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Posted: 7/22/2014 6:34:04 AM EDT
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Yes.........lots of trails nothing to technical.....just a warning though, you may leave with lots of trail kisses so wax her up good before hand.....if your not worried about pinstripes then disregard :)
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Posted: 7/22/2014 1:20:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes.........lots of trails nothing to technical.....just a warning though, you may leave with lots of trail kisses so wax her up good before hand.....if your not worried about pinstripes then disregard :) And definitely expect some new pin striping.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 2:11:14 PM EDT
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many of the OHV trails don't allow vehicles as large as a jeep. Check for a current trail use map at the ranger station on SR 40, east of Silver Springs.
That said, there are plenty of trails that you can lose your jeep on. FR 37, from SR 40 south to the bombing range, and a host of others that will challenge the best off road vehicles. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 4:06:30 PM EDT
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Our club is going out to Citrus this weekend if your close out that direction. You would be welcome to join us. Plenty of recovery gear if needed.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 5:28:43 PM EDT
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many of the OHV trails don't allow vehicles as large as a jeep. Check for a current trail use map at the ranger station on SR 40, east of Silver Springs. That said, there are plenty of trails that you can lose your jeep on. FR 37, from SR 40 south to the bombing range, and a host of others that will challenge the best off road vehicles. Shhhh.....no Jeep can get lost in there. Onf. Is a big place...you might ride 10 miles...to be fenders deep in a hole that's only 15 ft long.....and keep that in mind....when you look at the maps....314...445..19...40... you bury your ass....you got a good walk to a real road that has traffic. And you better have a cell carrier with coverage ....zero shit for att and others.... I'm glad I moved here :p Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 10:44:24 AM EDT
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Unless something changed, there isn't anything technical about the jeep trails, although you may not want to go alone unless you have a winch. The sugar sand can get deep in some areas. If you want something fun, hit Hardrock or A/B Pit (<---on second thought, don't hit those with a stocker). And definitely expect some new pin striping.
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Yes.........lots of trails nothing to technical.....just a warning though, you may leave with lots of trail kisses so wax her up good before hand.....if your not worried about pinstripes then disregard :) And definitely expect some new pin striping.
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Posted: 7/23/2014 11:02:14 AM EDT
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Yes.........lots of trails nothing to technical.....just a warning though, you may leave with lots of trail kisses so wax her up good before hand.....if your not worried about pinstripes then disregard :) And definitely expect some new pin striping.
I don't have a winch yet. Am I boned? Hi lift Straps Shovel One to two chunks of 4+4 or 2*10 as a base plate. Axe /saw A small come along helps but the hi lift /farm Jack will do wonders if hi centred on ruts.. Air compressor will help...the sugar sand sucks so air down a few psi. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 12:01:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hi lift Straps Shovel One to two chunks of 4+4 or 2*10 as a base plate. Axe /saw A small come along helps but the hi lift /farm Jack will do wonders if hi centred on ruts.. Air compressor will help...the sugar sand sucks so air down a few psi. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes.........lots of trails nothing to technical.....just a warning though, you may leave with lots of trail kisses so wax her up good before hand.....if your not worried about pinstripes then disregard :) And definitely expect some new pin striping. I don't have a winch yet. Am I boned? Hi lift Straps Shovel One to two chunks of 4+4 or 2*10 as a base plate. Axe /saw A small come along helps but the hi lift /farm Jack will do wonders if hi centred on ruts.. Air compressor will help...the sugar sand sucks so air down a few psi. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Just go ahead and join the Florida 4x4 facebook group. They like making fun of people that go out alone and need help to get out of their predicaments. Someone on there that is close to you may be along shortly to help.
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Posted: 7/23/2014 12:06:52 PM EDT
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I've been meaning to take my liberty off road...need a lift badly though
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:05:24 AM EDT
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Thanks to everyone for the help. Found a better alternative for me is to join the Orlando Jeep Club. They take people on rides in the ONF who have basically stock Jeeps like mine. Someone along in case I get stuck, and I'll be able to get more info on how best to upgrade.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 10:03:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks to everyone for the help. Found a better alternative for me is to join the Orlando Jeep Club. They take people on rides in the ONF who have basically stock Jeeps like mine. Someone along in case I get stuck, and I'll be able to get more info on how best to upgrade. Good group. You should be good in their hands.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 10:24:55 AM EDT
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Just go ahead and join the Florida 4x4 facebook group. They like making fun of people that go out alone and need help to get out of their predicaments. Someone on there that is close to you may be along shortly to help.
