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Posted: 3/16/2014 8:59:10 AM EDT
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Just curious as to what the purpose is of this event? View Quote What I gather, an exercise of 1A/2A rights voicing the beliefs of the pro-gun community. We will continue to lose our conservative rights if we continue to act conservatively. Liberals will continue to publicly voice their opposition. From the event description: About We will be having an open carry walk in Akron, OH on March 29th at noon. We will be meeting in the parking deck on the corner of east market and high st. Plenty of parking its also free on the weekends, and it should be a ton of exposure. Make sure to bring signs. Long guns and hand guns are both welcome, T-shirts will be available at the event. |
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I'll be camping that weekend.
However, there is a counter-protest at the Summit County gunshow this weekend if anyone wants to hit that up. I will be there fo sho. |
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Sorry if some don't like hearing it, but I find it pathetic that a thread about Gunny being at Vance's or some 40 something slut blowing a 12 year old gets massive attention, but yet a thread about assembly of 2A activism barely gets a response.
They're your rights. Don't bitch and whine when you continue to lose them. |
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Could be that there is no information provided, so there can't be much discussion. Many people don't use Facebook.
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Could be that there is no information provided, so there can't be much discussion. Many people don't use Facebook. View Quote Fair enough. Here is the information from the event page: Akron Open Carry/Firearm Education Walk Date: Saturday, March 29, 2014 Time: 12:00pm - 2:30pm Location: 40 S High St, Akron, OH 44308 Details: We will be having an open carry walk in Akron, OH on March 29th at noon. We will be meeting in the parking deck on the corner of east market and high st. Plenty of parking its also free on the weekends, and it should be a ton of exposure. Make sure to bring signs. Long guns and hand guns are both welcome, T-shirts will be available at the event. Disclaimer: While we would love to see as many people carrying as possible, please take it upon yourself to make sure that you are obeying all laws (local, state, and federal) and procedures, that you can legally be in possession of a firearm and are not under any disability or otherwise barred from owning or possessing a firearm, and that any interactions with law enforcement or the public are respectful and courteous. Ohio Carry does not condone violence, disrespect, or anything that could be misconstrued as disorderly conduct. You are coming to this event as an individual and Ohio Carry is not responsible and cannot be held accountable for any action you commit, or any action taken against you legally or civilly. While we encourage you to flex your rights, please use your own best discretion as to what to do and not to do. |
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I'll counter protest them as I pull in and out of the show. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'll be camping that weekend. However, there is a counter-protest at the Summit County gunshow this weekend if anyone wants to hit that up. I will be there fo sho. I'll counter protest them as I pull in and out of the show. There were around 60 of us and 7 anti's. Were you amongst us? Or would this particular show of support take too much of your time? |
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There were around 60 of us and 7 anti's. Were you amongst us? Or would this particular show of support take too much of your time? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'll be camping that weekend. However, there is a counter-protest at the Summit County gunshow this weekend if anyone wants to hit that up. I will be there fo sho. I'll counter protest them as I pull in and out of the show. There were around 60 of us and 7 anti's. Were you amongst us? Or would this particular show of support take too much of your time? Say what? Actually, I was at the gun show, arriving before you guys and leaving after you guys. I've taken the time to spread the word of the Akron walk on here and I plan to attend. |
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We show up before the anti's and leave when theyre all gone. I dont even know why they bother. People driving into the gun show are obviously pretty well pro-gun already. I doubt their signs are going to convert anyone.
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We show up before the anti's and leave when theyre all gone. I dont even know why they bother. People driving into the gun show are obviously pretty well pro-gun already. I doubt their signs are going to convert anyone. View Quote So why'd you ask me if showing support was too much of my time? |
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You were there, could have stopped and shown your support for 2A by counter protesting the antis. But apparently it wasnt worthy of your time.
So you really cant be pissed that people wont go to this open carry walk if you couldnt even take 15 minutes to do this one. |
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... Or maybe pro-gun don't care about the open carry walk. Personally I'm neither for or against open carry, but really what do you hope to accomplish?
