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Posted: 8/20/2016 10:40:25 AM EDT
People complain about politics and the parties.  They always say why vote, because both parties are the same; full of crooks and thieves and people just running the system.  Why vote because it won’t matter.

I heard myself saying that just the other day and it gave me pause to stop and think of that’s really true.  Back in the day, my father-in-law taught me a way to help decide about which side of a question to come down on.  Its’ called the Ben Franklin.  He would draw two columns and head each one with the decision to me made; vote left or vote right.  Let’s see how this did.

I decided to write into each column the groups that supported that particular party to give me a sense as to which one represented the true American spirit.  Here’s what I came up with:

Republican:

Conservatives
Constitutionalists
Pro-Military
Pro-2A




Democrat                                                    

Progressives                                                  
Liberals                                                          
Socialists                                                      
Communists  
Secularists
Atheists                                                      
Leftists
Subversives
LGBT
Globalists
Unionists/Labor
Black Lives Matter
Hands Up Don’t Shoot
Radicals
Racists
Open Borders
Antimilitarists
AARP
NAACP
Anti 2A
Link Posted: 8/20/2016 10:43:12 AM EDT
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I'm a one topic voter,  if you are pro gun then you get my vote.
Link Posted: 8/20/2016 11:09:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2016 12:00:01 PM EDT
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Don't forget, the Democrats have always had a weak foreign policy.
Hence the need to fund terrorist organizations (who plan attacks like 9/11) and then go to war w/ them to appear stronger.
All the while funneling cash from other terrorist supporters for their campaign and party politics.

But ,I guess taxing the working class to fund programs which allow urban dwellers to not be bothered by things like work, all the while buying themselves more votes, to be reason enough.
Link Posted: 8/20/2016 12:45:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2016 1:16:09 PM EDT
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I'd vote for a gay black person IF they supported the 2a 100%, constitutional carry, lowering my fed taxes also strengthening the boarders to get illegals out, and reduce welfare recipients and also making welfare and state aid harder to acquire by requiring drug tests each month and a surprise one now and then. I also support forcing a lie detector test to complete the application for it as well.

I know it's a lot to ask but if they can meet most if not some of those they got my vote.

I don't care of race, sexuality, or gender when it comes to this.

I also wish it wasn't all about how much money you have or have raised during the campaign. If Joe Schmo down the road has good ideas, and wished to run, I wish it was more fair for him and equal across the board in that manor.
Link Posted: 8/20/2016 6:47:48 PM EDT
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2A All The Way.
Link Posted: 8/20/2016 6:51:29 PM EDT
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Let me see.....

I'm basically conservative

Pro 2A

Atheist more or less (think the idea of a deity is absolutely stupid bullshit brainwashed into people as children) and children should not be exposed to religion until they are in their teens.
My wife is a devout Catholic, so yes can tolerate you religious types if you don't push your crap on me

Am sick and tired of a 40 year pro homo agenda polluting our country as some type of normal behavior.

Prefer if all the junkies kill themselves off (The only good junkie is a dead junkie).  And, yes, I mean that!

Oppose state sponsored gambling like lotteries, etc.

Oppose indian casinos (and fuck the "native American" rubbish.  I'm native American - I was born in this country).

Refuse to refer to blacks as "African-Americans" unless they were born or lived in an African country.

There isn't a chance in Hell I would vote for the criminal Clintons or that fucking COMMUNIST Sanders.  (The only good commie is a dead commie).

I am happy to vote for Trump and take my chances.  Until Trump the last person I wanted to vote FOR was Ronald Reagan.







Link Posted: 8/20/2016 8:20:30 PM EDT
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I believe if you're truly proud to be an American and respect the principles that our founders established that made us the best country in the world the choice seems pretty clear cut.
Link Posted: 8/21/2016 6:43:46 AM EDT
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Rarely does a political candidate hold 100% of the values that an individual voter has. As such it is almost always a compromise when it comes to voting. More often then not it is a lesser of two evils.

One particular problem is that Conservatives tend to be more individualistic than Progressive's. Democrats tend to vote as a collective block to push their ideology.

