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Posted: 1/13/2017 1:04:05 AM EDT
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After a half dozen stamps, the NFA has definitely taught me to be patient. And then when you pass two dozen you really know the meaning of patience. The key is submit a new stamp every month and you forget about all the ones you are waiting on... |
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Posted: 1/13/2017 10:40:22 AM EDT
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TWO STAMPS APPROVED!!! WOO-WOO!
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Posted: 1/13/2017 12:35:09 PM EDT
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details man... control numbers????
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Posted: 1/13/2017 12:49:53 PM EDT
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details man... control numbers???? 272211 came in this morning at 4:01am... |
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Posted: 1/13/2017 12:56:18 PM EDT
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272211 came in this morning at 4:01am... 
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Posted: 1/13/2017 1:04:25 PM EDT
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Based on my 5 control numbers, and when they came in, it looks like they are doing about 200 per day.
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Posted: 1/13/2017 1:22:38 PM EDT
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details man... control numbers???? Permit number? If so, 20162725xx for both, they're 9 apart. |
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Posted: 1/13/2017 1:22:42 PM EDT
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Lots of the 6/9's are hitting, got mine back today efile truest form 1.
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Posted: 1/13/2017 1:38:03 PM EDT
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Cool. Nice to see those come through.
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Posted: 1/13/2017 2:24:26 PM EDT
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Based on my 5 control numbers, and when they came in, it looks like they are doing about 200 per day. This at least gives us something to kill time with while we're waiting. Based on the info in this thread, my three should come in in 3 or 4 days. I assume none on the weekends, so Wednesday, or Thursday. The lucky ones will come in on Friday 1/20. MAGA Day. ?? |
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Posted: 1/13/2017 3:40:20 PM EDT
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SBR eForm 1 submitted 6/9/2016, approved 1/13/2017.
This is to advise you that the status of your eForms submission with the subject Permit/Control number has changed to APPROVED Permit/Control No: 2016272xxx Your Reference No: Submission Date: 2016-06-09-04:00 Form ID: ATF Form 1 (5320.1) - Application to Make and Register a Firearm |
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Posted: 1/13/2017 7:13:40 PM EDT
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Based on my 5 control numbers, and when they came in, it looks like they are doing about 200 per day. That can't be right. That would mean my 7/8 would still be 270+ days out! 327,xxx control number. |
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Posted: 1/13/2017 7:30:40 PM EDT
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That can't be right. That would mean my 7/8 would still be 270+ days out! 327,xxx control number. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Based on my 5 control numbers, and when they came in, it looks like they are doing about 200 per day. That can't be right. That would mean my 7/8 would still be 270+ days out! 327,xxx control number. 7/8 was right before the 41F deadline. I wouldn't plan on having that stamp in a month. |
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Posted: 1/13/2017 8:23:57 PM EDT
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That can't be right. That would mean my 7/8 would still be 270+ days out! 327,xxx control number. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Based on my 5 control numbers, and when they came in, it looks like they are doing about 200 per day. That can't be right. That would mean my 7/8 would still be 270+ days out! 327,xxx control number. prolly more than that...the rate will slow down as we approach 41F deadlines. 
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Posted: 1/13/2017 9:15:43 PM EDT
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This at least gives us something to kill time with while we're waiting. Based on the info in this thread, my three should come in in 3 or 4 days. I assume none on the weekends, so Wednesday, or Thursday. The lucky ones will come in on Friday 1/20. MAGA Day. ?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Based on my 5 control numbers, and when they came in, it looks like they are doing about 200 per day. This at least gives us something to kill time with while we're waiting. Based on the info in this thread, my three should come in in 3 or 4 days. I assume none on the weekends, so Wednesday, or Thursday. The lucky ones will come in on Friday 1/20. MAGA Day. ?? Well, so much for my calculations. 2 of my 3 came through today. Hopefully number 3 will come Monday. Mine popped up at around 12PM and 2 PM PST respectively. |
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Posted: 1/14/2017 11:25:41 AM EDT
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That can't be right. That would mean my 7/8 would still be 270+ days out! 327,xxx control number. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Based on my 5 control numbers, and when they came in, it looks like they are doing about 200 per day. That can't be right. That would mean my 7/8 would still be 270+ days out! 327,xxx control number. I had a 6/9 submission get kicked and resubmitted 7/11. I really hope it's not that long. 