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... Or maybe pro-gun don't care about the open carry walk. Personally I'm neither for or against open carry, but really what do you hope to accomplish? View Quote I don't get the whole open carry thing either. I did see a fellow in Home Depot the other day open carrying. He had a Makarov (maybe) in an Uncle Mikes type holster. No one paid him any mind at all. |
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You were there, could have stopped and shown your support for 2A by counter protesting the antis. But apparently it wasnt worthy of your time. So you really cant be pissed that people wont go to this open carry walk if you couldnt even take 15 minutes to do this one. View Quote What part of the fact that I got to the show at 9am and left at 12:30pm didn't you get? When I left, you guys weren't there. When I left, you guys weren't there. Had you been when I was leaving, I most definitely would have stopped. But ya, you're right. I'm not showing support at all. Certainly not by creating this thread. (sarcasm) |
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... Or maybe pro-gun don't care about the open carry walk. Personally I'm neither for or against open carry, but really what do you hope to accomplish? View Quote I would think it would be a show of assembly in support of the 2A. What do the anti-2A protesters accomplish at a gun show? The fact they are there, even in low numbers, shows they are willing to fight for what they believe. Here's the issue: Conservatives are conservative. By nature, we are not ones to protest, cause a commotion, or draw attention to ourselves. The problem: The other side is. |
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normaly, we do OC events in towns that mess with OC'ers... im not aware of anything new in akron happening...
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normaly, we do OC events in towns that mess with OC'ers... im not aware of anything new in akron happening... View Quote Other than the gross majority of the political environment of the county being liberal, democrats and having anti-2A mayors and council who are against stand your ground laws as well. |
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I dont facebook or participate in any website whos owner refers to his customers as morons.
Many here open carried in protest before you could conceal carry. Now we can and have elected a governor who stood by his pro gun constituants and signed pro carry legislation shortly after sandy hook. |
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I dont facebook or participate in any website whos owner refers to his customers as morons. Many here open carried in protest before you could conceal carry. Now we can and have elected a governor who stood by his pro gun constituants and signed pro carry legislation shortly after sandy hook. View Quote Yeah, sorta seems like being a sore winner. Hey we won, lets protest because some time in the future, someone may do something we don't like, even though everything is going our way at the moment. |
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Yeah, sorta seems like being a sore winner. Hey we won, lets protest because some time in the future, someone may do something we don't like, even though everything is going our way at the moment. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I dont facebook or participate in any website whos owner refers to his customers as morons. Many here open carried in protest before you could conceal carry. Now we can and have elected a governor who stood by his pro gun constituants and signed pro carry legislation shortly after sandy hook. Yeah, sorta seems like being a sore winner. Hey we won, lets protest because some time in the future, someone may do something we don't like, even though everything is going our way at the moment. What are you talking about? For one, Akron city council and Akron's mayor are against Stand Your Ground legislation. I guess I don't see the issue in public assembly showing support for our 2A rights. |
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The more people that OC, the more acceptable being Pro 2A will become. Perhaps the less looks you'll get when somebody first learns that you "actually carry a gun"
Allowing CCW is like telling your kid he can swear all he wants, as long as NOBODY every hears him. Because when the time comes that he has reason to do it, you're still going to be appalled, punish him for it and tell his brothers and sisters why it's not ok. |
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So anyone who is planning to go, please take a few cans or a bag of food stuff with you to donate for the Garretsville Food Bank. Their storage area was destroyed in last weeks fire and Ohio Carry is having a food drive to help rebuild their supplies.
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Iam guessing Akron demographics arent likely to ever be over the top in love with a bunch of dudes who love their guns just like any big city in the country. Maybe a demonstration will get people talking about it more but its easy to turn that scenario into a story of gun nuts who wont settle until guns are everywhere and in everyones hands. Just like many of us wouldnt want eccentric gay men in assless chaps dancing around public streets in celebration of gay rights.
