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Ive been out of the loop for a while, but what happened with them?  Just go out of buisiness?

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Ive been out of the loop for a while, but what happened with them? Just go out of buisiness?


EDIT:  Just curious how they plan to auction off a SERBU.  Being a class III, doesnt that have some legal issues you would have to over come transfering it?

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they would have gotten their asking price on their wall hangers just before they closed.  



now they only get best price less auctioneer pricing.



snooze... you loose

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Lots of Fudd guns, and not a single AR platform rifle?

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Lots of Fudd guns, and not a single AR platform rifle?

A lot of the gear is used and/or non-functioning according to the notes. Seems like a huge gamble unless it's dirt cheap, because auctions don't accept returns. Would manufacturer warranties even be available?

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I spoke with Kesselrings and Murphy Auctions.

Murphy won't know who's the FFL or any of the information until this Thursday.

Kesselrings told me who the FFL is, (not going to give out his name) however, that name does not show up on the ATF's FFL check.

In any case I was told that Kesselrings "sold" the inventory to Murphy, Murphy is selling the firearms and silencers and their FFL is doing the FFL stuff.

If you can have your firearm directly transferred to you (long guns, shotguns, handguns via your CPL) then you will get your firearm on the spot.

No CLP, then the handgun waiting period applies.

In the case of the silencers then Murphy's FFL person will be holding on to them until the ATF approves the paperwork.

I might go for the first day just to check it out.

Probably going to be three types of people, individuals who are going to overpay, dealers / shops buying a few thousand dollars worth of inventory and then perhaps a guy who buys everything.

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Ive been out of the loop for a while, but what happened with them? Just go out of buisiness?


EDIT: Just curious how they plan to auction off a SERBU. Being a class III, doesnt that have some legal issues you would have to over come transfering it?

EDIT #2:  Not to mention the metric ton of suppressors.  Is this for FFL holders only or do they plan on letting joe schmoe walk out the door of the aution with one of those in thier hands while the ATF, waits in the parking lot?

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Doesn't the FFL dealer have to be a class 3 dealer to handle the cans?  So is the Murphy's FFL able to handle both class 1 & 3????

10% BUYERS PREMIUM ON ALL ITEMS
13% BUYERS PREMIUM FOR MURPHYLIVE USERS.

