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Posted: 11/5/2015 6:34:12 PM EDT
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What do Democrats really have in store for us that they keep trying to dismantle our most basic checks and balances.
There's 262,000,000 people that would say they were wrong, but they were killed by their own government in the last century. 20TH CENTURY DEMOCIDE |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 6:59:06 PM EDT
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They don't have the votes anywhere to get this even close to passed. Why even hint at it? While it won't hurt her in Madison, any rural Dem who voted for it would lose his/her seat in the next election. It's political suicide in this state right now.
No matter, start hitting up your Reps. Our fight is never finished. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 8:53:38 PM EDT
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They don't have the votes anywhere to get this even close to passed. Why even hint at it? While it won't hurt her in Madison, any rural Dem who voted for it would lose his/her seat in the next election. It's political suicide in this state right now. No matter, start hitting up your Reps. Our fight is never finished. This. Notice how every pro gun bill is passed on a voice vote in the assembly. They bargain away debate time for a voice vote so they aren't recorded as no's which keeps the NRA away. Wisconsin dems are scared shitless on the gun issue. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:49:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:13:32 PM EDT
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Come and get em, bitch.
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:33:47 PM EDT
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I expect nothing less from Madison.
Maybe they'll try to ban cheese curds. Those are bad for you too. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:54:35 PM EDT
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Come and get em, bitch. +1 |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 12:03:15 AM EDT
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I'm not worried about anything happening in the short term. But, the fact that this is being brought forward is evidence that there is a paradigm shift when it comes to the Libs and guns. Not only in our state, but nationally as well.
To my knowledge there hasn't been a epidemic of shootings in Wisconsin with so called "assault rifles". So WTF are they talking about?? What's behind this? Obama and Clinton have been very bold in their talk about making changes to the 2A, and Australian style gun control - which is confiscation. I think that gun control / confiscation is the new "gay marriage". Let me explain. First, I don't care about gay marriage. I'm talking about the Lib's using the same exact playbook on guns, that they used with gay marriage. They beat the country into submission in a matter of years. It was a coordinated effort. They demonized or shamed anyone and everything in their way. They sued, they used the media, they got people to turn against each other, they used symbolism, but most importantly they shuttered free speech. The perfect propaganda war. Why these specific Senators? Because they are immune in their districts. This is just the start. Buckle in. A shit storm is on the horizon. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 12:16:28 AM EDT
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I'm not worried about anything happening in the short term. But, the fact that this is being brought forward is evidence that there is a paradigm shift when it comes to the Libs and guns. Not only in our state, but nationally as well. To my knowledge there hasn't been a epidemic of shootings in Wisconsin with so called "assault rifles". So WTF are they talking about?? What's behind this? Obama and Clinton have been very bold in their talk about making changes to the 2A, and Australian style gun control - which is confiscation. I think that gun control / confiscation is the new "gay marriage". Let me explain. First, I don't care about gay marriage. I'm talking about the Lib's using the same exact playbook on guns, that they used with gay marriage. They beat the country into submission in a matter of years. It was a coordinated effort. They demonized or shamed anyone and everything in their way. They sued, they used the media, they got people to turn against each other, they used symbolism, but most importantly they shuttered free speech. The perfect propaganda war. Why these specific Senators? Because they are immune in their districts. This is just the start. Buckle in. A shit storm is on the horizon. There are enough pissed off people in this country already. I have little doubt that anything even remotely resembling confiscation will be the trigger of the second revolutionary war. Sadly enough, it will be fought over the EXACT same issues as the first - weapons, and taxes. Fuck em. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 1:37:18 AM EDT
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They don't have the votes anywhere to get this even close to passed. Why even hint at it? While it won't hurt her in Madison, any rural Dem who voted for it would lose his/her seat in the next election. It's political suicide in this state right now. No matter, start hitting up your Reps. Our fight is never finished. I would guess that they do it because they are from a district that is securely in Democrat hands, so they do it to keep their base happy, so they don't lose their primary to another Democrat. I'm sure they are well aware that is has zero chance of passing at this time. But it's nice that they do it, because it lets the voters know that many Democrats really are serious about gun bans, and that it's not just paranoia from the NRA. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 1:51:42 AM EDT
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As others have pointed out, locally we are pretty safe from something like this from ever passing. But inevitably when the Dems at the federal level have the votes get something like this passed we are screwed.. Stockpile all the evil rifles and mags you can. I don't think they are going to play around with another features ban. I think they will go the Australia route. Even if it gets thrown out in court (Assuming we still have a conservitive majority) the damage will be done. Remember that the bill originally proposed by Feinstein right after the Sandy Hook shootings would have added these firearms to the NFA and that alone would screw a lot of us that can't afford trusts, stamps, or get CLEIO sign off.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:48:19 AM EDT
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She was getting hammered on facebook so she took her page down.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 1:48:55 PM EDT
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Hell, they tried to make the AWB even tighter when it expired in 2004. It would have effectively banned almost everything, england style.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 1:56:15 PM EDT
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WOW! Leg Council (which is the bipartisan group of lawyers who analyze bills for the legislature) claims that the way barrel shroud is defined in the bill could ban all semiautomatic handguns with a slide that covers the barrel.
