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Posted: 11/20/2015 8:45:15 AM EDT
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DATE:November 19, 2015
TO:USF & NRA Member and Friends
FROM:Marion P. Hammer
USF Executive Director
NRA Past President


 

HB-169 Burden of Proof  by Rep. Dennis Baxley was heard in the House Criminal Justice Committee on Tuesday, November 17, 2015, at 9:00 AM.



In what can only be called a betrayal orchestrated by Republican Committee Chairman, Carlos Trujillo (R-Miami), HB-169 was KILLED on a 6-6 tie vote. It was a betrayal of law-abiding gun owners, the bill sponsor, and the process itself.



Another Republican, Charles Van Zant (R-Keystone Heights) totally sold out law-abiding gun owners by voting with Chairman Trujillo and the Democrats against your self-defense rights.




There were two amendments offered by antigun Democrat Dave Kerner that
effectively gutted the bill of penalties to punish prosecutors for
abusive behavior.



Chairman Trujillo and Rep. Charles Van Zant voted with Democrats
to pass the bad amendments and two Republican committee members got up
and left the room before the votes.  Those two are reported to have been
asked by Chairman Trujillo to "walk" (leave the room).



Why would a Chairman ask committee members to "walk" before a vote?




Simple, if they were not there to vote against the bad amendments, the
amendments would pass -- and they did.    And, if they are not there to
vote in favor of a bill, the bill will be killed.  And it was.



So with the help of 4 Republicans, the bad amendments offered by Democrats passed and the bill was killed.  



How they voted:



The votes on the two bad amendments were the same 6-5 for passage:



Voting FOR the Bad Amendments

Randolph Bracy (D)

Dave Kerner (D)

Sharon Pritchett (D)

Charles Van Zant (R)

Clovis Watson (D)

Carlos Trujillo (R)



Voting AGAINST the Amendments

Dennis Baxley (R)

Jay Fant (R)

Gayle Harrell (R)

Scott Plakon (R)

Ross Spano (R)



ABSENT DURING VOTES on AMENDMENTS

Chris Latvala (R)

Ray Pilon (R)



FINALLY, as an insult to the bill Sponsor and supporters of bill, after gutting the bill,

they KILLED THE BILL in a 6-6 tie vote -- a tie ALWAYS kills.



Voting AGAINST the BILL

Randolph Bracy (D)

Dave Kerner (D)

Sharon Pritchett (D)

Charles Van Zant (R)

Clovis Watson (D)

Carlos Trujillo (R)



Voting FOR the BILL

Dennis Baxley (R)

Jay Fant (R)

Gayle Harrell (R)

Ray Pilon (R)

Scott Plakon (R)

Ross Spano (R)



ABSENT FOR THE VOTE ON THE BILL

Chris Latvala (R)




It is important to recognize and remember the committee members who
were loyal to the Constitution and your right of self-defense -- as well
it is the betrayers.



A report on other bills heard this week will be forthcoming.

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If you're not familiar with the bill it would make the state prove you DIDN'T act in self defense and remove the burden from you that you DID act.
Link Posted: 11/20/2015 9:59:46 AM EDT
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Fucking Cock Suckers!
Link Posted: 11/20/2015 10:32:14 AM EDT
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Companion bill is still live in the Senate



 
Link Posted: 11/22/2015 8:04:10 AM EDT
[#3]
Glad I voted for Scott Plakon.

If you voted for one of the 4 republican traitors, make sure you let them know how much they suck.
Link Posted: 11/22/2015 8:26:07 AM EDT
[#4]
I've emailed those that voted in our favor to say thanks.  I emailed those that screwed us to let them know people are aware of their decision and a special,version of that for the republicans who abstained from the vote.  What kind of bullshit gamesmanship is that anyway?  The voices of the people they represent were snuffed out by a political game. Judas' screwing us.

Coming from NJ I know this crap can affect your rights and quickly.  I left that communist place for freedom so I'm especially disappointed to see this happen.
Link Posted: 11/22/2015 12:37:23 PM EDT
[#5]
What do you expect from Carlos Trujillo, a 32 year old New York born asshole who moved to the state of Florida in 1988, another Northern liberal at work.Just wait the best is yet to come from these NORTHERN people.
Link Posted: 11/22/2015 6:56:39 PM EDT
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Charlie VanZant........... LULZ! This fool stops by the fire station every now and then... the whole VanZant family is nothing but shitty career politicians.. Who's name carries no weight what so ever in Keystone or the southern end of clay county.....Hell, my family and I are better well known in town then these clowns!

His son is on the school board commission for clay county and very much hated!

Bunch of has beens!

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