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Yes.........lots of trails nothing to technical.....just a warning though, you may leave with lots of trail kisses so wax her up good before hand.....if your not worried about pinstripes then disregard :) And definitely expect some new pin striping.
I don't have a winch yet. Am I boned? Hi lift Straps Shovel One to two chunks of 4+4 or 2*10 as a base plate. Axe /saw A small come along helps but the hi lift /farm Jack will do wonders if hi centred on ruts.. Air compressor will help...the sugar sand sucks so air down a few psi. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Just go ahead and join the Florida 4x4 facebook group. They like making fun of people that go out alone and need help to get out of their predicaments. Someone on there that is close to you may be along shortly to help.
Hey walking out on foot to sr42 to thumb down one of paisleys finest is one of my highlights of young 4+4 in LOL In all honestly unless you do /drive stupid onf is tame....now rewind to when I used to run out there....you'd get screwed on many trails....it was always fun after the safari triathlon went thru LOL Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 10:47:16 AM EDT
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Thanks to everyone for the help. Found a better alternative for me is to join the Orlando Jeep Club. They take people on rides in the ONF who have basically stock Jeeps like mine. Someone along in case I get stuck, and I'll be able to get more info on how best to upgrade. I've been wanting to join OJC...let me know how it is. |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 11:00:02 AM EDT
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Our club is going out to Citrus this weekend if your close out that direction. You would be welcome to join us. Plenty of recovery gear if needed. Wish I had seen this sooner,,im freed up and cleared up this weekend..Havent had the Blazer off roading in awhile. If anyone else is interested in going to Citrus, the trails are very nice, laid out in a Grid format, with the roads being well marked.. There are a few technical areas but 99;9% of the places can go with a stock vehicle, its just a nice "get away from the city" trail rides we do up there. I normally just run in 2wd with a locker in the rear. IF anyone wants to go, lemme know..Its pretty nice up there. No deep holes and you wont lose paint like Ocala. Also, there are a couple "caves" really giant sinkholes that you can explore and a couple nice campgrounds, one with full bathhouse and hook ups for RVs and then some primitive camping |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 11:01:20 AM EDT
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Thanks to everyone for the help. Found a better alternative for me is to join the Orlando Jeep Club. They take people on rides in the ONF who have basically stock Jeeps like mine. Someone along in case I get stuck, and I'll be able to get more info on how best to upgrade. I would never go alone , even with a winch (which I have)..My truck is a full size and normally takes 2 full size rigs to get me unstuck. lol. |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 11:26:58 AM EDT
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I am heading down to my Miami place for a couple of weeks, but plan to get back into the woods around the middle of August. Never rode those trails in Citrus county
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Posted: 7/26/2014 4:52:51 PM EDT
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Let's see a pic of the new Jeep .
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Posted: 7/27/2014 7:17:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wish I had seen this sooner,,im freed up and cleared up this weekend..Havent had the Blazer off roading in awhile. If anyone else is interested in going to Citrus, the trails are very nice, laid out in a Grid format, with the roads being well marked.. There are a few technical areas but 99;9% of the places can go with a stock vehicle, its just a nice "get away from the city" trail rides we do up there. I normally just run in 2wd with a locker in the rear. IF anyone wants to go, lemme know..Its pretty nice up there. No deep holes and you wont lose paint like Ocala. Also, there are a couple "caves" really giant sinkholes that you can explore and a couple nice campgrounds, one with full bathhouse and hook ups for RVs and then some primitive camping Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Our club is going out to Citrus this weekend if your close out that direction. You would be welcome to join us. Plenty of recovery gear if needed. Wish I had seen this sooner,,im freed up and cleared up this weekend..Havent had the Blazer off roading in awhile. If anyone else is interested in going to Citrus, the trails are very nice, laid out in a Grid format, with the roads being well marked.. There are a few technical areas but 99;9% of the places can go with a stock vehicle, its just a nice "get away from the city" trail rides we do up there. I normally just run in 2wd with a locker in the rear. IF anyone wants to go, lemme know..Its pretty nice up there. No deep holes and you wont lose paint like Ocala. Also, there are a couple "caves" really giant sinkholes that you can explore and a couple nice campgrounds, one with full bathhouse and hook ups for RVs and then some primitive camping Scouted nice spot for the clubs next ride, broke my 50 inch light bar on trees(really need to stop going down 4 wheeler trails), broke my exhaust, and now have my oil pan off to replace rear main seal... jeep life. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 3:11:26 AM EDT
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are we talking about Citrus WMA, in the Withlacoochee State forest?