I can appreciate the goal but question its methodolgy. |
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These events in the past have really been a non-issue with the localities, including ultra-liberal Oberlin.
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Iam guessing Akron demographics arent likely to ever be over the top in love with a bunch of dudes who love their guns just like any big city in the country. Maybe a demonstration will get people talking about it more but its easy to turn that scenario into a story of gun nuts who wont settle until guns are everywhere and in everyones hands. Just like many of us wouldnt want eccentric gay men in assless chaps dancing around public streets in celebration of gay rights. I can appreciate the goal but question its methodolgy. View Quote A silent voice is no voice at all. The conservative approach has failed our rights. We must be willing to demonstrate and protest, forcing our rights back into society where they belong. The liberal society and media have stripped many of them away because we sit back and don't fight enough to keep them. Again, like I've said, the problem is that conservatives are conservative. It's time to be wolves amongst the wolves. |
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A silent voice is no voice at all. The conservative approach has failed our rights. We must be willing to demonstrate and protest, forcing our rights back into society where they belong. The liberal society and media have stripped many of them away because we sit back and don't fight enough to keep them. Again, like I've said, the problem is that conservatives are conservative. It's time to be wolves amongst the wolves. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Iam guessing Akron demographics arent likely to ever be over the top in love with a bunch of dudes who love their guns just like any big city in the country. Maybe a demonstration will get people talking about it more but its easy to turn that scenario into a story of gun nuts who wont settle until guns are everywhere and in everyones hands. Just like many of us wouldnt want eccentric gay men in assless chaps dancing around public streets in celebration of gay rights. I can appreciate the goal but question its methodolgy. A silent voice is no voice at all. The conservative approach has failed our rights. We must be willing to demonstrate and protest, forcing our rights back into society where they belong. The liberal society and media have stripped many of them away because we sit back and don't fight enough to keep them. Again, like I've said, the problem is that conservatives are conservative. It's time to be wolves amongst the wolves. In ohio we've made big gains. Try buying an Ar15 in your local walmart, dicks or even bass pro 10 years ago. I went to bass pro a decade or so ago to see their pistols and all they had were revolvers. Now they cater to people who buy firearms for self defense. We cant be complacent but the sky is not falling. Extreme reactionary thought in a time of good gains gives ammo to progressives and others with agendas. They would be smart to send someone into the gun community and rally irrational people to make their points that we are a bunch of nuts. |
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In ohio we've made big gains. Try buying an Ar15 in your local walmart, dicks or even bass pro 10 years ago. I went to bass pro a decade or so ago to see their pistols and all they had were revolvers. Now they cater to people who buy firearms for self defense. We cant be complacent but the sky is not falling. Extreme reactionary thought in a time of good gains gives ammo to progressives and others with agendas. They would be smart to send someone into the gun community and rally irrational people to make their points that we are a bunch of nuts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Iam guessing Akron demographics arent likely to ever be over the top in love with a bunch of dudes who love their guns just like any big city in the country. Maybe a demonstration will get people talking about it more but its easy to turn that scenario into a story of gun nuts who wont settle until guns are everywhere and in everyones hands. Just like many of us wouldnt want eccentric gay men in assless chaps dancing around public streets in celebration of gay rights. I can appreciate the goal but question its methodolgy. A silent voice is no voice at all. The conservative approach has failed our rights. We must be willing to demonstrate and protest, forcing our rights back into society where they belong. The liberal society and media have stripped many of them away because we sit back and don't fight enough to keep them. Again, like I've said, the problem is that conservatives are conservative. It's time to be wolves amongst the wolves. In ohio we've made big gains. Try buying an Ar15 in your local walmart, dicks or even bass pro 10 years ago. I went to bass pro a decade or so ago to see their pistols and all they had were revolvers. Now they cater to people who buy firearms for self defense. We cant be complacent but the sky is not falling. Extreme reactionary thought in a time of good gains gives ammo to progressives and others with agendas. They would be smart to send someone into the gun community and rally irrational people to make their points that we are a bunch of nuts. I think that's just business capturing a market that's growing and very profitable. They wouldn't sell it if it didn't make money. An open carry walk is hardly extreme reactionary behavior. |
