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Posted: 7/26/2014 12:08:20 PM EDT

Anyone in Bedford co. get a CHP? How long did it take? Anyone get denied? Thanks
Took an online course, took application to courthouse. Waited...............couple weeks later it came in the mail. It was even a little plastic sleeve. Feel much better concealed carrying than I did open carrying. Never had any problems, just don`t like people knowing my buisness. But, when I did o.c. I don`t think anyone even noticed.

Posted: 7/26/2014 2:31:38 PM EDT

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All of va is shall issue, which I've taken to mean if you aren't prohibited from owning a firearm, you'll be approved.

Posted: 7/26/2014 3:38:53 PM EDT

[#2]

The only way someone is getting denied, is if they don't qualify under the law. The county doesn't get any discretion in the matter.

Posted: 7/27/2014 11:48:15 AM EDT

[#3]

It took me 5 business days from dropping off my paperwork until it was in my mailbox?

Posted: 7/30/2014 8:44:25 AM EDT

[#4]

Can you still present a hunting license as your gun safety course requirement, or do you have to take a gun safety course to get your concealed license now?

Posted: 7/30/2014 9:20:30 AM EDT

[#5]

I don't know if a hunting license is accepted, but Hunter's Safety is.

Posted: 7/30/2014 3:30:55 PM EDT

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A hunting license will work but I'm told you often have to have the clerk look in the approved certs, but I'm sure the rationale is the you took the Hunter Safety course (which may not be the case).

It's all in the interpretation, I know a lady that qualified b/c her husband is a veteran.

Posted: 7/30/2014 3:36:20 PM EDT

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OK let's hold off with any 'I heard so and so used X to get by'. While there's a provision for 'any other training which the court may accept', I wouldn't go around holding my breath. No, a hunting license may not be used, nor can you qualify based on training someone else has taken.

Let's look at the law, and see what it states:

COV 18.2-308.02

§ 18.2-308.02. Application for a concealed handgun permit; Virginia resident or domiciliary.

A. Any person 21 years of age or older may apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court of the county or city in which he resides, or if he is a member of the United States armed forces, the county or city in which he is domiciled, for a five-year permit to carry a concealed handgun. There shall be no requirement regarding the length of time an applicant has been a resident or domiciliary of the county or city. The application shall be made under oath before a notary or other person qualified to take oaths and shall be made only on a form prescribed by the Department of State Police, in consultation with the Supreme Court, requiring only that information necessary to determine eligibility for the permit. No information or documentation other than that which is allowed on the application in accordance with this section may be requested or required by the clerk or the court.

B. The court shall require proof that the applicant has demonstrated competence with a handgun and the applicant may demonstrate such competence by one of the following, but no applicant shall be required to submit to any additional demonstration of competence, nor shall any proof of demonstrated competence expire:

1. Completing any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries or a similar agency of another state;

2. Completing any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course;

3. Completing any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law-enforcement agency, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or the Department of Criminal Justice Services;

4. Completing any law-enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement;

5. Presenting evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or current military service or proof of an honorable discharge from any branch of the armed services;

6. Obtaining or previously having held a license to carry a firearm in the Commonwealth or a locality thereof, unless such license has been revoked for cause;

7. Completing any firearms training or safety course or class, including an electronic, video, or online course, conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor;

8. Completing any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualifying to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties; or

9. Completing any other firearms training which the court deems adequate.

A photocopy of a certificate of completion of any of the courses or classes; an affidavit from the instructor, school, club, organization, or group that conducted or taught such course or class attesting to the completion of the course or class by the applicant; or a copy of any document that shows completion of the course or class or evidences participation in firearms competition shall constitute evidence of qualification under this subsection.

C. The making of a materially false statement in an application under this article shall constitute perjury, punishable as provided in § 18.2-434.

D. The clerk of court shall withhold from public disclosure the applicant's name and any other information contained in a permit application or any order issuing a concealed handgun permit, except that such information shall not be withheld from any law-enforcement officer acting in the performance of his official duties or from the applicant with respect to his own information. The prohibition on public disclosure of information under this subsection shall not apply to any reference to the issuance of a concealed handgun permit in any order book before July 1, 2008; however, any other concealed handgun records maintained by the clerk shall be withheld from public disclosure.

E. An application is deemed complete when all information required to be furnished by the applicant, including the fee for a concealed handgun permit as set forth in § 18.2-308.03, is delivered to and received by the clerk of court before or concomitant with the conduct of a state or national criminal history records check.

(2013, cc. 659, 746; 2014, cc. 16, 401, 549.)