http://mediatrackers.org/wisconsin/2015/11/06/dem-gun-ban-require-confiscation-ban-pistols |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 2:04:23 PM EDT
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Dear colleagues,
After receiving feedback from some of our colleagues regarding the circulation of a preliminary draft banning semiautomatic assault weapons, the other authors of the bill and I have determined that we will work with the Legislative Reference Bureau to make some revisions to the draft bill to address some concerns that have been raised, particularly about the potential impact of LRB 3635 on our state's sporting heritage. There are some unintended oversights in the bill that we will work to correct. While LRB 3635 was not intended to impair Wisconsin's rich hunting heritage and those who annually participate in it, our state does need to have a serious and meaningful conversation about gun violence. We will be working with the Legislative Reference Bureau, Legislative Council, and others to ensure that a future bill draft corrects any drafting errors and unintended oversights to ensure more consistency with our current hunting and sporting regulations. We welcome the coming debate and appreciate the feedback we have received from our fellow legislative colleagues and our constituents. Lisa Subeck Representative Lisa Subeck 78th Assembly District State Capitol, Room 418 North P.O. Box 8953, Madison, WI 53708 (608) 266-7521 
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Posted: 11/6/2015 2:09:32 PM EDT
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Dear colleagues, After receiving feedback from some of our colleagues regarding the circulation of a preliminary draft banning semiautomatic assault weapons, the other authors of the bill and I have determined that we will work with the Legislative Reference Bureau to make some revisions to the draft bill to address some concerns that have been raised, particularly about the potential impact of LRB 3635 on our state's sporting heritage. There are some unintended oversights in the bill that we will work to correct. While LRB 3635 was not intended to impair Wisconsin's rich hunting heritage and those who annually participate in it, our state does need to have a serious and meaningful conversation about gun violence. We will be working with the Legislative Reference Bureau, Legislative Council, and others to ensure that a future bill draft corrects any drafting errors and unintended oversights to ensure more consistency with our current hunting and sporting regulations. We welcome the coming debate and appreciate the feedback we have received from our fellow legislative colleagues and our constituents. Lisa Subeck Representative Lisa Subeck 78th Assembly District State Capitol, Room 418 North P.O. Box 8953, Madison, WI 53708 (608) 266-7521 Dumbass FIB. She had to take her Facebook page down too.  It went viral with negative comments... I told her to go back to Shitcago where she came from. 
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Posted: 11/6/2015 2:11:29 PM EDT
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Dear colleagues, After receiving feedback from some of our colleagues regarding the circulation of a preliminary draft banning semiautomatic assault weapons, the other authors of the bill and I have determined that we will work with the Legislative Reference Bureau to make some revisions to the draft bill to address some concerns that have been raised, particularly about the potential impact of LRB 3635 on our state's sporting heritage. There are some unintended oversights in the bill that we will work to correct. While LRB 3635 was not intended to impair Wisconsin's rich hunting heritage and those who annually participate in it, our state does need to have a serious and meaningful conversation about gun violence. We will be working with the Legislative Reference Bureau, Legislative Council, and others to ensure that a future bill draft corrects any drafting errors and unintended oversights to ensure more consistency with our current hunting and sporting regulations. We welcome the coming debate and appreciate the feedback we have received from our fellow legislative colleagues and our constituents. Lisa Subeck Representative Lisa Subeck 78th Assembly District State Capitol, Room 418 North P.O. Box 8953, Madison, WI 53708 (608) 266-7521 I don't know what's more pathetic, the idiots that write and introduce these bills, or the dim bulbs that keep electing these idiots. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 2:37:28 PM EDT
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I don't post here often, but when I do it's a fact delivered by a sexy man:
Dear Lisa, Please leave the country or FOAD. You are a cancerous shitstain politician festering on this great state. Thank you. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:13:54 PM EDT
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To my knowledge there hasn't been a epidemic of shootings in Wisconsin with so called "assault rifles". Quote HistoryQuoted:
To my knowledge there hasn't been a epidemic of shootings in Wisconsin with so called "assault rifles". The only one I can think of is Chai Vang, and he used a Saiga, which has a standard grip. Why these specific Senators? Because they are immune in their districts. This is just the start. Buckle in. A shit storm is on the horizon. LOL, looks like they stepped into a shit storm of their own. 