This election will probably come down a majority of the voters voting for the candidate they hate the least.

Edit to add: I won't be surprised if this election turns out with a popular vote going to Trump but Election College going to Hillary. If that happens it will be interesting to see how the public takes it there is a landslide vote for Trump yet Hillary still wins.
Link Posted: 8/21/2016 8:06:10 AM EDT
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The idea behind this post was to essentially assemble and expose the list of those who support the opposition. When you get down to it, you don't realize how many groups want to deviate from the current constitution.   It's not a pretty list, is it.  Candidates on our side might have one or two dings against them if they support this group or another but the bulk of those who support a complete deviation from our current constitution, support the upheaval of our current beliefs we hold dear and want to destroy America as we know it are firmly behind the "other guy".   Sometimes it's not who you want to vote "for" but who to vote "against" because of who supports them.
Link Posted: 8/21/2016 9:33:21 AM EDT
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Going back and looking at your lists.  I see the point you are trying to make, but you are generalizing way too much.

Just because someone doesn't want to waste blood and treasure on stupid crusades doesn't mean they oppose protecting the U.S. and its constitution.  The Iraq war was a cruel joke from day one.

Just because someone doesn't believe in a god and thinks it is silly superstition doesn't mean they want to change the constitution or remove "God" from money, schools, or anything else.

I am disappointed with the so-called "conservatives" that didn't do anything to stop Obama's bullshit the past 8 years.  They are just as complicit as the democrat/communists... perhaps more so because they pretended to oppose Obama so they would be elected.

THROW THE BUMS OUT!

Link Posted: 8/21/2016 11:10:17 PM EDT
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People complain about politics and the parties.  They always say why vote, because both parties are the same; full of crooks and thieves and people just running the system.  Why vote because it won’t matter.

I heard myself saying that just the other day and it gave me pause to stop and think of that’s really true.  Back in the day, my father-in-law taught me a way to help decide about which side of a question to come down on.  Its’ called the Ben Franklin.  He would draw two columns and head each one with the decision to me made; vote left or vote right.  Let’s see how this did.

I decided to write into each column the groups that supported that particular party to give me a sense as to which one represented the true American spirit.  Here’s what I came up with:

Republican:

Conservatives
Constitutionalists
Pro-Military
Pro-2A




Democrat                                                    

Progressives                                                  
Liberals                                                          
Socialists                                                      
Communists  
Secularists
Atheists                                                      
Leftists
Subversives
LGBT
Globalists
Unionists/Labor
Black Lives Matter
Hands Up Don’t Shoot
Radicals
Racists
Open Borders
Antimilitarists
AARP
NAACP
Anti 2A
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Dude- it's Hillary! Is there really that much of a question?
Link Posted: 8/21/2016 11:13:24 PM EDT
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People complain about politics and the parties.  They always say why vote, because both parties are the same; full of crooks and thieves and people just running the system.  Why vote because it won’t matter.

I heard myself saying that just the other day and it gave me pause to stop and think of that’s really true.  Back in the day, my father-in-law taught me a way to help decide about which side of a question to come down on.  Its’ called the Ben Franklin.  He would draw two columns and head each one with the decision to me made; vote left or vote right.  Let’s see how this did.

I decided to write into each column the groups that supported that particular party to give me a sense as to which one represented the true American spirit.  Here’s what I came up with:

Republican:

Conservatives
Constitutionalists
Pro-Military
Pro-2A




Democrat                                                    

Progressives                                                  
Liberals                                                          
Socialists                                                      
Communists  
Secularists
Atheists                                                      
Leftists
Subversives
LGBT
Globalists
Unionists/Labor
Black Lives Matter
Hands Up Don’t Shoot
Radicals
Racists
Open Borders
Antimilitarists
AARP
NAACP
Anti 2A
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Dude- it's anyone but Hillary! Is there really that much of a question?
Link Posted: 8/21/2016 11:25:50 PM EDT
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No, but there are some out there who refuse to vote for Trump just like there were a lot of voters who refused to vote for Scott Brown in NH.  He lost and that idiot Shaheen was elected.  Boy, that taught him a lesson, didn't it?  I just wanted to point out just who supports the democrats in the upcoming election, if Hillary wasn't repulsive enough.

