Fuck that place

FPNI

I drove 2 1/2 hours to that store super excited to get some new stuff.
After talking to mr know it all mc grumpy I haven't been that pissed off at
a store ever.
I will forever spend my money elsewhere.

Who is mcgrumpy?

I'm guessing that bloviating POS owner?

The guy who can't sell overpriced heavily taxed ammo?

I'll never set foot in that store.

Lol..

I take it you arent applying?



 

Correct, but the rule is more about the owner not wanting to alienate liberal customers, seeing as that Sergey has said before that he sells to a lot of his fellow MS employees - and their politics are predictable if not hypocritical.

Frankly, I hope he goes out of business.

I'm guessing we won't see this thread duped on TOS?

I'm kind of conflicted by this thread.

I never understand it why legal gun owners try to eat their own, or would hope that people in the industry fail.  This type of behavior seems self destructive to the community, but is a common thread across GD and other forums.  I can't count the number of 'fuck that guy or business' threads on ARFCOM.   I liken that stance to a Fudd behavior mentality.  I thought the blog post about the most recent events in Orlando seemed rational enough to me ( http://preciseshooter.com/WeeklyUpdate/2016-06-15.aspx ).  I guess I'm not up on the latest hype on how I'm supposed to feel about a particular business or person in our community.

I've been to the shop and didn't have any issues.  Prices and selection seemed pretty good.  If  I don't like the way I am treated at the counter, I generally let that be my guide for purchasing decisions.  I generally try to support my local businesses vs. big box stores where possible.   Otherwise, big box will take over and good luck retaining legal gun ownership in the future.

Also, I sure as shit wouldn't want to go to a store and have someone start preaching religion or politics to me.  Some shit should stay personal.  Nothing more annoying that self righteous behavior behind the counter at your local small business to drive away patrons.


My 2 cents.

It's not complicated.

1) The man is a liberal democrat that saw a way to make money off conservative gun owners. It's not his livelihood, nor do I think it's a majority of his income (it takes a lot of volume of non-firearms sales which are low margin to make a decent living in this industry).

2) He made his views well known about how he votes and who he supports on a local and national level. Any self-respecting gun owner that actually understands what the 2nd Amendment is for is being deliberately obtuse by voting for a democrat and is only paying lip service. Democrats just aren't constitutionalist, at least not anymore.

3) His blog post about not succumbing to the panic is completely self-serving. Now that he isn't a kitchen table FFL and has a storefront aka overhead, he needs inventory to actually sell. Most gun stores work through distributors, Sportsman Supply, Sport South, RSR, Lipsey's, Farwest (which is Outdoor Emporium/SportCo), guess who gets inventory first when it's scarce? Not stores like his.

If you want to be a capitalist and take advantage of a market great, go for it. If you want to go on local gun boards and proclaim how you actively support people opposed to your constitutional rights at the same time, you're just exposing yourself for who you are.

I understand where S-I-S is coming from, and while I agree with his logic in general, we do have enemies within our ranks. Not everybody is proRKBA.





Example, last week a well known manufacturer had hildabeast come speak at their plant. Our guys were understandably not happy and the pitchforks came out.
SirGay has made his bed. He is not on our side.





I actually think opposition to him is a more morally honest position than that of TOS who only cater to him and censor in his name because of his financial  sponsorship.

I look at it this way, I'm not going to change the owner's mind, just like I'm not going to change the mind of Jeff Bezos or Jim Sinegal. The difference is he's running a small business that literally caters to the locals, since you have to be a WA resident to even buy a pistol. His business is literally built around a local clientele and how they view his business practices.

As far as I know his prices are fair and he's straightforward in person, but I won't support someone's hobby business who has quite vocally made it well known how he feels and whom he sides with.

As for Team Wendy, well we all know who butters their bread, it's gov. contracts, not you or me. I expect them to be as conservative as a Lockheed Martin or a Boeing.

Some of their employees on the other hand I'd bet either didn't attend the Hildabeast's performance or were stewing, forced to listen to it by their sr. leadership teams.

The owner is better than you and smarter than you. I don't know why anyone shops with this jackass. Constantly running his mouth about his biggest demographic, I don't get it. Oh wait he's better than you that's right. Fuck that guy.

You forgot that he also has more money than you,  believes in equal education for all, but constantly boasts about sending his daughters to private school.

Really there is a reason why many people do not like the guy,  especially if you've tried to have a conversation with him over on TOS as you all seem to call it.  No matter the topic,  he will steer it towards talking about how awesome he is.  You will get to hear about how you are uneducated white trash if you disagree with him on anything.  He has kicked customers out of his store when they introduced themselves as people from thr forum,  who it turned out he did not like.

Just an all around great guy to do business with.

A would-be employer posting termination-related tripe in a employment listing should be a red flag to even someone who is homeless.  Buyer beware, appropriate pun possibly intended.

Can anyone provide a link to his negative blog posts or "TOS" site?
I'd like to read them at the source.
Thanks!

There are a few "TOS".  This time it is waguns.org AFAIK.

He also said a lot of retarded things on Reddit which he has now gone back and deleted.

Mostly support for UBCs, firearms/owner registration, and Democrat politicians.

Here is one thread that is still left
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/16xw1p/i_am_a_firearms_dealer_ask_me_anything/

How have I missed this gem of a place

OK, back to the job qualifications;

Just a couple of many;

We do not support an arrogant, know-it-all attitude which is often present in gun stores

You must be genuinely interested in helping customers



Better odds of finding a gold coin on the sidewalk based on what I have seen in 40 years of going to gun shops.

Here's some stuff I posted a while back.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1738294_interesting_opinion_on_the_NRA_and_Conservatives_from_a_gun_shop_owner_in_the_PNW.html

Here is a gem of a quote from Reddit:

Todd Herman on KTTH just has a piece on how great Sergey was for moving to Sno county.
Had Sergey saying gun businesses should boycott any sales to Seattle City Govt.