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:40:42 PM EDT
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The only one I can think of is Chai Vang, and he used a Saiga, which has a standard grip. LOL, looks like they stepped into a shit storm of their own. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To my knowledge there hasn't been a epidemic of shootings in Wisconsin with so called "assault rifles". The only one I can think of is Chai Vang, and he used a Saiga, which has a standard grip. Why these specific Senators? Because they are immune in their districts. This is just the start. Buckle in. A shit storm is on the horizon. LOL, looks like they stepped into a shit storm of their own. Actually, he had an SKS, not a Saiga, but the entire discussion about him is irrelevant since he was from MN anyway, so he wouldn't have been subject to WI laws banning the purchase/transfer of said weapons. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:34:40 PM EDT
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Actually, he had an SKS, not a Saiga, but the entire discussion about him is irrelevant since he was from MN anyway, so he wouldn't have been subject to WI laws banning the purchase/transfer of said weapons. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To my knowledge there hasn't been a epidemic of shootings in Wisconsin with so called "assault rifles". The only one I can think of is Chai Vang, and he used a Saiga, which has a standard grip. Why these specific Senators? Because they are immune in their districts. This is just the start. Buckle in. A shit storm is on the horizon. LOL, looks like they stepped into a shit storm of their own. Actually, he had an SKS, not a Saiga, but the entire discussion about him is irrelevant since he was from MN anyway, so he wouldn't have been subject to WI laws banning the purchase/transfer of said weapons. Earlier reports, right after it happened, said it was a Saiga. I didn't see the correction.  Anyway, I don't think an unaltered SKS would be banned under this bill, even if he was a WI resident. Don't know much about the SKS, other than in original configuration it loads 7.62X39 with stripper clips, capacity 10. No pistol grip, neither, but do they all have the dreaded and deadly "bayonet lug"? 
BTW... The bill also bans "possession, transportation", not just purchases & transfers, with no "grandfather" clause. He might be immune from possession & transportation under the federal safe transport law if driving through WI, but the second he removed it from his vehicle to hunt, he'd lose that immunity under this proposed law, as I understand it. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:50:40 PM EDT
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Big red reset button. Yeah the one that says RESET. The Marxists fingers are right over it, knowing it will press itself soon... They are scared shitless with thoughts of what will happen. That very thing is why they want to press it on the gun issue.
Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 6:06:20 PM EDT
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Get the eyebleach out.
From Shitcago too! 
I should have made a meme... |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 8:12:32 PM EDT
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The only one I can think of is Chai Vang, and he used a Saiga, which has a standard grip. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To my knowledge there hasn't been a epidemic of shootings in Wisconsin with so called "assault rifles". The only one I can think of is Chai Vang, and he used a Saiga, which has a standard grip. There was one here in Menashsa earlier this year. Guy with an AK shot 3 people on a bridge a couple miles from my apartment. http://fox6now.com/2015/06/11/released-menasha-police-issue-final-report-on-trestle-trail-bridge-shooting/ |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:44:11 PM EDT
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Get the eyebleach out. From Shitcago too! http://i.imgur.com/2cZVRK9.jpg I should have made a meme... Wait until you hear her voice |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 12:14:00 PM EDT
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There was one here in Menashsa earlier this year. Guy with an AK shot 3 people on a bridge a couple miles from my apartment. http://fox6now.com/2015/06/11/released-menasha-police-issue-final-report-on-trestle-trail-bridge-shooting/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To my knowledge there hasn't been a epidemic of shootings in Wisconsin with so called "assault rifles". The only one I can think of is Chai Vang, and he used a Saiga, which has a standard grip. There was one here in Menashsa earlier this year. Guy with an AK shot 3 people on a bridge a couple miles from my apartment. http://fox6now.com/2015/06/11/released-menasha-police-issue-final-report-on-trestle-trail-bridge-shooting/ Um no, he used a semi auto pistol then switched to a revolver. I live just down the road as well. http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/local/2015/06/11/trestle-trail-killer-see-anything/71064794/ |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 3:57:12 PM EDT
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Um no, he used a semi auto pistol then switched to a revolver. I live just down the road as well. http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/local/2015/06/11/trestle-trail-killer-see-anything/71064794/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To my knowledge there hasn't been a epidemic of shootings in Wisconsin with so called "assault rifles". The only one I can think of is Chai Vang, and he used a Saiga, which has a standard grip. There was one here in Menashsa earlier this year. Guy with an AK shot 3 people on a bridge a couple miles from my apartment. http://fox6now.com/2015/06/11/released-menasha-police-issue-final-report-on-trestle-trail-bridge-shooting/ Um no, he used a semi auto pistol then switched to a revolver. I live just down the road as well. http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/local/2015/06/11/trestle-trail-killer-see-anything/71064794/ media-guide-to-firearms.jpg |
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Posted: 11/8/2015 11:37:31 PM EDT