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Posted: 7/28/2014 3:50:28 AM EDT
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are we talking about Citrus WMA, in the Withlacoochee State forest? Search Holder Mine / Mutual Mine...I cant tell you what roads its off of , i just know how to get there using the Brail method. lol. |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 7:44:25 AM EDT
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Let's see a pic of the new Jeep . 
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Posted: 8/11/2014 4:19:38 PM EDT
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Tagging this. I'm up for a meetup with trail riding.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:02:53 PM EDT
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will my truck fit in the trails?
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:09:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLoL...a dirt bike barely fits on some of those trails............so im gonna say , probably not.. Where I go in CItrus you would fit. |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:11:06 PM EDT
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LoL...a dirt bike barely fits on some of those trails............so im gonna say , probably not.. Where I go in CItrus you would fit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
LoL...a dirt bike barely fits on some of those trails............so im gonna say , probably not.. Where I go in CItrus you would fit. It has Detroit Lockers |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:17:03 PM EDT
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LoL...a dirt bike barely fits on some of those trails............so im gonna say , probably not.. Where I go in CItrus you would fit. It has Detroit Lockers The terrain is mild..its the size of the trail..very Very VERY Narrow.... |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:25:57 PM EDT
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I was waiting to hear about one of these last winter. I will most likely be
"Camping" up around Brooksville this winter would be cool if one of these citrus trips would coincide with one of my trips up that way. |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:32:42 PM EDT
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I was waiting to hear about one of these last winter. I will most likely be "Camping" up around Brooksville this winter would be cool if one of these citrus trips would coincide with one of my trips up that way. Lemme know when you going..We are already sorta kinda planning on hitting up Citrus once the weather gets a lil cooler and bug free.. |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:40:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lemme know when you going..We are already sorta kinda planning on hitting up Citrus once the weather gets a lil cooler and bug free.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was waiting to hear about one of these last winter. I will most likely be "Camping" up around Brooksville this winter would be cool if one of these citrus trips would coincide with one of my trips up that way. Lemme know when you going..We are already sorta kinda planning on hitting up Citrus once the weather gets a lil cooler and bug free.. I sure will. We have been to Silver Lake and Tillis hill. I think Silver Lake is haunted though ;) Are those close to the trail? |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:48:55 PM EDT
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I sure will. We have been to Silver Lake and Tillis hill. I think Silver Lake is haunted though ;) Are those close to the trail? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was waiting to hear about one of these last winter. I will most likely be "Camping" up around Brooksville this winter would be cool if one of these citrus trips would coincide with one of my trips up that way. Lemme know when you going..We are already sorta kinda planning on hitting up Citrus once the weather gets a lil cooler and bug free.. I sure will. We have been to Silver Lake and Tillis hill. I think Silver Lake is haunted though ;) Are those close to the trail? Tillis hill is part of the trail system,,its right in the middle of the trails we ride..Infact Tillis hill is near the "cave" we explore. This fall/winter we want to actually rent some horses from there and do some Ole Skool Trail riding. lol |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 6:02:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tillis hill is part of the trail system,,its right in the middle of the trails we ride..Infact Tillis hill is near the "cave" we explore. This fall/winter we want to actually rent some horses from there and do some Ole Skool Trail riding. lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was waiting to hear about one of these last winter. I will most likely be "Camping" up around Brooksville this winter would be cool if one of these citrus trips would coincide with one of my trips up that way. Lemme know when you going..We are already sorta kinda planning on hitting up Citrus once the weather gets a lil cooler and bug free.. I sure will. We have been to Silver Lake and Tillis hill. I think Silver Lake is haunted though ;) Are those close to the trail? Tillis hill is part of the trail system,,its right in the middle of the trails we ride..Infact Tillis hill is near the "cave" we explore. This fall/winter we want to actually rent some horses from there and do some Ole Skool Trail riding. lol That is cool. We are planning a few trips so I will post when we have a date set. |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 6:03:14 PM EDT