Rome
Link Posted: 8/22/2016 1:53:33 AM EDT
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Trump #1!!!
Link Posted: 8/22/2016 6:35:47 AM EDT
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No, but there are some out there who refuse to vote for Trump just like there were a lot of voters who refused to vote for Scott Brown in NH.  He lost and that idiot Shaheen was elected.  Boy, that taught him a lesson, didn't it?  I just wanted to point out just who supports the democrats in the upcoming election, if Hillary wasn't repulsive enough.

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quite a few right wingers hate trump. they think hes a retard, which he basically is. plenty of people at my work who swing right are voting for Hillary out of spite. many times in a vote like this, nobody is looking into the future, they're just looking to fuck someone over, and their followers. they have zero clue or care of the aftermath, until it hits them.

union voters who pushed for malloy are a great example
Link Posted: 8/22/2016 8:18:59 AM EDT
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People complain about politics and the parties.  They always say why vote, because both parties are the same; full of crooks and thieves and people just running the system.  Why vote because it won’t matter.

I heard myself saying that just the other day and it gave me pause to stop and think of that’s really true.  Back in the day, my father-in-law taught me a way to help decide about which side of a question to come down on.  Its’ called the Ben Franklin.  He would draw two columns and head each one with the decision to me made; vote left or vote right.  Let’s see how this did.

I decided to write into each column the groups that supported that particular party to give me a sense as to which one represented the true American spirit.  Here’s what I came up with:

Republican:

Conservatives
Constitutionalists
Pro-Military
Pro-2A




Democrat                                                    

Progressives                                                  
Liberals                                                          
Socialists                                                      
Communists  
Secularists
Atheists                                                      
Leftists
Subversives
LGBT
Globalists
Unionists/Labor
Black Lives Matter
Hands Up Don’t Shoot
Radicals
Racists
Open Borders
Antimilitarists
AARP
NAACP
Anti 2A


Dude- it's Hillary! Is there really that much of a question?


Exactly!  How is this even debatable?  I know people can over complicate things but for the love of fuck, this isn't one of them.  Jesus people, WTF?
Link Posted: 8/22/2016 9:43:53 AM EDT
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Yep, know several who normally vote Republican but who will not be voting for Trump. They hate Hillary but think Trump is a clown show, and would be "scary" as they repeatedly put it as President.
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Yep, know several who normally vote Republican but who will not be voting for Trump. They hate Hillary but think Trump is a clown show, and would be "scary" as they repeatedly put it as President.
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quite a few right wingers hate trump. they think hes a retard, which he basically is.

Yep, know several who normally vote Republican but who will not be voting for Trump. They hate Hillary but think Trump is a clown show, and would be "scary" as they repeatedly put it as President.


Those assholes who vote for Hillary because they dislike Trump are retarded. If she gets in the country will NEVER be the same again. She will be appointing 3 Supreme Court Justices and they will effectively gut the 1st and 2nd Amendments for sure.

Trump needs to calm down, explain his plan, announce his team and stop getting baited into Twitter wars.

Ross Perot sounded good at first but toward the election he got whackier and blew it for himself and the Republicans. If Trump can do the opposite he has a very good shot.
Link Posted: 8/22/2016 10:47:38 AM EDT
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Those assholes who vote for Hillary because they dislike Trump are retarded. If she gets in the country will NEVER be the same again. She will be appointing 3 Supreme Court Justices and they will effectively gut the 1st and 2nd Amendments for sure.

Trump needs to calm down, explain his plan, announce his team and stop getting baited into Twitter wars.

Ross Perot sounded good at first but toward the election he got whackier and blew it for himself and the Republicans. If Trump can do the opposite he has a very good shot.
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quite a few right wingers hate trump. they think hes a retard, which he basically is.

Yep, know several who normally vote Republican but who will not be voting for Trump. They hate Hillary but think Trump is a clown show, and would be "scary" as they repeatedly put it as President.


