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Posted: 3/27/2015 3:31:51 PM EDT
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Prayers sent.
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Posted: 3/27/2015 3:37:14 PM EDT
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What kind of country do we live in where you need special circumstances to use a Constitutionally recognized right?
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Posted: 3/27/2015 5:45:59 PM EDT
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Open carry on public lands is out the window.
Now, we're begging for an expensive permit, to exercise our "rights". How long till liberals discover that hunters use icky guns on public land? |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 7:39:56 PM EDT
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Already a thread on this, though not with as much info.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_11/579440_Peruta_goes_En_Banc.html |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 12:37:05 PM EDT
[#5]
and how is this good news?
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Posted: 3/28/2015 11:28:38 PM EDT
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Well , it's moving, not stalled. If we win here, it will be based on cases already heard and decided by SCOTUS, and things will move forward in most dilatory counties. Most counties can only afford to fight a few knowingly losing cases before they give up. Appealing to SCOTUS to rule against several of their rulings is not a good idea. So that should go for us also. If the State wins, we go to SCOTUS to have them rule again on what they've ruled before. So although it's taking time, it appears we are about to be at the end of the line, with apparently SCOTUS on our side.
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Posted: 3/29/2015 1:18:28 AM EDT
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the 9th circuit will almost certainly reverse itself. the supreme court is under no obligation whatsoever to accept review of whatever the result.
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Posted: 3/29/2015 6:44:54 AM EDT
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the 9th circuit will almost certainly reverse itself. the supreme court is under no obligation whatsoever to accept review of whatever the result. This is my thoughts as well. |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 8:51:22 PM EDT
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That's true they don't have to, but there are cases working up in several circuits based on a variety of SCOTUS, where the states are in disagreement with the rulings, and some like here where the first ruling agreed with SCOTUS, SCOTUS could clear a lot of these up by re-affirming and clarifying Heller etc that carrying is a right that shall not be infringed, that you can allow concealed or open or both but you can't deny all except within a very narrow framework.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 4:54:44 AM EDT
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OP calls this good news in title. I'm not so optimistic.
FBHO |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:47:32 PM EDT
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OP calls this good news in title. I'm not so optimistic. FBHO its very bad news. |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 5:57:17 PM EDT
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If the Peruta decision is upheld by the en banc panel, all of the states and territories in the Ninth Circuit would also have to review their license issuance policies, and revise them to conform to the Peruta decision. The Ninth Circuit includes Alaska and Arizona (“constitutional carry” states), Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon and Washington (“shall issue” states). It also includes Guam, which has already changed its policy in light of Peruta. And it includes California and Hawaii, the outliers.
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Posted: 3/31/2015 7:32:53 PM EDT
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If the Peruta decision is upheld by the en banc panel, all of the states and territories in the Ninth Circuit would also have to review their license issuance policies, and revise them to conform to the Peruta decision. The Ninth Circuit includes Alaska and Arizona (“constitutional carry” states), Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon and Washington (“shall issue” states). It also includes Guam, which has already changed its policy in light of Peruta. And it includes California and Hawaii, the outliers. Hawaii went down this road right behind us, but their path has been a bit different in Baker v. Kealoha. |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 12:58:52 PM EDT
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Good luck, guys!
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Posted: 4/16/2015 12:51:03 PM EDT
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What kind of country do we live in where you need special circumstances to use a Constitutionally recognized right?
Look who the SD county sheriff is and his history. He is a criminal. The denial of carry rights precedes him. I recall that a woman worried about getting raped could not get a permit in SD. If she had been raped, she could get a permit. Great mental midgets right there. Good luck folks! Anyone who thinks not joining the NRA, needs to be aware of their fight here. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 8:31:19 PM EDT
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Look who the SD county sheriff is and his history. He is a criminal. The denial of carry rights precedes him. I recall that a woman worried about getting raped could not get a permit in SD. If she had been raped, she could get a permit. Great mental midgets right there. Good luck folks! Anyone who thinks not joining the NRA, needs to be aware of their fight here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What kind of country do we live in where you need special circumstances to use a Constitutionally recognized right?
Look who the SD county sheriff is and his history. He is a criminal. The denial of carry rights precedes him. I recall that a woman worried about getting raped could not get a permit in SD. If she had been raped, she could get a permit. Great mental midgets right there. Good luck folks! Anyone who thinks not joining the NRA, needs to be aware of their fight here. He was the handpicked successor of the previous, pretty much pickled sheriff for life. And there will surely be another idiot selected when he retires or dies. |
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