Posted: 7/30/2014 4:21:52 PM EDT

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Sadly, a hunter safety class is still accepted.

Posted: 7/30/2014 4:52:06 PM EDT

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I used a big game hunting license from New York from way back in 1969 for my requirement. I still took a class along with my wife and daughters when they got theirs.

ETA: NY required a safety course to obtain a hunting license, even back then.

Posted: 7/30/2014 5:20:05 PM EDT

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OK let's hold off with any 'I heard so and so used X to get by'. While there's a provision for 'any other training which the court may accept', I wouldn't go around holding my breath. No, a hunting license may not be used, nor can you qualify based on training someone else has taken.

Let's look at the law, and see what it states:

COV 18.2-308.02

§ 18.2-308.02. Application for a concealed handgun permit; Virginia resident or domiciliary.

A. Any person 21 years of age or older may apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court of the county or city in which he resides, or if he is a member of the United States armed forces, the county or city in which he is domiciled, for a five-year permit to carry a concealed handgun. There shall be no requirement regarding the length of time an applicant has been a resident or domiciliary of the county or city. The application shall be made under oath before a notary or other person qualified to take oaths and shall be made only on a form prescribed by the Department of State Police, in consultation with the Supreme Court, requiring only that information necessary to determine eligibility for the permit. No information or documentation other than that which is allowed on the application in accordance with this section may be requested or required by the clerk or the court.

B. The court shall require proof that the applicant has demonstrated competence with a handgun and the applicant may demonstrate such competence by one of the following, but no applicant shall be required to submit to any additional demonstration of competence, nor shall any proof of demonstrated competence expire:

1. Completing any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries or a similar agency of another state;

2. Completing any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course;

3. Completing any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law-enforcement agency, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or the Department of Criminal Justice Services;

4. Completing any law-enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement;

5. Presenting evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or current military service or proof of an honorable discharge from any branch of the armed services;

6. Obtaining or previously having held a license to carry a firearm in the Commonwealth or a locality thereof, unless such license has been revoked for cause;

7. Completing any firearms training or safety course or class, including an electronic, video, or online course, conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor;

8. Completing any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualifying to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties; or

9. Completing any other firearms training which the court deems adequate.

A photocopy of a certificate of completion of any of the courses or classes; an affidavit from the instructor, school, club, organization, or group that conducted or taught such course or class attesting to the completion of the course or class by the applicant; or a copy of any document that shows completion of the course or class or evidences participation in firearms competition shall constitute evidence of qualification under this subsection.

C. The making of a materially false statement in an application under this article shall constitute perjury, punishable as provided in § 18.2-434.

D. The clerk of court shall withhold from public disclosure the applicant's name and any other information contained in a permit application or any order issuing a concealed handgun permit, except that such information shall not be withheld from any law-enforcement officer acting in the performance of his official duties or from the applicant with respect to his own information. The prohibition on public disclosure of information under this subsection shall not apply to any reference to the issuance of a concealed handgun permit in any order book before July 1, 2008; however, any other concealed handgun records maintained by the clerk shall be withheld from public disclosure.

E. An application is deemed complete when all information required to be furnished by the applicant, including the fee for a concealed handgun permit as set forth in § 18.2-308.03, is delivered to and received by the clerk of court before or concomitant with the conduct of a state or national criminal history records check.

(2013, cc. 659, 746; 2014, cc. 16, 401, 549.)

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I'm just saying you can use a hunting license. The wife of a veteran thing is weird and IMO misguided but it happens in some localities too. It's easy to get a CHP. Some people should take some kind of class, but there are many accepted alternates. Virginia(as a whole) has never been tough on this sort of stuff.

Posted: 7/30/2014 7:57:52 PM EDT

[#11]

I just used my DD214 way back when, but I think that a specific concealed carry class is a good investment of time. The legal ramifications part alone is pretty invaluable...and it's a lot easier than what I ended up doing, which was reading this book:

The Virginia Gun Owner's Guide

...which apparently is no longer up to date.

Posted: 7/30/2014 9:40:03 PM EDT

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[I'm just saying you can use a hunting license. The wife of a veteran thing is weird and IMO misguided but it happens in some localities too. It's easy to get a CHP. Some people should take some kind of class, but there are many accepted alternates. Virginia(as a whole) has never been tough on this sort of stuff.

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If you can convince them that a hunting license is proof of having completed a hunter's safety course, maybe.

But a hunting license by itself is not on that list, nor is it proof of required training.

So no, you can't use a hunting license.

Posted: 7/30/2014 10:05:03 PM EDT

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If you can convince them that a hunting license is proof of having completed a hunter's safety course, maybe.