Those assholes who vote for Hillary because they dislike Trump are retarded. If she gets in the country will NEVER be the same again. She will be appointing 3 Supreme Court Justices and they will effectively gut the 1st and 2nd Amendments for sure.

Trump needs to calm down, explain his plan, announce his team and stop getting baited into Twitter wars.

Ross Perot sounded good at first but toward the election he got whackier and blew it for himself and the Republicans. If Trump can do the opposite he has a very good shot.

trump will lose this all on his own. just wait until the debates. on one side you have a lying sack of shit, who can debate and complete a sentence, and on the other side you have trump, who cant.
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trump will lose this all on his own. just wait until the debates. on one side you have a lying sack of shit, who can debate and complete a sentence, and on the other side you have trump, who cant.
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quite a few right wingers hate trump. they think hes a retard, which he basically is.

Yep, know several who normally vote Republican but who will not be voting for Trump. They hate Hillary but think Trump is a clown show, and would be "scary" as they repeatedly put it as President.


Those assholes who vote for Hillary because they dislike Trump are retarded. If she gets in the country will NEVER be the same again. She will be appointing 3 Supreme Court Justices and they will effectively gut the 1st and 2nd Amendments for sure.

Trump needs to calm down, explain his plan, announce his team and stop getting baited into Twitter wars.

Ross Perot sounded good at first but toward the election he got whackier and blew it for himself and the Republicans. If Trump can do the opposite he has a very good shot.

trump will lose this all on his own. just wait until the debates. on one side you have a lying sack of shit, who can debate and complete a sentence, and on the other side you have trump, who cant.



A lying sack of shit is one thing.  A fucking traitor is another.  Clinton is both!  The choice is simple.  If Clinton is elected this country is FUCKING FINISHED!


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A lying sack of shit is one thing.  A fucking traitor is another.  Clinton is both!  The choice is simple.  If Clinton is elected this country is FUCKING FINISHED!


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quite a few right wingers hate trump. they think hes a retard, which he basically is.

Yep, know several who normally vote Republican but who will not be voting for Trump. They hate Hillary but think Trump is a clown show, and would be "scary" as they repeatedly put it as President.


Those assholes who vote for Hillary because they dislike Trump are retarded. If she gets in the country will NEVER be the same again. She will be appointing 3 Supreme Court Justices and they will effectively gut the 1st and 2nd Amendments for sure.

Trump needs to calm down, explain his plan, announce his team and stop getting baited into Twitter wars.

Ross Perot sounded good at first but toward the election he got whackier and blew it for himself and the Republicans. If Trump can do the opposite he has a very good shot.

trump will lose this all on his own. just wait until the debates. on one side you have a lying sack of shit, who can debate and complete a sentence, and on the other side you have trump, who cant.



A lying sack of shit is one thing.  A fucking traitor is another.  Clinton is both!  The choice is simple.  If Clinton is elected this country is FUCKING FINISHED!



its simple for you and i, but not half the other right wing voters. many just hate trump because hes trump
Link Posted: 8/22/2016 11:31:30 AM EDT
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Those assholes who vote for Hillary because they dislike Trump are retarded.
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Those assholes who vote for Hillary because they dislike Trump are retarded.

That is, in major part, caused by your following statement.
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Trump needs to calm down, explain his plan, announce his team and stop getting baited into Twitter wars.

Trump is his own worst enemy. His ego is what will cost him the election. His ego causes him to go off script and off teleprompter and to make idiotic postings to Twitter. He and his campaign HANDS the ammo to the MSM who is trying its hardest to find anything to beat Trump about the head with.
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I am disappointed with the so-called "conservatives" that didn't do anything to stop Obama's bullshit the past 8 years.  They are just as complicit as the democrat/communists... perhaps more so because they pretended to oppose Obama so they would be elected.

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Yup, they could have kicked him in the balls, instead......
Link Posted: 8/23/2016 6:56:12 AM EDT
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It won't be trump undoing this election. This election was wrapped up before it even started. Hillary was winning this against anyone the gop put up there. It's what the country wants so it's what they get. Keep your head down and be ready for the ride.
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