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let me know too.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 2:30:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: let me know too. Ditto
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Posted: 8/12/2014 5:18:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lemme know when you going..We are already sorta kinda planning on hitting up Citrus once the weather gets a lil cooler and bug free.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was waiting to hear about one of these last winter. I will most likely be "Camping" up around Brooksville this winter would be cool if one of these citrus trips would coincide with one of my trips up that way. Lemme know when you going..We are already sorta kinda planning on hitting up Citrus once the weather gets a lil cooler and bug free.. Tillis Hill is a good spot. We (family) have pulled the camper up there with the Jeep and went out at night riding around in the woods. |
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Posted: 8/12/2014 6:09:33 AM EDT
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Tillis Hill is a good spot. We (family) have pulled the camper up there with the Jeep and went out at night riding around in the woods. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/12/2014 9:55:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2014 11:36:39 AM EDT
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d-t, I am sure I can join y'all on a Citrus trail ride. My old 4Runner is still fit, and eager to get going. Mine next to your Blazer, back in 2011 <a href="http://s626.photobucket.com/user/Knocky/media/Knocky%202011%20second%20half/HalfMoonLake11511_zps9301ad7d.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/Knocky/Knocky%202011%20second%20half/HalfMoonLake11511_zps9301ad7d.jpg</a> Yea I remember that trip....had to squeeze thru some pretty tight spots,,took Bark off trees on both sides, lol. |
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Posted: 8/12/2014 1:42:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was waiting to hear about one of these last winter. I will most likely be "Camping" up around Brooksville this winter would be cool if one of these citrus trips would coincide with one of my trips up that way. Lemme know when you going..We are already sorta kinda planning on hitting up Citrus once the weather gets a lil cooler and bug free.. Tillis Hill is a good spot. We (family) have pulled the camper up there with the Jeep and went out at night riding around in the woods. Yea..I luv night rides..... http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/K5/DSC01414.jpg Rigid?
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Posted: 8/12/2014 2:42:49 PM EDT
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I was waiting to hear about one of these last winter. I will most likely be "Camping" up around Brooksville this winter would be cool if one of these citrus trips would coincide with one of my trips up that way. Lemme know when you going..We are already sorta kinda planning on hitting up Citrus once the weather gets a lil cooler and bug free.. Tillis Hill is a good spot. We (family) have pulled the camper up there with the Jeep and went out at night riding around in the woods. Yea..I luv night rides..... http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/die-tryin/K5/DSC01414.jpg Rigid? Here........... http://www.sidetrackedoffroad.com/predator-led-light-bars.html |
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Posted: 8/12/2014 6:09:17 PM EDT
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Pricing isn't bad. How long have you had it? How's it holding up?
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Posted: 8/13/2014 3:31:57 AM EDT
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Actually pretty good. I made my own custom mounts and its been up there for 6-8 months...I even took a full on highway speed hit from some kinda bird..Didnt even phase it. lol..
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:05:09 PM EDT
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I got reservations at Tillis Hill on Nov 7 and 8th. Would the 8th Work you guys for a ride at Citrus?
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:15:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got reservations at Tillis Hill on Nov 7 and 8th. Would the 8th Work you guys for a ride at Citrus? I should be able to make that work! You're camping there?