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Posted: 1/14/2017 3:00:59 PM EDT
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Well, so much for my calculations. 2 of my 3 came through today. Hopefully number 3 will come Monday. Mine popped up at around 12PM and 2 PM PST respectively. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Based on my 5 control numbers, and when they came in, it looks like they are doing about 200 per day. This at least gives us something to kill time with while we're waiting. Based on the info in this thread, my three should come in in 3 or 4 days. I assume none on the weekends, so Wednesday, or Thursday. The lucky ones will come in on Friday 1/20. MAGA Day. ?? Well, so much for my calculations. 2 of my 3 came through today. Hopefully number 3 will come Monday. Mine popped up at around 12PM and 2 PM PST respectively. Who knew the Federal government worked weekends? My 3rd one came through this morning at 8:05 am. |
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Posted: 1/15/2017 3:20:19 PM EDT
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My 6/10 submission came through at 7:25am, control #2738xx. Didn't expect that on a Sunday.
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Posted: 1/15/2017 5:08:27 PM EDT
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WOW - I've got two control numbers lower than yours and I've got nothing!!!!
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Posted: 1/15/2017 11:21:17 PM EDT
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AOW e-file form 1 submitted 6/4/16, approved 1/3/17.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 12:05:39 PM EDT
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AOW e-file form 1 submitted 6/4/16, approved 1/3/17. 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 12:07:28 PM EDT
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And then when you pass two dozen you really know the meaning of patience. So what do you learn at three dozen?
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Posted: 1/16/2017 5:36:18 PM EDT
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AOW e-file form 1 submitted 6/4/16, approved 1/3/17. Yeah, I'm always curious what people aow. It's a strange category. |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 4:03:29 AM EDT
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So what do you learn at three dozen? That you are spending way too much on stamps....but still continue. ;) |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 11:29:24 AM EDT
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That you are spending way too much on stamps....but still continue. ;) Ahh, ok. |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 12:44:44 PM EDT
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3 6/9 submissions back this morning 1/17/17
All in the 2016273*** range... One came through without a control number printed on top - weird. And one came through with the stamp, but also with a DRAFT watermark on it. Has anyone seen this before????? |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 12:47:44 PM EDT
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3 6/9 submissions back this morning 1/17/17 All in the 2016273*** range... One came through without a control number printed on top - weird. And one came through with the stamp, but also with a DRAFT watermark on it. Has anyone seen this before????? I believe people have been saying to use the "ask the experts" link on EFORMS to let them know and it will get fixed. |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 1:34:22 PM EDT
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I believe people have been saying to use the "ask the experts" link on EFORMS to let them know and it will get fixed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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3 6/9 submissions back this morning 1/17/17 All in the 2016273*** range... One came through without a control number printed on top - weird. And one came through with the stamp, but also with a DRAFT watermark on it. Has anyone seen this before????? I believe people have been saying to use the "ask the experts" link on EFORMS to let them know and it will get fixed. Had to do this on my first sbr. They'll get it taken care of, anywhere from a few hours to a day or so. |
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Posted: 1/17/2017 8:04:40 PM EDT
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Whoo hoo!!! Received my eform approval today. Alright...alright...
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Posted: 1/18/2017 3:07:46 AM EDT
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Yeah, I'm always curious what people aow. It's a strange category. Rem 870 factory pistol grip. Making a 12 inch barrel breeching gun like some of the models I worked on over-seas. It's a nostalgia thing. |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 3:03:16 PM EDT
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Approved 1/18/17
Submitted 6/9/16 Control No. 27368xx However, I have the dreaded "DRAFT" mark. |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 4:07:52 PM EDT
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Can the control numbers, date of submission, and date of approval for Form 1, & 4 be had via a FOIA request?
Wonder how that graph would look. Anyone getting paper form submissions back? |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 5:28:12 PM EDT
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Approved 1/18/17 Submitted 6/9/16 Control No. 27368xx However, I have the dreaded "DRAFT" mark. |
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Posted: 1/18/2017 8:22:47 PM EDT
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Can the control numbers, date of submission, and date of approval for Form 1, & 4 be had via a FOIA request? Wonder how that graph would look. Anyone getting paper form submissions back? I also have a paper submission in the works. check cashed 6/19. I don't expect anything until next month.....I hope |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:55:33 PM EDT
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I received my two 6/11/16 Eform 1 submissions back on Friday 1/20/17. Now just waiting on a Paper Form 4 SBR, check cashed 6/27/16 and another Eform 1 from 7/11/16.
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Posted: 1/24/2017 11:00:38 AM EDT
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4 form 1s approved this morning
Submitted 6/12 Approved 1/24 Control numbers up to 201627700X Hopefully this gives hope to one of you guys. Now I have to come up with the money to finish these builds and find someone to install an under folder rear trunion... do you guys have any suggestions for the trunion in the Kitsap area -Mike |
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Posted: 1/26/2017 7:09:11 PM EDT
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Whoever is waiting on a stamp to make their own suppressors might be SOL
SD Tactical was told to stop selling their solvent traps. |
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Posted: 1/27/2017 1:23:58 AM EDT
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Whoever is waiting on a stamp to make their own suppressors might be SOL
SD Tactical was told to stop selling their solvent traps. I read that it might be that they are now licensed to make silencers and are using the same parts that they are selling. Hopefully they are the only solvent trap supplier that the ATF goes after. |
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Posted: 2/3/2017 4:43:12 PM EDT
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Any updates on people getting F1's back?