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A silent voice is no voice at all. The conservative approach has failed our rights. We must be willing to demonstrate and protest, forcing our rights back into society where they belong. The liberal society and media have stripped many of them away because we sit back and don't fight enough to keep them. Again, like I've said, the problem is that conservatives are conservative. It's time to be wolves amongst the wolves. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Iam guessing Akron demographics arent likely to ever be over the top in love with a bunch of dudes who love their guns just like any big city in the country. Maybe a demonstration will get people talking about it more but its easy to turn that scenario into a story of gun nuts who wont settle until guns are everywhere and in everyones hands. Just like many of us wouldnt want eccentric gay men in assless chaps dancing around public streets in celebration of gay rights. I can appreciate the goal but question its methodolgy. A silent voice is no voice at all. The conservative approach has failed our rights. We must be willing to demonstrate and protest, forcing our rights back into society where they belong. The liberal society and media have stripped many of them away because we sit back and don't fight enough to keep them. Again, like I've said, the problem is that conservatives are conservative. It's time to be wolves amongst the wolves. What are you demonstrating and protesting against? What rights are you trying to force back into society? Open carry protests have their place but this doesn't seem to be one of them...it looks like "a bunch of crazy gun people" trying to come up with an excuse to walk around with their guns. |
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I dont facebook or participate in any website whos owner refers to his customers as morons. Many here open carried in protest before you could conceal carry. Now we can and have elected a governor who stood by his pro gun constituants and signed pro carry legislation shortly after sandy hook. View Quote Who/what company did that? |
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I dont facebook or participate in any website whos owner refers to his customers as morons. Many here open carried in protest before you could conceal carry. Now we can and have elected a governor who stood by his pro gun constituants and signed pro carry legislation shortly after sandy hook. Who/what company did that? facebook ceo http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks |
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I dont facebook or participate in any website whos owner refers to his customers as morons. Many here open carried in protest before you could conceal carry. Now we can and have elected a governor who stood by his pro gun constituants and signed pro carry legislation shortly after sandy hook. Who/what company did that? facebook ceo http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks Except Zuckerberg is right. Facebook has millions of users, most of them young & dumb (and many more not young but just as dumb). And yes, they are also morons who expect privacy on a service that makes its money sharing your information with users and advertisers. |
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What are you demonstrating and protesting against? What rights are you trying to force back into society? Open carry protests have their place but this doesn't seem to be one of them...it looks like "a bunch of crazy gun people" trying to come up with an excuse to walk around with their guns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Iam guessing Akron demographics arent likely to ever be over the top in love with a bunch of dudes who love their guns just like any big city in the country. Maybe a demonstration will get people talking about it more but its easy to turn that scenario into a story of gun nuts who wont settle until guns are everywhere and in everyones hands. Just like many of us wouldnt want eccentric gay men in assless chaps dancing around public streets in celebration of gay rights. I can appreciate the goal but question its methodolgy. A silent voice is no voice at all. The conservative approach has failed our rights. We must be willing to demonstrate and protest, forcing our rights back into society where they belong. The liberal society and media have stripped many of them away because we sit back and don't fight enough to keep them. Again, like I've said, the problem is that conservatives are conservative. It's time to be wolves amongst the wolves. What are you demonstrating and protesting against? What rights are you trying to force back into society? Open carry protests have their place but this doesn't seem to be one of them...it looks like "a bunch of crazy gun people" trying to come up with an excuse to walk around with their guns. You're right. Our 2A rights haven't been infringed upon. We should all just stay home and not exercise our right to free speech and assembly. I can't believe people who claim to be pro 2A, but are on the fence with some aspects of it. I need an excuse to open carry? It's my f-ing right to do so. I don't need any excuse to exercise my God given rights. Gun owners need an excuse to assemble and show unity? I certainly think there's enough shit going down in society. Don't you? |
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No one here is happy about what has happened in the last 4 years politically but there are states that haved pushed back ohio included. When you go out and open carry in a state that has made good progress and a reporter asks you what youre there for you better have a better answer than the one you just gave because that soundbite will be used on the daily show, the views, letterman, the bill mahr show and provide skit material for saturday night live.