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Get the eyebleach out. From Shitcago too! http://i.imgur.com/2cZVRK9.jpg I should have made a meme... She should worry more about food than "assault weapons". Idiots don't even realize that more people are killed by blunt objects than rifles let alone "assault rifles" in this country every year. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 11:26:09 AM EDT
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She should worry more about food than "assault weapons". Idiots don't even realize that more people are killed by blunt objects than rifles let alone "assault rifles" in this country every year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get the eyebleach out. From Shitcago too! http://i.imgur.com/2cZVRK9.jpg I should have made a meme... She should worry more about food than "assault weapons". Idiots don't even realize that more people are killed by blunt objects than rifles let alone "assault rifles" in this country every year. Swimming pools kill more, and they are built and run by a huge number of municipalities. Does that mean that cities and towns who have a pool in their park district are willfully dealing in death? |
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Posted: 11/10/2015 12:55:16 PM EDT
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I think the republicans should propose a bill that says:
"if you submit or introduce any bill in WI legislature that limits, restricts, or bans any type of firearm in any way you will be immediately removed from your position and put in jail for no less than 5 years" |
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Posted: 11/10/2015 12:59:57 PM EDT
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If the bill comes back, the GOP leadership should just fast-track it as-is for a quick yes-no recorded up-down vote.
It'll accomplish 2 things. 1. It'll get the anti's on record and we can then trot that out for years afterward to prevent anyone who votes for it from attaining any sort of state-wide, or federal office. 2. It'll create bad feelings and butthurt among the "city democrats" when the rural "deer hunter democrats" vote against it, or try kill the bill procedurally before the vote. |
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Posted: 11/10/2015 8:24:06 PM EDT
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Get the eyebleach out. From Shitcago too! http://i.imgur.com/2cZVRK9.jpg I should have made a meme... Good Lord!!!! That is one ugly bitch!!!! She's freaking bloated!! Hideous beast!!! (I don't mind blowing post 6000 saying that, either!!) |
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Posted: 11/10/2015 10:59:53 PM EDT
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So the test for what we are allowed to have is what she can "conceive a need" for? Is it just up to her or can we all play that game?
Let's see, I can not "conceive a need" for anyone to have a vehicle that can exceed 70mph. That's the maximum speed limit right? So no more stock car racing unless all are limited to 70mph. Really, if "need" is the litmus test for what people are allowed to have 99% of what we do have should be taken away. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 7:01:03 PM EDT
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I can conceive of no legitimate reason that a citizen would ever become as huge as Representative Subeck.
She's huge. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 8:07:20 PM EDT
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I can conceive of no legitimate reason that a citizen would ever become as huge as Representative Subeck. She's huge. Check out Rep Zamirripa. She looks like a whale size storm from Xmen. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:15:05 PM EDT
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I can conceive of no legitimate reason that a citizen would ever become as huge as Representative Subeck. She's huge. Check out Rep Zamirripa. She looks like a whale size storm from Xmen. It's funny cause both of them have really good comic book villain names. Helps they both look like mutants too! 
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Posted: 11/13/2015 12:38:18 PM EDT
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So the test for what we are allowed to have is what she can "conceive a need" for? Is it just up to her or can we all play that game? Let's see, I can not "conceive a need" for anyone to have a vehicle that can exceed 70mph. That's the maximum speed limit right? So no more stock car racing unless all are limited to 70mph. Really, if "need" is the litmus test for what people are allowed to have 99% of what we do have should be taken away. The conceivable need is because of treasonous bowl stains like herself. |
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Posted: 11/13/2015 10:59:29 PM EDT
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I was more commenting on the fact that if we're limited to what someone without 2 brain cells to rub together can conceive of we're in trouble.
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Posted: 11/15/2015 12:02:18 PM EDT
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I was more commenting on the fact that if we're limited to what someone without 2 brain cells to rub together can conceive of we're in trouble. I figured as much. Only problem is that type of argument won't work with a wacky progressive because, even though they speed as well, they will just say you're conjecture is right to win the semantic reasoning argument. They view being able to do over the speed limit as an evil freedom, even if it is one they indulge in, but they hate freedoms of all kinds and feed on a system of more & more control. Even if deep down they don't like it. They have their reasoning based on a falsehood of self-sacrifice for a greater good, when in fact they are just being used as useful idiots of the system that they are a part of that simply wants more power & authority & the recognition that goes along with the having & gaining of that power & authority. |
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Posted: 11/18/2015 2:09:28 PM EDT
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Anybody know who I'm supposed to call to at least voice my opinion on this? I'm in north eastern Racine county.
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