/2015 5:17:58 PM EDT

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Another batch of emails sent.

Posted: 5/17/2015 5:25:36 PM EDT

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2nd email sent to Gov. Dayton.

Everybody keep corresponding! Let's kindly let him know how many people support 2nd amendment rights in this state.

Hopefully he will change his mind on suppressors by the time the bill hits his desk.

Posted: 5/17/2015 7:01:16 PM EDT

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Here we go people.... 878 is on the floor!!

Posted: 5/17/2015 7:27:08 PM EDT

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Here is to hoping!!!

Keep it up!

Posted: 5/17/2015 7:39:32 PM EDT

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Five of us are in the audience. I don't see any of the opposition present.

I am live blogging on my armed polite society thread.

http://www.senate.mn/media/flashvideo.php Senate media coverage.

Posted: 5/17/2015 7:46:10 PM EDT

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Keep us updated please

Posted: 5/17/2015 8:01:48 PM EDT

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vote: 55-9 in favor.

Posted: 5/17/2015 8:02:08 PM EDT

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^ This.

Posted: 5/17/2015 8:30:26 PM EDT

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Discussion in the House on SF 878 live

House floor session - part 4
Sunday, May. 17, 2015 7:19 PM

Click Here

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/htv/schedule.asp

Posted: 5/17/2015 8:51:01 PM EDT

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Keeping my fingers crossed for yall. I am watching the live stream from the above posters link.

ETA, does not seem like felon voting is going well.

Posted: 5/17/2015 8:53:01 PM EDT

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We will win this part no problem with a veto proof majority. I think the game is ours. The governor is bluffing on veto anyway.

Posted: 5/17/2015 8:55:54 PM EDT

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Do not jinx this until it's done. Anything can still happen. Rep Cornish is doing an OUTSTANDING job of standing up for the suppressor matter.

Posted: 5/17/2015 8:58:28 PM EDT

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Keep in mind that the only thing that can happen is people voting yes or no. This came back from conference, no amendments are possible. This is mostly grand standing and theater.