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Posted: 2/3/2017 7:44:33 PM EDT
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Form 1 efiled 3 stamps on 6/13/16. Got all three of them on 1/26/17. MCX form was sent with a "DRAFT" watermark on the document. I reached out to the efile email address and they sent me a clean version the very next day. Now I just have to wait for it to come back from the BCG
I'm just a forum lurker, but wanted to thank @Dawgfish (and everyone else) for their work on all this! |
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Posted: 2/7/2017 5:51:23 PM EDT
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My 6/17 submission just came back this morning. 10/22 pocket rifle here I come!
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Posted: 2/8/2017 4:41:15 AM EDT
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Two 6/17 E-file Form 1 SBR stamps came back this AM.
It's been a good day. |
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Posted: 2/8/2017 5:04:08 AM EDT
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So 8 month's.
I read where some people are talking about a point in time when something changed and/or there was a flood of forms? Has that hit, or is it yet to come? I watched a video on YouTube of a generic can, seemed kinda like what I want to do, no it's not the best but being able to just quiet down .223/.30 with one can would work for me. Thinking about selling some LS motor stuff I got. Turbo'd LS motor in the Chevelle is never going to happen at this point, a generic can is more attractive to me now. |
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Posted: 2/8/2017 11:52:10 AM EDT
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Yes, the fed rules changed on or about 7/13/16 (Google 41F), so as we approach that date the number of forms is increasing and the delay with ATF is increasing. I admit that the ATF is actually doing a decent job trying to stay caught up. I was convinced that wait times were going to top 1 year due to this change, but it didn't look like it will get quite that bad.
Of course, what we need is the HPA to pass. If it does, we'll probably start to see 30 day approvals on the remaining nfa items. |
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Posted: 2/8/2017 12:00:54 PM EDT
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Of course, what we need is the HPA to pass. If it does, we'll probably start to see 30 day approvals on the remaining nfa items. You're optimistic
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Posted: 2/8/2017 1:41:40 PM EDT
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So what do you learn at three dozen? the ZEN of INNER PEACE |
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Posted: 2/8/2017 1:59:17 PM EDT
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You're optimistic Maybe. Everything I have heard suggests that silencers represent the vast majority of forms they process. Almost all of them are made by manufacturer's (as opposed to F1 / makers), so there's Form 3s and Form 4s to process. If they kept their staffing how it is now (prolly not perma, but for a while it would prolly remain the same), I can imagine wait times would be much much shorter than they are now. Maybe 30 days is optimistic, but it prolly wouldn't be much more than that....at least until they downsized the staff. 
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Posted: 2/8/2017 2:18:23 PM EDT
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Maybe. Everything I have heard suggests that silencers represent the vast majority of forms they process. Almost all of them are made by manufacturer's (as opposed to F1 / makers), so there's Form 3s and Form 4s to process. If they kept their staffing how it is now (prolly not perma, but for a while it would prolly remain the same), I can imagine wait times would be much much shorter than they are now. Maybe 30 days is optimistic, but it prolly wouldn't be much more than that....at least until they downsized the staff. Backlog=job security=budget. It's the FED after all, they'll adjust accordingly. Everything I've seen has pointed to them borrowing ATF employees from other divisions and hiring in temps (which is unsettling to me) to keep up. Once that happens they'll go back to the NFA staffing and times will level out at whatever pace they deem safe for OT and staffing. Imho. |
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Posted: 2/8/2017 2:47:15 PM EDT
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Yes, the fed rules changed on or about 7/13/16 (Google 41F), so as we approach that date the number of forms is increasing and the delay with ATF is increasing. I admit that the ATF is actually doing a decent job trying to stay caught up. I was convinced that wait times were going to top 1 year due to this change, but it didn't look like it will get quite that bad. Of course, what we need is the HPA to pass. If it does, we'll probably start to see 30 day approvals on the remaining nfa items. So technically the peak of forms is going to get to them in about a month, if they are approving forms from 6/13 now? So does anybody know what the process is that they do? Work on each form once a day for 2 minutes once a week until it is processed? I know it's .gov, but just curious. Thanks for the insight. |
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Posted: 2/8/2017 3:26:14 PM EDT
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it's about like you'd expect, they put forms in boxes, stack the boxes in approximate order that they were received, and then forms are taken from those boxes when their 'time comes' and they are distributed to the actual examiner. An examiner does many forms in a single day, so it's not 2 mins a day...it's more like it sits in a box for 7 months and 30 days, and then when the examiner finally starts on it they knock it out same-day. Then, if it's a paper form, you have to wait a few weeks for an intern/lacky to envelop-stuff and mail the the stamped form.
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