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I don't oppose open carry and on a rare occasion, I will . I don't go out of my way to do so though, generally it's when I over dressed for a cool morning then it warms up quickly. Most of the time nobody notices, once someone asked if I was a cop. I said no and that was it, other than the fact she kept looking at me. What it does do is emphasize how unaware many people are of their surroundings.
With all of the pro-gun and fine tuning of carry laws in our state, I really don't see the point of an open carry "event" at the moment. Just look how many pro-gun bills have become law since Sandy Hook. Not that that couldn't change next week. I think many here on this might feel the same. |
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You're right. Our 2A rights haven't been infringed upon. We should all just stay home and not exercise our right to free speech and assembly. You didn't answer my question. I can't believe people who claim to be pro 2A, but are on the fence with some aspects of it. What are you talking about? I need an excuse to open carry? It's my f-ing right to do so. I don't need any excuse to exercise my God given rights. Gun owners need an excuse to assemble and show unity? I certainly think there's enough shit going down in society. Don't you? Of course it's your right to do so, and no one here has claimed anything contrary to that. I said what I'm guessing it looks like to many non-gun people. Although, the more you write on this forum, the more it looks like you want to walk around with your gun just to be provocative. That's not kind of attitude that helps a movement, like JohnnyMcEldoo opined earlier View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Iam guessing Akron demographics arent likely to ever be over the top in love with a bunch of dudes who love their guns just like any big city in the country. Maybe a demonstration will get people talking about it more but its easy to turn that scenario into a story of gun nuts who wont settle until guns are everywhere and in everyones hands. Just like many of us wouldnt want eccentric gay men in assless chaps dancing around public streets in celebration of gay rights. I can appreciate the goal but question its methodolgy. A silent voice is no voice at all. The conservative approach has failed our rights. We must be willing to demonstrate and protest, forcing our rights back into society where they belong. The liberal society and media have stripped many of them away because we sit back and don't fight enough to keep them. Again, like I've said, the problem is that conservatives are conservative. It's time to be wolves amongst the wolves. What are you demonstrating and protesting against? What rights are you trying to force back into society? Open carry protests have their place but this doesn't seem to be one of them...it looks like "a bunch of crazy gun people" trying to come up with an excuse to walk around with their guns. You're right. Our 2A rights haven't been infringed upon. We should all just stay home and not exercise our right to free speech and assembly. You didn't answer my question. I can't believe people who claim to be pro 2A, but are on the fence with some aspects of it. What are you talking about? I need an excuse to open carry? It's my f-ing right to do so. I don't need any excuse to exercise my God given rights. Gun owners need an excuse to assemble and show unity? I certainly think there's enough shit going down in society. Don't you? Of course it's your right to do so, and no one here has claimed anything contrary to that. I said what I'm guessing it looks like to many non-gun people. Although, the more you write on this forum, the more it looks like you want to walk around with your gun just to be provocative. That's not kind of attitude that helps a movement, like JohnnyMcEldoo opined earlier |
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There is such a thing as using your rights and then there is such a thing as abusing them. The idea that one is going to desensitize the majority of urban society by open carry through the center of town just because you can, is unlikely to have any positive effect on attitudes. If anything, it might well backfire and cause people to seek legislation banning open carry other than hunting. People don't react to what they don't know. Scare them, and they will seek to remove from their surroundings that which they fear.
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No one here is happy about what has happened in the last 4 years politically but there are states that haved pushed back ohio included. When you go out and open carry in a state that has made good progress and a reporter asks you what youre there for you better have a better answer than the one you just gave because that soundbite will be used on the daily show, the views, letterman, the bill mahr show and provide skit material for saturday night live. Know your shit and gather your thoughts before you go out and represent the gun community. View Quote Right. That's my reply to a reporter (sarcasm). Good grief people. |
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Really surprised by the opinions here. Nowhere did I promote open carrying all the time. This is just an organized event that seemed worth attending. I have never open carried myself and I understand the feelings it can cause.