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:21:22 PM EDT
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I got reservations at Tillis Hill on Nov 7 and 8th. Would the 8th Work you guys for a ride at Citrus? Yea, ill pencil it in, im an hour away so its not a problem. I may see about camping up at Mutual/Holder mine area that weekend. what do you have reservations for exactly at Tilis? I thought they just had horseback riding and a couple primitive camp spots in that area. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:21:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I should be able to make that work! You're camping there? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I got reservations at Tillis Hill on Nov 7 and 8th. Would the 8th Work you guys for a ride at Citrus? I should be able to make that work! You're camping there? Cool Yes my My Wife and I in our Travel trailer and another Couple in their own TT. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:26:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea, ill pencil it in, im an hour away so its not a problem. I may see about camping up at Mutual/Holder mine area that weekend. what do you have reservations for exactly at Tilis? I thought they just had horseback riding and a couple primitive camp spots in that area. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I got reservations at Tillis Hill on Nov 7 and 8th. Would the 8th Work you guys for a ride at Citrus? Yea, ill pencil it in, im an hour away so its not a problem. I may see about camping up at Mutual/Holder mine area that weekend. what do you have reservations for exactly at Tilis? I thought they just had horseback riding and a couple primitive camp spots in that area. They have 28 sites with Water and Electricity and nice bathouse and dump Station. I have stayed there twice before. We sure need your expertise for this to work. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:34:16 PM EDT
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Ill help how and where I can..if you guys want to explore some of the small caves (giant sink holes) its close to the Tilis hills. There is one cave that is very tight to get into, you have to climb down into a small hole and it opens up into a nice big underground room. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:43:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: expertise in what? The area/trails? 4x4ing? Ill help how and where I can..if you guys want to explore some of the small caves (giant sink holes) its close to the Tilis hills. There is one cave that is very tight to get into, you have to climb down into a small hole and it opens up into a nice big underground room. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I got reservations at Tillis Hill on Nov 7 and 8th. Would the 8th Work you guys for a ride at Citrus? Yea, ill pencil it in, im an hour away so its not a problem. I may see about camping up at Mutual/Holder mine area that weekend. what do you have reservations for exactly at Tilis? I thought they just had horseback riding and a couple primitive camp spots in that area. They have 28 sites with Water and Electricity and nice bathouse and dump Station. I have stayed there twice before. We sure need your expertise for this to work. expertise in what? The area/trails? 4x4ing? Ill help how and where I can..if you guys want to explore some of the small caves (giant sink holes) its close to the Tilis hills. There is one cave that is very tight to get into, you have to climb down into a small hole and it opens up into a nice big underground room. Mostly the route and the Cave thing sounds cool. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:45:20 PM EDT
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I got reservations at Tillis Hill on Nov 7 and 8th. Would the 8th Work you guys for a ride at Citrus? Yea, ill pencil it in, im an hour away so its not a problem. I may see about camping up at Mutual/Holder mine area that weekend. what do you have reservations for exactly at Tilis? I thought they just had horseback riding and a couple primitive camp spots in that area. They have 28 sites with Water and Electricity and nice bathouse and dump Station. I have stayed there twice before. We sure need your expertise for this to work. expertise in what? The area/trails? 4x4ing?
Ill help how and where I can..if you guys want to explore some of the small caves (giant sink holes) its close to the Tilis hills. There is one cave that is very tight to get into, you have to climb down into a small hole and it opens up into a nice big underground room. Mostly the route and the Cave thing sounds cool. LoL..Ok..yea,,i have the map of area (grid) and there are places to stay away from (FWC dont like you to go certain places, although it will look like active trails). |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:55:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LoL..Ok..yea,,i have the map of area (grid) and there are places to stay away from (FWC dont like you to go certain places, although it will look like active trails). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: expertise in what? The area/trails? 4x4ing? Ill help how and where I can..if you guys want to explore some of the small caves (giant sink holes) its close to the Tilis hills. There is one cave that is very tight to get into, you have to climb down into a small hole and it opens up into a nice big underground room. Mostly the route and the Cave thing sounds cool. LoL..Ok..yea,,i have the map of area (grid) and there are places to stay away from (FWC dont like you to go certain places, although it will look like active trails). Good, I have done some hiking there and would not have a clue where we could go. |
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