But a hunting license by itself is not on that list, nor is it proof of required training.

So no, you can't use a hunting license.

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[I'm just saying you can use a hunting license. The wife of a veteran thing is weird and IMO misguided but it happens in some localities too. It's easy to get a CHP. Some people should take some kind of class, but there are many accepted alternates. Virginia(as a whole) has never been tough on this sort of stuff.

If you can convince them that a hunting license is proof of having completed a hunter's safety course, maybe.

But a hunting license by itself is not on that list, nor is it proof of required training.

So no, you can't use a hunting license.

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Posted: 7/31/2014 5:34:43 AM EDT

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If you can convince them that a hunting license is proof of having completed a hunter's safety course, maybe.

But a hunting license by itself is not on that list, nor is it proof of required training.

So no, you can't use a hunting license.

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[I'm just saying you can use a hunting license. The wife of a veteran thing is weird and IMO misguided but it happens in some localities too. It's easy to get a CHP. Some people should take some kind of class, but there are many accepted alternates. Virginia(as a whole) has never been tough on this sort of stuff.

If you can convince them that a hunting license is proof of having completed a hunter's safety course, maybe.

But a hunting license by itself is not on that list, nor is it proof of required training.

So no, you can't use a hunting license.

An applicant can add that they took the required hunter safety if you want to fully oblige

. I agree with your stance as it pertains to the language, and may be in areas that are less gun friendly and more legalistic it is challenged, but I've never known anyone that submitted just a hunting license to be denied.

Posted: 7/31/2014 12:51:13 PM EDT

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OK let's hold off with any 'I heard so and so used X to get by'. While there's a provision for 'any other training which the court may accept', I wouldn't go around holding my breath. No, a hunting license may not be used, nor can you qualify based on training someone else has taken.

Let's look at the law, and see what it states:

COV 18.2-308.02

§ 18.2-308.02. Application for a concealed handgun permit; Virginia resident or domiciliary.

A. Any person 21 years of age or older may apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court of the county or city in which he resides, or if he is a member of the United States armed forces, the county or city in which he is domiciled, for a five-year permit to carry a concealed handgun. There shall be no requirement regarding the length of time an applicant has been a resident or domiciliary of the county or city. The application shall be made under oath before a notary or other person qualified to take oaths and shall be made only on a form prescribed by the Department of State Police, in consultation with the Supreme Court, requiring only that information necessary to determine eligibility for the permit. No information or documentation other than that which is allowed on the application in accordance with this section may be requested or required by the clerk or the court.

B. The court shall require proof that the applicant has demonstrated competence with a handgun and the applicant may demonstrate such competence by one of the following, but no applicant shall be required to submit to any additional demonstration of competence, nor shall any proof of demonstrated competence expire:

1. Completing any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries or a similar agency of another state;

2. Completing any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course;

3. Completing any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law-enforcement agency, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or the Department of Criminal Justice Services;

4. Completing any law-enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement;

5. Presenting evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or current military service or proof of an honorable discharge from any branch of the armed services;

6. Obtaining or previously having held a license to carry a firearm in the Commonwealth or a locality thereof, unless such license has been revoked for cause;

7. Completing any firearms training or safety course or class, including an electronic, video, or online course, conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor;

8. Completing any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualifying to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties; or

9. Completing any other firearms training which the court deems adequate.

A photocopy of a certificate of completion of any of the courses or classes; an affidavit from the instructor, school, club, organization, or group that conducted or taught such course or class attesting to the completion of the course or class by the applicant; or a copy of any document that shows completion of the course or class or evidences participation in firearms competition shall constitute evidence of qualification under this subsection.

C. The making of a materially false statement in an application under this article shall constitute perjury, punishable as provided in § 18.2-434.

D. The clerk of court shall withhold from public disclosure the applicant's name and any other information contained in a permit application or any order issuing a concealed handgun permit, except that such information shall not be withheld from any law-enforcement officer acting in the performance of his official duties or from the applicant with respect to his own information. The prohibition on public disclosure of information under this subsection shall not apply to any reference to the issuance of a concealed handgun permit in any order book before July 1, 2008; however, any other concealed handgun records maintained by the clerk shall be withheld from public disclosure.

E. An application is deemed complete when all information required to be furnished by the applicant, including the fee for a concealed handgun permit as set forth in § 18.2-308.03, is delivered to and received by the clerk of court before or concomitant with the conduct of a state or national criminal history records check.

(2013, cc. 659, 746; 2014, cc. 16, 401, 549.)

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Montgomery County took my hunting license because you have to have a hunters safety course to get it. I know it's a different county but just wanted to say it could be possible there.