FIREARM TERMS

ALL FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSE TRANSFERS WILL BE CONDUCTED BY
A $50.00 TRANSFER FEE PER FIREARM WILL BE CHARGED SEPARATE FROM THE INITIAL GUN PURCHASE. CASH OR CREDIT CARD ONLY.
LONG GUN BUYERS MUST BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OLD.
HANDGUN BUYERS MUST BE AT LEAST 21 YEARS OLD.
HANDGUN BUYERS WHO DO NOT HAVE A CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMIT WILL BE REQUERED TO WAIT TEN BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO PICKING UP THE ITEM.
PER WASHINGTON STATE LAW (RCW 9.41.124) RESIDENTS OF A STATE OTHER THAN WASHINGTON MAY PURCHASE RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS IF PERMITTED BY THEIR HOME STATES LAWS. OUT OF STATE HANDGUN PURCHASERS MUST HAVE HANDGUN SHIPPED TO LICENSED FFL DEALER IN THE STATE THEY HAVE RESIDENCY IN.
SHIPPING OF FIREARMS WILL BE HANDLED BY THE FEDERAL POLICE SUPPLY, BUYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL SHIPPING CHARGES.
CLASS III PURCHASES REQUIRE ATF APPROVAL ON A FORM 4 PRIOR TO PICKING UP THE ITEM. FORM 4 APPROVAL MAY TAKE UP TO TWELVE MONTHS TO BE APPROVED. DEALERS MUST SHOW PROOF OF SOT. SUPPRESSOR SALES WILL REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL FEE OF $200 FOR THE FORM 4. THERE MAY ALSO BE AN ADDITIONAL FEE OF $200. ALL CLASS III PURCHASES WILL BE HANDLED BY THE RECEIVER.
ALL FIREARM SALES ARE SUBJECT TO ALL FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL FIREARM REGULATIONS.
ALL OUT OF STATE BUYER REGULATIONS APPLY.
ALL FIREARMS NOT PICKED UP IN PERSON AT THE AUCTION SITE MUST BE SHIPPED TO A LICENSED FFL DEALER. ALL SHIPPING & TRANSFER FEES AND CHARGES MUST BE PAID BY THE PURCHASER.
ALL SALES ARE FINAL. NO REFUNDS OR EXCHANGES. THE JAMES G. MURPHY CO. ADVISES BIDDERS TO INSPECT ITEMS BEFORE BIDDING.
WARRANTY DISCLAIMER: ALL SALES ARE FINAL. ALL ITEMS ARE BEING SOLD AS IS, WHERE IS, WITH ALL FAULTS AND WITHOUT ANY WARRANTIES AS TO MERCHANTABILITY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE PRINCIPAL, THE AUCTIONEER, THE ADVERTISING COORDINATOR, AND ANY OF THEIR AGENTS MAKE NO EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF ANY TYPE.
FIREARMS WILL NOT BE SOLD TO BIDDERS THAT DO NOT COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS
FIREARMS WILL NOT BE SOLD FOR EXPORT OUTSIDE THE U.S.A.
FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION SALES WILL ONLY BE MADE TO U.S. CITIZENS OR U.S. PERMANENT RESIDENTS. ALL INTERNET BIDDERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE PRE APPROVED PRIOR TO BIDDING. REQUIREMENTS WILL INCLUDE FUND VERIFICATION AND IDENTIFICATION. TERMS OF ONLINE BIDDING LOCATED HERE.
ALL BIDDERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A VALID FORM OF IDENTIFICATION.
DUE TO SECURITY REASONS ADVANCED BIDDING & PHONE IN ABSENTEE BIDDING WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS AUCTION.
ALL SALES ARE FINAL

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I meant manufacturer warranties - obviously Kesselrings is in no position to offer a warranty.
But some manufacturers won't honor a warranty either for goods purchased at auction, or not purchased 'new'.
Basically, if I buy something that turns out to be a piece of junk, will Glock, Beretta etc honor the warranty?

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Definitely no bargains here today. Everything sold for more than street price, and some items for more than MSRP.





e.g. Beretta CX4 carbines opened bidding at $500 and sold from $550-$700, which equates to $605 to $770 with the 10% premium. Add another 3% for Internet buyers and the low end was more like $620.





Slickguns shows the most recent two prices for the same gun as $620 and $649. And that doesn't include a Beretta $50 rebate either.





Not exactly worth driving all the way out there to save $15. By the time you add in the additional fee for non-local people, you are further underwater.





I called Beretta last week and couldn't get a straight answer on warranties either, so that's another unknown.

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I missed out today, so I wonder what the Glock 17L went for......  

I figured that the bargains would be few and far between.  Sounds like I was accurate in that assumption....

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And several suppressors from yesterday were relisted today, since the buyers didn't seem to understand the process.  I picked up a Silencerco Saker 556 suppressor for $200.  Now for the 12 month wait...

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Better bargains today.  The various ACOG's went between $450 and $750.



A scope from yesterday was relisted today.  I picked up a Vortex Viper HS-LR 4-16x50 (XLR reticle) for $350 (plus buyers premium).



And several suppressors from yesterday were relisted today, since the buyers didn't seem to understand the process.  I picked up a Silencerco Saker 556 suppressor for $200.  Now for the 12 month wait...

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I noticed a fair number of incorrect or incomplete descriptions. There were several Beretta's listed with non-existent model numbers. The S&W M&P15-22 said it was an "AR15 LE" just like the actual AR-15's and it was listed right after them.

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Better bargains today.  The various ACOG's went between $450 and $750.



A scope from yesterday was relisted today.  I picked up a Vortex Viper HS-LR 4-16x50 (XLR reticle) for $350 (plus buyers premium).



And several suppressors from yesterday were relisted today, since the buyers didn't seem to understand the process.  I picked up a Silencerco Saker 556 suppressor for $200.  Now for the 12 month wait...