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As soon as you mention Open Carry, all the "pro-gun" people go crazy...
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I don't oppose open carry and on a rare occasion, I will . I don't go out of my way to do so though, generally it's when I over dressed for a cool morning then it warms up quickly. Most of the time nobody notices, once someone asked if I was a cop. I said no and that was it, other than the fact she kept looking at me. What it does do is emphasize how unaware many people are of their surroundings. With all of the pro-gun and fine tuning of carry laws in our state, I really don't see the point of an open carry "event" at the moment. Just look how many pro-gun bills have become law since Sandy Hook. Not that that couldn't change next week. I think many here on this might feel the same. View Quote +1. If you go, don't expect to see a lot of bystanders... I mean other than the bums hang outside the Library and the girl in pajama pants begging for money |
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I don't oppose open carry and on a rare occasion, I will . I don't go out of my way to do so though, generally it's when I over dressed for a cool morning then it warms up quickly. Most of the time nobody notices, once someone asked if I was a cop. I said no and that was it, other than the fact she kept looking at me. What it does do is emphasize how unaware many people are of their surroundings. With all of the pro-gun and fine tuning of carry laws in our state, I really don't see the point of an open carry "event" at the moment. Just look how many pro-gun bills have become law since Sandy Hook. Not that that couldn't change next week. I think many here on this might feel the same. +1. If you go, don't expect to see a lot of bystanders... I mean other than the bums hang outside the Library and the girl in pajama pants begging for money If you feel like the current environment in this country is healthy for our 2A rights, then I think you're mistaken. How can a pro-gun person be against fellow pro-gun citizens who want to assemble, promote, and exercise gun rights? I guess there will always be the ones willing to do the dirty work to maintain the rights of those who just sit back and take no action. |
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If you feel like the current environment in this country is healthy for our 2A rights, then I think you're mistaken. How can a pro-gun person be against fellow pro-gun citizens who want to assemble, promote, and exercise gun rights? I guess there will always be the ones willing to do the dirty work to maintain the rights of those who just sit back and take no action. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't oppose open carry and on a rare occasion, I will . I don't go out of my way to do so though, generally it's when I over dressed for a cool morning then it warms up quickly. Most of the time nobody notices, once someone asked if I was a cop. I said no and that was it, other than the fact she kept looking at me. What it does do is emphasize how unaware many people are of their surroundings. With all of the pro-gun and fine tuning of carry laws in our state, I really don't see the point of an open carry "event" at the moment. Just look how many pro-gun bills have become law since Sandy Hook. Not that that couldn't change next week. I think many here on this might feel the same. +1. If you go, don't expect to see a lot of bystanders... I mean other than the bums hang outside the Library and the girl in pajama pants begging for money If you feel like the current environment in this country is healthy for our 2A rights, then I think you're mistaken. How can a pro-gun person be against fellow pro-gun citizens who want to assemble, promote, and exercise gun rights? I guess there will always be the ones willing to do the dirty work to maintain the rights of those who just sit back and take no action. First. Our state (this is the Ohio home town forum) has made great strides in 2nd amendment issues, I'm not sure a small local event is going to do anything for those in NY, CO, CT, MA or CA. Second. Where did I say I was opposed to you exercising your 1st or 2nd amendment right? In the OP you were looking for others to join you and in follow up posts you were wondering why you weren't getting much of a response. I'm just stating a fact, most gun owners are productive people and as such have limited time and because of that they direct their efforts in the most efficient direction. I'm not saying there won't be a point that a rally or event is needed, I just don't see the point when we are winning. Now, if you will excuse me, I have to work on a lesson plan for the 4-H Shooting Sports this weekend and a lesson for a home-school firearm safety class. |
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